Possible Coaching Candidates

SJUWillRockNYC said:
RU choked a 5-pnt lead with :27 to go.
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If Iona comes back from 5 points down to beat UCONN, you and others would be posting about how Pitino's team kept their composure in the face of adversity.

Like most on this board, I understand that having Pitino as our coach would kick start our program back to respectability and hopefully more. This doesn't preclude us from recognizing what Speedy and Hofstra did last night in a hostile environment.
 
billthetruth said:
Other than Fran F, we have failed miserably on the success scale with every coach hire sine Louie retired.
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During the 5 full seasons at StJ’s Jarvis‘ teams won 20 games 4 of his 5 seasons, qualified for the NCAA Tournament 3 times, won the first game in the NCAA Tournament 2 times, reached the Elite 8 once, and won the NIT.

Jarvis succeeded as a good coach at StJohn’s but reportedly departed over relations with Harrington.
 
otis said:
During the 5 full seasons at StJ’s Jarvis‘ teams won 20 games 4 of his 5 seasons, qualified for the NCAA Tournament 3 times, won the first game in the NCAA Tournament 2 times, reached the Elite 8 once, and won the NIT.

Jarvis succeeded as a good coach at StJohn’s but reportedly departed over relations with Harrington.
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Jarvis "departed" because he was a sleaze.
 
I guess I have become a moral relativist. When RP was at KY and Louisville, I didn't like him. When all the crap at Louisville came out I really didn't like the stripper/hooker sleeze. I know, I know, this stuff probably goes on at Alabama, et al. with football recruits all the time and likely all over the country with all types of recruits.

But, now I like him (if he comes), call me a hypocrite. The Italian restaurant thing and the woman with the blackmail/$ for medical procedure thing were pretty hard to stomach and were away from the BB part. His family is intact so they worked through that.

But as a Catholic University, like George Carlin said about Catholicism "It's the greatest religion ever. You can do whatever you want, go to confession, get absolved, and you're totally cleared!"

I've listened to Pitino talk about losing his brother-in-law on 9/11 in the Towers and was moved by his genuine sadness over that tragic day for his brother-in-law's wife and family and his wife and family and for all other families affected by it. So the guy has a heart.

Plus, I heard or read (maybe on this thread,) that Looie gave his Blessing, being a huge Looie fan, that is good enough for me --- a Blessing from Luigi.
 
SJU85 said:
Just because you are a bad head coach doesn’t mean you’re a bad assistant. Some folks just don’t make that jump.
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And if you're a good HC, then you wouldn't be available to be an assistant. So either your team has assistants who have yet to be a HC at the same level, or those who have been unsuccessful as a HC and go back to being assistants. In rare instances, you have guys like Keady, Martelli and Larry Brown who, later on in life, choose to be assistants in spite of being a successful HC
 
I know some of you guys are worried about the risk factor with Pitino, and yes there are risk factors with every coaching hire. But when making any hire, an employer must weigh risk against reward. And the fact of the matter is that there is no other possible candidate on this planet who even comes close to Pitino when it comes to low risk/high reward. No one even in the same universe. I don't personally care for Pitino the person. But then again, I never much cared for Calapari, Calhoun and a bunch of other great coaches as people. The difference between me and a lot of people is that I don't give a damn what I think about our coach as a person. I only give a damn about what he can do for our program and for our school.
 
billthetruth said:
Our future is in the MAAC Conference if we F this up. We are seen as a dying program nationally and an annual Big East bottom feeder.
Other than Fran F, we have failed miserably on the success scale with every coach hire sine Louie retired.

This is not the time for a wing-and-a-pray young-gun, inexperienced hire
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MainMan said:
I hope not.
Because Rodgers is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Not possible if the JETS DONT HIRE RODGERS NOW, they will be dropped to the XFL. Don’t you know MainMan, it’s the ONLY way!
 
monte said:
I know some of you guys are worried about the risk factor with Pitino, and yes there are risk factors with every coaching hire. But when making any hire, an employer must weigh risk against reward. And the fact of the matter is that there is no other possible candidate on this planet who even comes close to Pitino when it comes to low risk/high reward. No one even in the same universe. I don't personally care for Pitino the person. But then again, I never much cared for Calapari, Calhoun and a bunch of other great coaches as people. The difference between me and a lot of people is that I don't give a damn what I think about our coach as a person. I only give a damn about what he can do for our program and for our school.
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You say No one is even in the same universe referring to Pitino. I say Noone is. ;)
 
Moose said:
Well judging by Pitino’s track record. And ignoring his 6 game stint as HC of Hawaii to start his career. Every stop since he’s won at a minimum of 64% clip. No coach at SJU has won at a clip that high since Louie. So unless we end up ruining that streak that’s the low water mark based on his career.
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Hard to ignore Hawaii, some how he brought sanctions to Hawaii. Didn’t think the NCAA bother to look at schools like that, I guess Pitino didn’t either.
 
I have been one of the more outwardly Pitino fanboys, and I thought I would give my reasons why this is a must hire for SJU.

Since Carnesecca retired, I cannot think of any other schools that have gone through as many coaching changes as this one. It is an average of one every four years. And not because of their successful tenure which was noticed by the Big 12 or Big 10 either.

A toxic combination of wrong hire, wrong time, wrong administration, and the wrong side of luck has made SJU, the lone basketball program residing in NYC in a major conference, to surpass laughingstock into an afterthought.

There is no need to go through each coach. We know what they did and didn’t do that led to their demise. We also know past administrations overseeing its flagship program failed miserably as well.

While we may as well repeat this on loop, but the program is at critical mass. How many knockdowns can it take before never getting back up?

Some are worried Pitino will leave the program mired in sanctions.

First of all, with the advent of the NIL, especially now that the universities have control of where the money goes, the NCAA has effectively ended “illegal payouts”.

Secondly, Pitino has done everything right at Iona.

Thirdly, Pitino will have eyes around him in the local and national media who will suddenly find following SJU worthwhile, and many would love to uncover cheating.

Lastly you can add that SJU has missed so many NCAA tournaments, it may as well have been on probation. At least that would have been an excuse for the ineptitude.

The day Pitino sets foot on campus, he is immediately the face of SJU and NYC college basketball. His picture alone in front of MSG accompanied by “Welcome Home Coach” will add adrenaline around here we haven’t see in a long time.

Pitino’s hall of fame credentials are known. He has taken three different schools to the final four, so why not one more big run? Why not us?

This is not to knock on the other candidates. They all appear solid. This is just to hammer home the disparity between Pitino and the rest of the pack.

Of course Pitino does not guarantee glory and a foundation for future and sustained success. No one does. Even machines like Wright built at Villanova has already shown cracks in its foundation.

SJU cannot let this opportunity — which is being placed in its hands — to hire one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time go. Pitino is by far the closest this program has ever had to a guarantee.
 
otis said:
During the 5 full seasons at StJ’s Jarvis‘ teams won 20 games 4 of his 5 seasons, qualified for the NCAA Tournament 3 times, won the first game in the NCAA Tournament 2 times, reached the Elite 8 once, and won the NIT.

Jarvis succeeded as a good coach at StJohn’s but reportedly departed over relations with Harrington.
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That is a bit of a whitewash.

His last 20 win season actually doesn't count since the NIT and wins from that season were vacated.

And his last season they were off to a 2-4 start and everyone saw where that was headed (last place) and his recruiting was basically next to nothing. He was fired because the program was clearly going south.
 
kranmars said:
I have been one of the more outwardly Pitino fanboys, and I thought I would give my reasons why this is a must hire for SJU.

Since Carnesecca retired, I cannot think of any other schools that have gone through as many coaching changes as this one. It is an average of one every four years. And not because of their successful tenure which was noticed by the Big 12 or Big 10 either.

A toxic combination of wrong hire, wrong time, wrong administration, and the wrong side of luck has made SJU, the lone basketball program residing in NYC in a major conference, to surpass laughingstock into an afterthought.

There is no need to go through each coach. We know what they did and didn’t do that led to their demise. We also know past administrations overseeing its flagship program failed miserably as well.

While we may as well repeat this on loop, but the program is at critical mass. How many knockdowns can it take before never getting back up?

Some are worried Pitino will leave the program mired in sanctions.

First of all, with the advent of the NIL, especially now that the universities have control of where the money goes, the NCAA has effectively ended “illegal payouts”.

Secondly, Pitino has done everything right at Iona.

Thirdly, Pitino will have eyes around him in the local and national media who will suddenly find following SJU worthwhile, and many would love to uncover cheating.

Lastly you can add that SJU has missed so many NCAA tournaments, it may as well have been on probation. At least that would have been an excuse for the ineptitude.

The day Pitino sets foot on campus, he is immediately the face of SJU and NYC college basketball. His picture alone in front of MSG accompanied by “Welcome Home Coach” will add adrenaline around here we haven’t see in a long time.

Pitino’s hall of fame credentials are known. He has taken three different schools to the final four, so why not one more big run? Why not us?

This is not to knock on the other candidates. They all appear solid. This is just to hammer home the disparity between Pitino and the rest of the pack.

Of course Pitino does not guarantee glory and a foundation for future and sustained success. No one does. Even machines like Wright built at Villanova has already shown cracks in its foundation.

SJU cannot let this opportunity — which is being placed in its hands — to hire one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time go. Pitino is by far the closest this program has ever had to a guarantee.
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All of the above.
 
Born in '88. Was too young to remember/appreciate the late 90's teams with Postell, Barkley, Artest, etc. This century has been abominable. I wasn't around in the 80's. As a lifelong fan of this program, I have no proud moments or fond memories to hold onto. It's Pitino or bust for me at this point. Winning above all else.
 
fordham96 said:
That is a bit of a whitewash.

His last 20 win season actually doesn't count since the NIT and wins from that season were vacated.

And his last season they were off to a 2-4 start and everyone saw where that was headed (last place) and his recruiting was basically next to nothing. He was fired because the program was clearly going south.
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Not to mention his elite 8 run was done with Fran's players (not that he didn't do a good coaching job that season).
 
mattc said:
Born in '88. Was too young to remember/appreciate the late 90's teams with Postell, Barkley, Artest, etc. This century has been abominable. I wasn't around in the 80's. As a lifelong fan of this program, I have no proud moments or fond memories to hold onto. It's Pitino or bust for me at this point. Winning above all else.
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35 years old now this year. Jesus :)
 
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