[quote="Beast of the East" post=316572][quote="redmanwest" post=316571]With all due respect OSR, "good riddance"? Chris is the best player ever to wear the uniform. He took this job to try to bring us back to relevancy, and he has made the team and talent better each year he's been here. YES, there are flaws and lapses in the team, roster, coaching, but I think he is due more respect than "good riddance".
His coaching tenure may or may not turn out to be a success. The biggest reason I was hesitant for him to take the job was that it could spoil his legacy among our fickle alums. But, I appreciate the fact that he took on the job to try to return our program (the one HE was largely responsible for making a top program for a time) to competitiveness.
If he leaves, he still deserves the respect that he earned. I bet that if we don't make the tourney this year, he will "retire" knowing that it is time to let someone else try.
I just don't get the disdain and disrespect shown a man who though inexperienced and flawed as a coach is owed some modicum of respect for all he's meant to the program, and all the pleasure he gave to us old guys who saw him play.
Just my 2 cents.
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=316563][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=316553][quote="Class of 72"
Cragg has to demand staff change, if no ncaa then it's 4 years of nothing, they gotta do something.
Every year of this is crap.
If Chris walks then good riddance.[/quote][/quote]
I would say that about 75% of fans I encounter are aware of this site. Most don't post here, by far, and most don't pay much attention. The main reason? The constant negativity and stupidity. Two games ago, most of the big detractors were so anxious to proclaim BE coach of the year, BE season title, and to reassert their love for everything St. John's. Granted that don't most have season tix, don't come to games at CA (or MSG for that matter). With every single loss, they cannot contain themselves to point out deficiencies of the staff, depth, and talent of the team. Again. And again. And again. And again.
Honestly I don't give a shit about how warm CA gets when filled, I'll take it filled any day, and honestly, it is no where near as hot as people say. I dunno, maybe some guys are going through the hot flashes stage of their life.
It's tiresome to hear about the lack of seatbacks. Everyone would like seatbacks, yes. But if you think it makes sense to make that one of your top issues when you spoke to Cragg 1 x, yes he will treat you with respect, but it's pretty idiotic. It isn't a cost issue, it's a capacity issue. Seatbacks reduce # of available seats considerably, and if you put seatbacks in the lower bowl, a substantial number of fans will be bumped to the upper tiers. And if you put seatbacks everywhere, I don't know the exact number, but I bet you lose somewhere around 1000 seats. IF you are 70, I sympathize. If you are 30, hit the gym, or see a chiropractor. The loudest bitcher about this doesn't even have season tix, yet drones on and on about it. If we blow out CA to enlarge capacity, I'm pretty certain that most if not all areas will have seats. Then again, the big issue other than real estate to expand, is that Finneran went to Villanova and so did his dollars to help finance it.
I just don't get the vitriol against Mullin at all. I would say he is pretty comfortable for life, and could have stayed in the NBA and cashed a paycheck in a better climate locale. But instead he comes to this dump of a program, with a goal to restore it. If you haven't noticed, guys have NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER flooded here. We'd snare a top HS prospect, a Mullin, a George Johnson, a Ron Artest, Felipe Lopez, or Zendon, or Wayne McKoy, and then backfill with a horde of second tier guys and transfers. We never EVER had a recruiting machine. Don't talk about the 85 team, please. Mullin was 3x BE player of the year, Berry was Juco, Wennington not a prized recruit. Mark Jackson was a distant 3rd best point guard in the city, after Kenny Smith and Pearl, both of whom we didn't even get a sniff at.
Before then, it was Reggie Carter coming home, Berard Rencher coming home, Ed Searcy coming home, even Curtis Redding. A horde over time. So stop with this dumb transfer game horseshit. We've ALWAYS relied heavily on transfers, and almost always benfitted from NYC city kids who left and weren't happy elsewhere - maybe more than any team in the country because of our geographical location.
If you guys think that supporting this team means that you give your support only when we win, that's not support. Do you heap praise on your kids when they get an A in science, only to tell them how much they suck when they get a D in math? Well, maybe you do. I've heard good guys, a neighbor for one, screaming at his son simply because the kid wasn't so bright and his 4th grade report card blew.
You want to support the team, I mean really? Then shoot Cragg, or Chris, or Greg, or Matt an email or twitter message after a tough loss, or an injury or setback. They'd likely really appreciate it, even if they don't respond or "like" your comment. You know what? You'll feel better about it too. Maybe.
I'm guessing most of us cou;dn't write a $22 million check to renovate CA, or a $4 million check to hire a guy like Hurley (who is taking his share of idiocy from some UCONN "fans"). But even a $50, $100, or $500 donation (your tix aren't a donation) helps improve the program. That's the way we can be part of the solution, instead of propagating negativity that is by all means part of the problem.[/quote]
I don't know Beast, at the DePaul game I thought it was stifling, even the other photographers on the floor were asking if they had the heat turned on LOL. :lol:
