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[quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

I disagree totally. Kid was 12/7 yesterday and did a lot of nice things out there. The guy that will get squeezed is Greg Williams because he isn’t comfortable bringing the ball up the floor nor shooting, two things Dunn can both do. Williams is very athletic but he’s a wing and more of a slasher and we have two guys in Heron and LJ who will get lions share of those minutes. Caraher right now how more you offer than williams with height and general comfort level on the floor. It’s a good problem to have when you have depth. I just think Williams will have the hardest time carving minutes because he hasn’t show to be a ball handler nor a scorer to this point yet.
 
Most folks seem to like the style of play and the players from post game quotes like to play CMA's style. This is what recruits need to see--the proof of style not talking about it. I am hopeful this will also help in recruiting
 
Watching from home , the Crowd appeared less than capacity by a good margin .. But, also watched DePaul game at their Wintrust Arena which seats 10,000 and change . If you want to see a sparse crowd tune in the Blue Demons home games . Maybe they had 4-5000 last night . Only a guess . DePaul would have to invite the Bulls to play Cleveland in a preliminary game to fill that Arena . By the way , DePaul got a lot of public funding from Rahm Emanuel to build that Arena . It’s a beauty but , they will not come close ever to filling it . It does make us fans wish for a new venue for the Team .. Is St John’s in AOC ‘s district ? If it is , maybe she and deBlasio could be influenced to build us a new facility? Although, they might be against anything approaching Religious institutions ?
 
Again didn't watch the game.

Did we have those lulls where we can't buy a bucket for 6-8 minutes?
 
[quote="Moose" post=362170]Again didn't watch the game.

Did we have those lulls where we can't buy a bucket for 6-8 minutes?[/quote]

Right after the second started half we had a bit of a lull on both ends for a few minutes where they outscored us by a bunch. Anderson was pissed and not having it. He called a timeout, get them to regroup and we immediately blew the doors off after that.
 
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[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=362169]Watching from home , the Crowd appeared less than capacity by a good margin .. But, also watched DePaul game at their Wintrust Arena which seats 10,000 and change . If you want to see a sparse crowd tune in the Blue Demons home games . Maybe they had 4-5000 last night . Only a guess . DePaul would have to invite the Bulls to play Cleveland in a preliminary game to fill that Arena . By the way , DePaul got a lot of public funding from Rahm Emanuel to build that Arena . It’s a beauty but , they will not come close ever to filling it . It does make us fans wish for a new venue for the Team .. Is St John’s in AOC ‘s district ? If it is , maybe she and deBlasio could be influenced to build us a new facility? Although, they might be against anything approaching Religious institutions ?[/quote]

Lol I doubt AOC would want any part of it partially because of what you said: religious affiliation. Can't see her wanting anything remotely involved with that.

I really do hope recruits take notice of this style now being executed. It was also very refreshing for CA not resembling Rucker park in terms of the style of play. While huge flashy dunks and passes are very exciting to watch, there's a big risk of throwing the ball away or getting it stolen...or missing the dunk and opponents get rebound. We just quietly laid it up most of the time ensuring the points the easy way. I love Ponds but he used to drive me nuts every once in a while dribbling behind the back and getting over his head a bit then losing the ball. Or when he took the ball to mid court at a snails pace wasting the clock. Totally opposite play now. Pass gets inbounded and immediately guys are looking to make plays. There were even a few times when the camera guy couldn't keep up. Good signs.
 
[quote="Logen" post=362162][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

What, no Earlington whipping this year? Dunn and Steere will add to the rotation not subtract from it.[/quote]

Earlington playing more under control. Reminded me almost of Carl Beckett.
That being said couple of those basket hanging hoops right out of schoolyard playbook and won't work against good comp.
Caraher just doesn't look like a good fit with style of play. I am sure he will get mins but mostly in specialty role.
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=362165][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

I disagree totally. Kid was 12/7 yesterday and did a lot of nice things out there. The guy that will get squeezed is Greg Williams because he isn’t comfortable bringing the ball up the floor nor shooting, two things Dunn can both do. Williams is very athletic but he’s a wing and more of a slasher and we have two guys in Heron and LJ who will get lions share of those minutes. Caraher right now how more you offer than williams with height and general comfort level on the floor. It’s a good problem to have when you have depth. I just think Williams will have the hardest time carving minutes because he hasn’t show to be a ball handler nor a scorer to this point yet.[/quote]

Long and athletic
Williams will play
And not a knock on Caraher just seems odd fit for way Anderson wants to play
 
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[quote="Brian W." post=362056][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=362041]What a pleasure to watch a real coach with an actual system in place. I wish he coached last years squad imagine what he could have done with that group! .[/quote]

Yeah, that epic losing streak from Interim head coach Kevin Clark was tough to watch. Especially after the Pittsburgh prostitute and extortion fiasco. Oh wait, silly me. Last year was 21 wins and an NCAA appearance. And two of the teams players are now off to the NBA.

You guys are vindictive. You literally make it difficult to remain a fan. Still pointlessly beating the Mullin situation into the ground.

If I were Mullin I would completely disassociate myself from the school, if he hasn't already.[/quote]

http://www.knbr.com/amp-events/november-14th-dinner-with-a-legend-chris-mullin/

He's having a great time being home, which deep down is what he wanted for the last 2.5 years of his tenure here. I doubt we'll ever see him around here again, which is a shame, but I'd make that trade any day if it means finally having a staff that knows how to act like a real staff. He'll likely never not be my all-time favorite player, but as a coach . . .
 
[quote="we are sju" post=362176][quote="Logen" post=362162][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

What, no Earlington whipping this year? Dunn and Steere will add to the rotation not subtract from it.[/quote]

Earlington playing more under control. Reminded me almost of Carl Beckett.
That being said couple of those basket hanging hoops right out of schoolyard playbook and won't work against good comp.
Caraher just doesn't look like a good fit with style of play. I am sure he will get mins but mostly in specialty role.[/quote]

Right!! Earlington played more under control than the cameos he got in garbage time last year. Sure he did. FYI, Caraher has no specialty, he just looks like a ballplayer.
 
I really loved what I saw. The defensive effort and ball movement from the team stood out more to me than any individual players stat line (as thrilled as I was with some of those stat lines) That's coaching. Assuming that it wasn't just opening night enthusiasm and Coach can keep that level of effort each game we will outperform everyone's expectations including our own. The question is will the same level of effort be there when Markus Howard or Myles Powell is raining 3's and we're on the cusp of getting blown out? I think these guys want to work. The sophomores clearly want to prove they deserve to be out there, the leadership roles suit LJ & Heron and Rutherford was the star of the game for me. I can't imagine he'll keep that level of production up but he looked like the smartest, most efficient player on the floor and that includes our stars. I think he knows this is his last go around and wants to show out on a bigger stage.

I get why some are down on Williams but at least to me he is very clearly not himself. He was out there lacking the things that made him exciting last year. He doesn't have his speed, bounce and generally high level of athleticism we saw a season ago. Last year he stood out because he was faster and jumped higher than everyone. I think that's going to come back. The guy we see now won't be here in another month. When he's healthy he'll thrive in this system. Not concerned.

The low attendance is disappointing but we just came off a season where support was fantastic and the team underperformed. Attendance usually reflects the quality of the team. If they keep playing well that ship will right itself.
Thrilled to have college basketball back in our lives. Happy season to all.
 
[quote="Logen" post=362179][quote="we are sju" post=362176][quote="Logen" post=362162][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

What, no Earlington whipping this year? Dunn and Steere will add to the rotation not subtract from it.[/quote]

Earlington playing more under control. Reminded me almost of Carl Beckett.
That being said couple of those basket hanging hoops right out of schoolyard playbook and won't work against good comp.
Caraher just doesn't look like a good fit with style of play. I am sure he will get mins but mostly in specialty role.[/quote]

Right!! Earlington played more under control than the cameos he got in garbage time last year. Sure he did. FYI, Caraher has no specialty, he just looks like a ballplayer.[/quote]

Shot every time touched ball last year. Some of his threes were comical what with the exit velo and all
Actually might lead NCAA in shots per minute for his career
Again joking about a kid shooting a brick is not any kind of crime that I am aware of.
Caraher looked a little uncomfortable to me and just mentioned his mins would get squeezed if Dunn and Steere come back.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=362178][quote="Brian W." post=362056][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=362041]What a pleasure to watch a real coach with an actual system in place. I wish he coached last years squad imagine what he could have done with that group! .[/quote]

Yeah, that epic losing streak from Interim head coach Kevin Clark was tough to watch. Especially after the Pittsburgh prostitute and extortion fiasco. Oh wait, silly me. Last year was 21 wins and an NCAA appearance. And two of the teams players are now off to the NBA.

You guys are vindictive. You literally make it difficult to remain a fan. Still pointlessly beating the Mullin situation into the ground.

If I were Mullin I would completely disassociate myself from the school, if he hasn't already.[/quote]

http://www.knbr.com/amp-events/november-14th-dinner-with-a-legend-chris-mullin/

He's having a great time being home, which deep down is what he wanted for the last 2.5 years of his tenure here. I doubt we'll ever see him around here again, which is a shame, but I'd make that trade any day if it means finally having a staff that knows how to act like a real staff. He'll likely never not be my all-time favorite player, but as a coach . . .[/quote]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=362182][quote="L J S A" post=362178][quote="Brian W." post=362056][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=362041]What a pleasure to watch a real coach with an actual system in place. I wish he coached last years squad imagine what he could have done with that group! .[/quote]

Yeah, that epic losing streak from Interim head coach Kevin Clark was tough to watch. Especially after the Pittsburgh prostitute and extortion fiasco. Oh wait, silly me. Last year was 21 wins and an NCAA appearance. And two of the teams players are now off to the NBA.

You guys are vindictive. You literally make it difficult to remain a fan. Still pointlessly beating the Mullin situation into the ground.

If I were Mullin I would completely disassociate myself from the school, if he hasn't already.[/quote]

http://www.knbr.com/amp-events/november-14th-dinner-with-a-legend-chris-mullin/

He's having a great time being home, which deep down is what he wanted for the last 2.5 years of his tenure here. I doubt we'll ever see him around here again, which is a shame, but I'd make that trade any day if it means finally having a staff that knows how to act like a real staff. He'll likely never not be my all-time favorite player, but as a coach . . .[/quote]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.[/quote]

And that differs from what fan base that doesn't bash a coach/manager????? There are none.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=362182]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.[/quote]

Was Mullin a good coach? Did he hit the recruiting trail hard? I'm sure we both had the same Mullin poster in our room as kids, but his coaching career shouldn't be above criticism.
 
[quote="Moose" post=362183][quote="we are sju" post=362182][quote="L J S A" post=362178][quote="Brian W." post=362056][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=362041]What a pleasure to watch a real coach with an actual system in place. I wish he coached last years squad imagine what he could have done with that group! .[/quote]

Yeah, that epic losing streak from Interim head coach Kevin Clark was tough to watch. Especially after the Pittsburgh prostitute and extortion fiasco. Oh wait, silly me. Last year was 21 wins and an NCAA appearance. And two of the teams players are now off to the NBA.

You guys are vindictive. You literally make it difficult to remain a fan. Still pointlessly beating the Mullin situation into the ground.

If I were Mullin I would completely disassociate myself from the school, if he hasn't already.[/quote]

http://www.knbr.com/amp-events/november-14th-dinner-with-a-legend-chris-mullin/

He's having a great time being home, which deep down is what he wanted for the last 2.5 years of his tenure here. I doubt we'll ever see him around here again, which is a shame, but I'd make that trade any day if it means finally having a staff that knows how to act like a real staff. He'll likely never not be my all-time favorite player, but as a coach . . .[/quote]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.[/quote]

And that differs from what fan base that doesn't bash a coach/manager????? There are none.[/quote]

It's like asking a food critic why they're so critical of food. Comes with the territory. Part of being a fan is wanting your team to win and when that rarely happens, you will be criticized and rightfully so. Mullin had Sweet 16 level talent last year. I spoke with a former player about him coaching. Much of what he was criticized for or was speculated on has been confirmed by actual players.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=362181][quote="Logen" post=362179][quote="we are sju" post=362176][quote="Logen" post=362162][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

What, no Earlington whipping this year? Dunn and Steere will add to the rotation not subtract from it.[/quote]

Earlington playing more under control. Reminded me almost of Carl Beckett.
That being said couple of those basket hanging hoops right out of schoolyard playbook and won't work against good comp.
Caraher just doesn't look like a good fit with style of play. I am sure he will get mins but mostly in specialty role.[/quote]

Right!! Earlington played more under control than the cameos he got in garbage time last year. Sure he did. FYI, Caraher has no specialty, he just looks like a ballplayer.[/quote]

Shot every time touched ball last year. Some of his threes were comical what with the exit velo and all
Actually might lead NCAA in shots per minute for his career
Again joking about a kid shooting a brick is not any kind of crime that I am aware of.
Caraher looked a little uncomfortable to me and just mentioned his mins would get squeezed if Dunn and Steere come back.[/quote]

Making a career out of joking about a kid is not a crime but it puts you pretty high on my list of classless posters. So if busting Earlington isn’t a crime, neither is my answering your “expert” posts. Full disclosure, I know him, know his family, and you don’t have a clue about the hard work he put in after he decided to give up football, a very tough decision in its own right.
As for Caraher, if you knew anything about sports, being uncomfortable could very well be a natural part of sitting out a year. That’s why the intelligent thing to do when evaluating players is wait until you have a reasonable track record before you put your foot in your mouth.
 
[quote="Logen" post=362187][quote="we are sju" post=362181][quote="Logen" post=362179][quote="we are sju" post=362176][quote="Logen" post=362162][quote="we are sju" post=362153][quote="redmen4life" post=362151]- Rutherford played under control. Love it.
- David C, while he didn't hit shots, loved that he mixed it up down low. Fought for rebounds.
- Champaignie will be a good one for us. Has the body. The skills.
- Williams is really rusty.
- Roberts, while his improvement is obvious, i don't know that it's remarkably improved for him to be a factor in league play. Hope I'm wrong.
- the ball movement was excellent. they pushed and ran only when appropriate. loved the mix of defenses.
- tried to pay attention to CMA during time outs and in-game, he looked to get into everyone, especially, Heron, Wiliams, and David specifically. I love it.
- hate comparing to previous staff who believed in not giving too much feedback during the games, but seeing CMA have full control was nice to see. I also saw him early in the game tell the coaches to sit down, as a couple were standing shouting direction to the team...

overall very good.[/quote]

If Dunn and Steere both become eligible I don't see many minutes for Caraher[/quote]

What, no Earlington whipping this year? Dunn and Steere will add to the rotation not subtract from it.[/quote]

Earlington playing more under control. Reminded me almost of Carl Beckett.
That being said couple of those basket hanging hoops right out of schoolyard playbook and won't work against good comp.
Caraher just doesn't look like a good fit with style of play. I am sure he will get mins but mostly in specialty role.[/quote]

Right!! Earlington played more under control than the cameos he got in garbage time last year. Sure he did. FYI, Caraher has no specialty, he just looks like a ballplayer.[/quote]

Shot every time touched ball last year. Some of his threes were comical what with the exit velo and all
Actually might lead NCAA in shots per minute for his career
Again joking about a kid shooting a brick is not any kind of crime that I am aware of.
Caraher looked a little uncomfortable to me and just mentioned his mins would get squeezed if Dunn and Steere come back.[/quote]

Making a career out of joking about a kid is not a crime but it puts you pretty high on my list of classless posters. So if busting Earlington isn’t a crime, neither is my answering your “expert” posts. Full disclosure, I know him, know his family, and you don’t have a clue about the hard work he put in after he decided to give up football, a very tough decision in its own right.
As for Caraher, if you knew anything about sports, being uncomfortable could very well be a natural part of sitting out a year. That’s why the intelligent thing to do when evaluating players is wait until you have a reasonable track record before you put your foot in your mouth.[/quote]

If I am high on that list you don't read too many people's posts
Ok John Wooden thanks for lesson on sports
And again if there were a baseball forum when I was in college and I did something on the field that looked ridiculous I would have been fine with people joking about it
 
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[quote="L J S A" post=362184][quote="we are sju" post=362182]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.[/quote]

Was Mullin a good coach? Did he hit the recruiting trail hard? I'm sure we both had the same Mullin poster in our room as kids, but his coaching career shouldn't be above criticism.[/quote]
No
But he is gone now people should let it go. Only former coach that should repeatedly be bashed is Norm lol
 
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=362185][quote="Moose" post=362183][quote="we are sju" post=362182][quote="L J S A" post=362178][quote="Brian W." post=362056][quote="SJU2000alum15" post=362041]What a pleasure to watch a real coach with an actual system in place. I wish he coached last years squad imagine what he could have done with that group! .[/quote]

Yeah, that epic losing streak from Interim head coach Kevin Clark was tough to watch. Especially after the Pittsburgh prostitute and extortion fiasco. Oh wait, silly me. Last year was 21 wins and an NCAA appearance. And two of the teams players are now off to the NBA.

You guys are vindictive. You literally make it difficult to remain a fan. Still pointlessly beating the Mullin situation into the ground.

If I were Mullin I would completely disassociate myself from the school, if he hasn't already.[/quote]

http://www.knbr.com/amp-events/november-14th-dinner-with-a-legend-chris-mullin/

He's having a great time being home, which deep down is what he wanted for the last 2.5 years of his tenure here. I doubt we'll ever see him around here again, which is a shame, but I'd make that trade any day if it means finally having a staff that knows how to act like a real staff. He'll likely never not be my all-time favorite player, but as a coach . . .[/quote]

Have to admit this fan base loves killing former coaches almost as much as it enjoys turning on current ones.
I bet you there is Anderson bashing at some point this year.[/quote]

And that differs from what fan base that doesn't bash a coach/manager????? There are none.[/quote]

It's like asking a food critic why they're so critical of food. Comes with the territory. Part of being a fan is wanting your team to win and when that rarely happens, you will be criticized and rightfully so. Mullin had Sweet 16 level talent last year. I spoke with a former player about him coaching. Much of what he was criticized for or was speculated on has been confirmed by actual players.[/quote]

No, it's like asking a food critic why he burned down the restaurant and runs a formerly revered chef out of the city. You all had your fun last year. It's a cycle that gets repeated every 5 years, regardless of perspective. This program was DEAD in 2003. But the past 10 years have had 3 NCAA's, 3 NIT's and a good deal of NBA level talent on the roster.

Can't believe I'm the only person on an SJU fan forum that has to defend Chris Mullin, or that anyone has to point out the ritualistic coach shaming that this fan base engages in every few years. Again, were absolutely over in 2003.
 
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