It's the SJU way, doing the same crap over and over and over.Find the money, dare to be bold!!!! Otherwise we will wind up in the same predicament we are in and have been in forever.
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
Whose choice? The BOT will have to approve a coaching change and the new coach, so it's not really our choice. These posts about forcing change are a little nonsensical. It's ok to state your opinion without suggesting we resort to the French revolution.It's the SJU way, doing the same crap over and over and over.
How could any true diehard SJU fan say it's ok, no matter what I'll never stop watching/going to games.
Then you really don't want change, the BOT will carnesecca area packed and they'll point and say see, they're still coming to the games.
If you really want change then you gotta force change or it won't happen.
Your choice.
After one year, with Neptune's kids? I hope we can do better.Is Urgo worth a look ?
Fordham sets sights on first NCAA Tournament in more than 30 years
Coach Keith Urgo has the Fordham Rams on the cusp of making a run toward the NCAA Tournament.nypost.com
This idea that a few fans on a message board can organize a city-wide boycott by over 10 million people are bold.Whose choice? The BOT will have to approve a coaching change and the new coach, so it's not really our choice. These posts about forcing change are a little nonsensical. It's ok to state your opinion without suggesting we resort to the French revolution.
If they have substantial advantages why did the coach before Langel go 165-212 over 13 years
While it is okay to state an opinion, some of them are equally nonsensical.Whose choice? The BOT will have to approve a coaching change and the new coach, so it's not really our choice. These posts about forcing change are a little nonsensical. It's ok to state your opinion without suggesting we resort to the French revolution.
Thank you for a well thought out response. It certainly sheds some light on him and his situation. He would go from the best facilities in his conference to close to the worst at SJU.The short answer is “athletic scholarships” which St. Leigel is able to offer but were not available to his 2 immediate predecessors to offer, and still cannot be offered by his Ivy academic competitors
St. Leigel’s 2 immediate predecessors Bruen (a very good guy) was unable to provide any athletic scholarships under Patriot rules, and his immediate predecessor Emmett Davis was prohibited from providing any athletic scholarships during a portion of his coaching career at Colgate, and only a restricted number the later part of his time in Hamilton, NY.
Leigel has been able to offer scholarships for his entire time at Colgate.
The high academic recruits which Leigel competes with are frequently looking at competing offers from Ivy schools.
The Ivies, as you know do not give athletic scholarships. Leigel can offer the free ride to recruit from an upper or high income family which is not available from the Ivy. (Don’t believe the urban legends about Ivy athletes getting under the table payments.).
A second advantage which Leigel has at Colgate over his Patriot competition is that Colgate is “all in” on athletics and now funds it’s athletics at higher levels than it’s League competitors. The past 2 Administrations has adopted athletics as a type of identity for the college. Take a look at the Colgate website an you will see the full range of sports it offers that other Patriot schools do not offer.
Not all Patriot schools are as committed to athletics as Colgate is or has been. Even after the Patriot League allowed athletic scholarships many of the Ivy wannabes that comprise the Patriot were slow to award athletic scholarships at all, much lass in the full quantity allowed by the NCAA. An example to this is that Bucknell did not award mens basketball scholarships until 2013.
So yes, St. Leigel has compiled a very good record at Colgate but having seen his program I believe he has certain institutional advantages at Colgate that will not carry over to a less academic controlled school. Many of the posters on this site who have fallen in love with his solid win- loss record are likely not familiar with the Colgate athletics and the Patriot League.
I agrée 1000% but as long as forum rules are respected it is ok to post a nonsensical opinion.While it is okay to state an opinion, some of them are equally nonsensical.
Doubt that those 10 million people are concerned about St. J's basketball. Maybe 10's of hundreds of people.This idea that a few fans on a message board can organize a city-wide boycott by over 10 million people are bold.
Good luck with that.
How do you spell his name wrong all 5 times in this otherwise very informative post?The short answer is “athletic scholarships” which St. Leigel is able to offer but were not available to his 2 immediate predecessors to offer, and still cannot be offered by his Ivy academic competitors
St. Leigel’s 2 immediate predecessors Bruen (a very good guy) was unable to provide any athletic scholarships under Patriot rules, and his immediate predecessor Emmett Davis was prohibited from providing any athletic scholarships during a portion of his coaching career at Colgate, and only a restricted number the later part of his time in Hamilton, NY.
Leigel has been able to offer scholarships for his entire time at Colgate.
The high academic recruits which Leigel competes with are frequently looking at competing offers from Ivy schools.
The Ivies, as you know do not give athletic scholarships. Leigel can offer the free ride to recruit from an upper or high income family which is not available from the Ivy. (Don’t believe the urban legends about Ivy athletes getting under the table payments.).
A second advantage which Leigel has at Colgate over his Patriot competition is that Colgate is “all in” on athletics and now funds it’s athletics at higher levels than it’s League competitors. The past 2 Administrations has adopted athletics as a type of identity for the college. Take a look at the Colgate website an you will see the full range of sports it offers that other Patriot schools do not offer.
Not all Patriot schools are as committed to athletics as Colgate is or has been. Even after the Patriot League allowed athletic scholarships many of the Ivy wannabes that comprise the Patriot were slow to award athletic scholarships at all, much lass in the full quantity allowed by the NCAA. An example to this is that Bucknell did not award mens basketball scholarships until 2013.
So yes, St. Leigel has compiled a very good record at Colgate but having seen his program I believe he has certain institutional advantages at Colgate that will not carry over to a less academic controlled school. Many of the posters on this site who have fallen in love with his solid win- loss record are likely not familiar with the Colgate athletics and the Patriot League.
Inside informationHow do you spell his name wrong all 5 times in this otherwise very informative post?
Yeah I know it's never going to happen because you're loyal fans.This idea that a few fans on a message board can organize a city-wide boycott by over 10 million people are bold.
Good luck with that.
He’s winning with Kyle Neptune’s players. In my opinion, too soonThe more I watch Fordham, the way they play defense and the way they move and share the ball on offense, I think Urgo should get a serious look. I know it’s only one year but if we can’t lure Pitino or Mack , Urgo should get an interview.
Some of them are Jeff Neubauer's players..He’s winning with Kyle Neptune’s players. In my opinion, too soon
Agreed. That's what accounted for Drew valentine's success last year at loyola chicago (with moser's players)He’s winning with Kyle Neptune’s players. In my opinion, too soon