Possible Coaching Candidates

Seems like a lot of the names thrown around in this thread are early in their contracts or recently extended. So there will be buyouts on top of buyouts if any of them are in play. If the admin is already playing the poor mouth game, then all roads lead to a fired coach looking for work. Or someone with an easy out of an existing contract.
 
Ray Morgan said:
Seems like a lot of the names thrown around in this thread are early in their contracts or recently extended. So there will be buyouts on top of buyouts if any of them are in play. If the admin is already playing the poor mouth game, then all roads lead to a fired coach looking for work. Or someone with an easy out of an existing contract.
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Pitino.
 
St John’s has a chance to undue two decades of stupid decisions. Rick P has done his penance hire him ASAP. It basically comes down to this. If you are a St. John’s hoops fan who realizes the desperation of a down program a Rick P hire would be like Christmas. If you call yourself a fan and don’t want Mr. Pitino for whatever BS sanctimonious reason you express, you need therapy.
 
Moose said:
Brey is such a bad choice to me I’m almost tempted to say let CMA stay. Or give Van the job at that point. If you take a 60 year old retread who is going in the wrong direction you might as well pack up the program.
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I agree.

- His teams tend to be soft
- Always get outmuscled and out rebounded
- Players look like they don't lift weights
- He has that get old and stay old (rarely plays freshmen, prefers upperclassmen)
 
fordham96 said:
I think this is why Brey won't happen. It seems too similar to the hiring of Anderson. A high major coach in his 60's who was fired/pushed out from his previous job simply because the program had clearly declined.

I don't see how SJU can sell that type of hire when you just fired a very similar hire from 4 years ago.

Although with SJU they always seem to find a way to screw things up so who knows.

For those who think Chris Mack falls into that same category I will disagree since I think Mack being much younger and his body of work at Louisville was too small to draw the conclusion that his best days are behind him.
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Agree on the Mack front. Think he'd be a solid choice here.

Since he's currently unemployed then I'd hope Cragg knows what the deal is regarding Mack and if there is mutual interest by now. By this point Cragg should have his own short list of options he'd like and would know if Mack is on that list. If so, have to think some contact has been made to gauge if there is interest on Mack's end.
 
MugCostanza said:
Jay is absolutely nothing more than a pure pipe dream.

I disagree with sticking with CMA if we whiff on the big guns. Coaches in college basketball are like QBs in the NFL. You have to cut bait when they stink and keep trying until you find the right one. Keeping CMA around until there's a new hot young up and coming coach or whatever could be fruitless if 1) one doesn't surface for years or 2) one does surface but goes somewhere else.
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We could have snapped up Jay Wright when he was at Hofstra. That ship sailed years ago.
 
stjohnschris said:
I don't see a coaching change happening this year, or going into next year. We would need a much bigger incident than just losing games, unless, maybe if we only got one or two more wins the rest of the season... and if that actually happens, there's definitely some locker room drama going on and players/recruits jumping ship.
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There are places where "just losing games" would be considered a more actionable cause for termination than committing murder.
 
SJUWillRockNYC said:
So SJU fans gotta be miserable because of a few on the BOT?

Sometimes you have no choice but to do change so you aren't miserable.

Just speaking in general.
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I didn’t say I would agree with choice. I just have a feeling it might be headed that way.
 
Johnny Rapper said:
St John’s has a chance to undue two decades of stupid decisions. Rick P has done his penance hire him ASAP. It basically comes down to this. If you are a St. John’s hoops fan who realizes the desperation of a down program a Rick P hire would be like Christmas. If you call yourself a fan and don’t want Mr. Pitino for whatever BS sanctimonious reason you express, you need therapy.
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If Satan could coach us into the NCAA Tournament he'd have my full support. The question is whether Rick P. still has the mojo to beat the big dogs.
 
PARedman said:
If Satan could coach us into the NCAA Tournament he'd have my full support. The question is whether Rick P. still has the mojo to beat the big dogs.
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Good point, but not at least taking the chance and letting another team get him and find success would be devastating.
 
Article on ESPN+ today about schools potentially looking for new coaches, by Jeff Borzello. St John's is mentioned.

St. John's raised some eyebrows when it hired Mike Anderson back in 2019, and while the Red Storm are headed for their fourth straight finish above .500 overall, they will likely miss the NCAA tournament for the fourth straight season. Anderson has a substantial eight-figure guarantee if he were to be fired, and it's unclear whether the school will come up with the money. Rick Pitino will be rumored as a replacement, as will Mike Brey and Bobby Hurley, but there are also a number of up-and-coming names in the mid-Atlantic and Northeast (Hofstra's Speedy Claxton, Fordham's Keith Urgo, Bryant's Jared Grasso) that could be intriguing.
 
I think it would be interesting if posters that really know the coaching landscape put a list of candidates and their odds of being the next coach at St. John's. No need to start a separate thread I guess. We could follow it here. One would have to take into account contract impediments and the like. I wouldn't bother with Jay Wright, Coach K, or other such no way no how names. Including odds on the next coach being CMA is fair game, as that is still in play if the team wins their remaining big East games and goes deep into the conference tournament. The only coaching candidate I would handicap is Pitino at 20 to 1. Which may be understating his longshot status. Pitino is for universities that aren't afraid of their own shadows. I don't see SJU in that category.
 
I think what Keith Urgo has done is remarkable considering Fordham hasn't had a 20-win season since.... (checks calendar)...... 1991.

But the sample size is so small to gauge future success.
 
room112 said:
Article on ESPN+ today about schools potentially looking for new coaches, by Jeff Borzello. St John's is mentioned.

St. John's raised some eyebrows when it hired Mike Anderson back in 2019, and while the Red Storm are headed for their fourth straight finish above .500 overall, they will likely miss the NCAA tournament for the fourth straight season. Anderson has a substantial eight-figure guarantee if he were to be fired, and it's unclear whether the school will come up with the money. Rick Pitino will be rumored as a replacement, as will Mike Brey and Bobby Hurley, but there are also a number of up-and-coming names in the mid-Atlantic and Northeast (Hofstra's Speedy Claxton, Fordham's Keith Urgo, Bryant's Jared Grasso) that could be intriguing.
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Again, where is the "substantial eight-figure buyout" thing coming from? Braziller? I find it really hard to believe that number. If by some reason that's accurate, everyone needs to go and they should close the law school. :)
 
fan since 65 said:
Again, where is the "substantial eight-figure buyout" thing coming from? Braziller? I find it really hard to believe that number. If by some reason that's accurate, everyone needs to go and they should close the law school. :)
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Since the highest end of the buyout is considered to be $10 mill I can only assume the writer means $10 mill is substantial, not that the buyout is substantially in 8 figures. :ROFLMAO:
 
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