At MemphisMonte post=454055 said:Speaking of old, well-traveled, successful coaches, I had no idea LB was coaching at E. Carolina
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You get the pain!Knight post=454053 said:Flirting with a Pitino hire is like bargaining with the devil, like Damn Yankees. We’d need a very friendly escape clause.
and he looks thrilled to be there.Paultzman post=454057 said:At MemphisMonte post=454055 said:Speaking of old, well-traveled, successful coaches, I had no idea LB was coaching at E. Carolina
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Laughing stock, no. Irrelevant, unfortunately yes. We are an after thought nationally and at home.Monte post=453977 said:Agree completely RMN. What many of our fan base fail to realize is that our program has fallen to somewhere between completely irrelevant, and a total laughingstock. Now, that can change pretty quickly, but I'm starting to wonder if I have enough years left on this earth to see that change happen. As for Pitino, if he does his penance at Iona, and if our program is as above reproach as some claim it is, there is no reason why he couldn't come here, completely play by the rules and have us back on top in no time. In any event we have a coach for at least another few years, so we'll see what happens when our next coaching vacancy happens.redmannorth post=453968 said:we all accept that college sports is a very dirty business and no one is saying we are the holiest progrAm that exists. However Coach Pitino’s transgressions we’re really bad, they really went far and above the norm and if he would move to coach in a major confèrence the school would be under a larger microscope. Are we ready to accept that , I don’t think so at the moment, but can’t say how things would be in a few years. I understand and share your frustrations which may be greater for those of us who have less time to see us dance and who lived through the great years and find it so much harder to accept the decline. You want to climb the hill, we can’t believe how far we have fallen as a program. Trust me the fall is much harder to accept.Classof2010 post=453910 said:I love the posters on here who crap on Pitino. Always talking about winning the right way. Give me a break. First off, college athletics always dirty. Atleast, now the players are getting compensated legally. Also, we have paid players in past just not good players. Abe Keira and Sid Wilson come to mind. The whole Pitt Scandal happened the same time as Baylor. Only 6 seasons later, Scott Drew had them in an Elite 8 and Norm had a circle jerk. I graduated over 10 years ago been a fan since 1997. I want to win because I’m tired of hearing about the 80s from these puritanical alums. Most of these folks are either collecting Social Security or close to it. Pitino is not perfect but, he is the guy to bring us back to those years in the 1980’s. I’m tired of being hit up for donations that contribute to mediocrity! Emailed Cragg and he got back to me. Nice guy, even with Anderson signing the extension definitely think he is not guaranteed to be here for long haul.
one thing that I have come to réalisé is if he ever would be hired at SJU I have no doubt the large majority of the fan base would rally behind him.
MainMan post=454047 said:I take Pitino at his word when he says his next job is his dream job.
Never said Louisville wasn't a top job but it is not Kentucky even if in terms of revenue they are No. 1 and Kentucky is No. 2. I didn't call him Larry Brown either (I remember a Sports Illustrated article on Larry back in the mid to late 80's and the article's title was something like "Where Are You Going to Be Next Year Larry?" Every time I hear his name, I think about that article.fordham96 post=454074 said:OK I get it but the Celtics are an iconic franchise in the NBA and Dave Gavitt a close friend from his BE/Providence days offered him the job. And a ton of money. He does not have anything to apologize for with Kentucky. He returned that program to glory (from the toilet) and actually at the time he left the UK program supplanted Duke as the best program in the country. He left a Rolls Royce in Lexington.
Leaving the Celtics was not exactly a hard thing since he was being run out of town. Not exactly him "voluntarily" leaving.
And obviously he did not leave Louisville voluntarily and he spent 16 years at Louisville, that is hardly Larry Brown-esque. Also if he was not fired from Louisville (something he brought on himself no doubt) do you really think he would have left? He loved it there, great program and horse racing. Just because they are not number 1 in Kentucky does not change the fact they are a top 10 job and the UL basketball generates more revenue then any basketball program in the country.
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MainMan post=454047 said:
I thought that was the Knicks. Then it was Kentucky. Then the Celtics. He couldn't sell Louisville as his dream job after being at Kentucky where in that state, Louisville will always be No. 2 to Kentucky and leaving that job for the Celtics.
Quite frankly, consider the following:SJU85 post=455087 said:Never said Louisville wasn't a top job but it is not Kentucky even if in terms of revenue they are No. 1 and Kentucky is No. 2. I didn't call him Larry Brown either (I remember a Sports Illustrated article on Larry back in the mid to late 80's and the article's title was something like "Where Are You Going to Be Next Year Larry?" Every time I hear his name, I think about that article.fordham96 post=454074 said:OK I get it but the Celtics are an iconic franchise in the NBA and Dave Gavitt a close friend from his BE/Providence days offered him the job. And a ton of money. He does not have anything to apologize for with Kentucky. He returned that program to glory (from the toilet) and actually at the time he left the UK program supplanted Duke as the best program in the country. He left a Rolls Royce in Lexington.
Leaving the Celtics was not exactly a hard thing since he was being run out of town. Not exactly him "voluntarily" leaving.
And obviously he did not leave Louisville voluntarily and he spent 16 years at Louisville, that is hardly Larry Brown-esque. Also if he was not fired from Louisville (something he brought on himself no doubt) do you really think he would have left? He loved it there, great program and horse racing. Just because they are not number 1 in Kentucky does not change the fact they are a top 10 job and the UL basketball generates more revenue then any basketball program in the country.
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MainMan post=454047 said:
I thought that was the Knicks. Then it was Kentucky. Then the Celtics. He couldn't sell Louisville as his dream job after being at Kentucky where in that state, Louisville will always be No. 2 to Kentucky and leaving that job for the Celtics.
The quote I responded to was "I take Pitino at his word when he says his next job is his dream job.", hence my point that those jobs I mentioned were supposed to be his dream jobs. It has nothing to do with how or why he left. And yes if he hadn't screwed up off the court, he would still be a the Ville but he did.
I learned a very long time ago that those who claim to be the most moral and ethical, are oftentimes the ones who have the most to hide.fordham96 post=455205 said:The people who have essentially elected themselves the moral compass of this board with regards to SJU fandom is a sight to behold for sure.
Coincidentally just watched the Showtime special on "America's Dad" Bill Cosby.Monte post=455209 said:I learned a very long time ago that those who claim to be the most moral and ethical, are oftentimes the ones who have the most to hide.fordham96 post=455205 said:The people who have essentially elected themselves the moral compass of this board with regards to SJU fandom is a sight to behold for sure.