Pitino and Iona

CMA is exactly what the program and the school needs—A change in culture and outlook.
 
[quote="MarkRedman" post=381981][quote="panther2" post=381980][quote="Paultzman" post=381943]Zach B
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same." #icmbb

Can’t wait to see the white suit in Atlantic City for MAAC Tourney[/quote]


Anyone who believes this Bullshit is crazy. His biggest regret is getting busted for cheating, on his wife and paying off kids. If you believe the DOB was paying for the strippers, shame on you.

Glad that St. Johns did not hire him. If Iona wants to prostitute themselves in order to win, that's on them. All the thirsty handlers in NYC will be looking for a PayDay courtesy of Slick Rick.[/quote]

I can't believe that a Catholic school hired Slick Rick[/quote]
If he wins and fills the arena no one will care. Iona made a smart move. We are the dumb bells
 
[quote="RedmanMike" post=382049]Rick Pitino could go undefeated and win a national championship at Iona and I’d still be glad we didn’t hire him.[/quote]

Exactly! There are many reasons to not hire Pitno at SJU. Winning a championship is no guarantee, but also not a justifiable reason to hire such a low life.
 
[quote="RedmanMike" post=382049]Rick Pitino could go undefeated and win a national championship at Iona and I’d still be glad we didn’t hire him.[/quote]

If st John's doesnt win soon this program will be nonexistent. You seem to forget no one was banging the doors to coach st johns.last year
 
Pitino picked one heck of a time to move to New Rochelle. Welcome to COVID-19 and the containment zone Mr Pitino. :sick:

I refuse to follow any team that Pitino coaches. There's been too many allegations of dirty recruiting. The sordid escort scandal is so distasteful. I don't care how many games Pitino wins.

I don't understand why the NCAA is welcoming this douche-b back as a coach? What more does a disgraced head coach have to do to earn a lifetime ban?
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...ball-coach-rick-pitino-escort-scandal-n773031[/URL]
 
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[quote="dee" post=382065][quote="MarkRedman" post=381981][quote="panther2" post=381980][quote="Paultzman" post=381943]Zach B
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same." #icmbb

Can’t wait to see the white suit in Atlantic City for MAAC Tourney[/quote]


Anyone who believes this Bullshit is crazy. His biggest regret is getting busted for cheating, on his wife and paying off kids. If you believe the DOB was paying for the strippers, shame on you.

Glad that St. Johns did not hire him. If Iona wants to prostitute themselves in order to win, that's on them. All the thirsty handlers in NYC will be looking for a PayDay courtesy of Slick Rick.[/quote]

I can't believe that a Catholic school hired Slick Rick[/quote]
If he wins and fills the arena no one will care. Iona made a smart move. We are the dumb bells[/quote]

That is a funny statement. His team will play in the MAAC which is a small regional conference so it won't be very difficult for a skilled coach like him to win there. It's not like Fred Hoiberg returning to coach Nebraska in the Big 10. BTW, that return literally made him sick.
As far as filling the arena, filling the 2,600 seat Hynes Center was easy under coach Cluess so he better fill the arena.
The bottom line is that he will be successful at Iona because of the level of play but I expect that he will continue his dirty recruiting tactics on a smaller scale because of the newer lax transfer rules. Yes, he is a great basketball tactician but comparing him to coach K or coach B is not the same because those legends coach at elite basketball schools with a huge national following. Iona is, and will always be, small time in comparison. He will.be coaching his first game at Iona at age 68 while we have a younger and more ethical coach that will eventually attract the players we need to succeed without paying off handlers.
 
[quote="dee" post=382068][quote="RedmanMike" post=382049]Rick Pitino could go undefeated and win a national championship at Iona and I’d still be glad we didn’t hire him.[/quote]

If st John's doesnt win soon this program will be nonexistent. You seem to forget no one was banging the doors to coach st johns.last year[/quote]

And no one was banging on Pitino's door either. There was a reason for that.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=382070][quote="dee" post=382065][quote="MarkRedman" post=381981][quote="panther2" post=381980][quote="Paultzman" post=381943]Zach B
Rick Pitino: "My biggest regret in coaching was leaving Providence College. They were two magical years in my life. It was a small Catholic school with a small gym I loved so much. I'm going back to a similar situation. I know I'll love it equally the same." #icmbb

Can’t wait to see the white suit in Atlantic City for MAAC Tourney[/quote]


Anyone who believes this Bullshit is crazy. His biggest regret is getting busted for cheating, on his wife and paying off kids. If you believe the DOB was paying for the strippers, shame on you.

Glad that St. Johns did not hire him. If Iona wants to prostitute themselves in order to win, that's on them. All the thirsty handlers in NYC will be looking for a PayDay courtesy of Slick Rick.[/quote]

I can't believe that a Catholic school hired Slick Rick[/quote]
If he wins and fills the arena no one will care. Iona made a smart move. We are the dumb bells[/quote]

That is a funny statement. His team will play in the MAAC which is a small regional conference so it won't be very difficult for a skilled coach like him to win there. It's not like Fred Hoiberg returning to coach Nebraska in the Big 10. BTW, that return literally made him sick.
As far as filling the arena, filling the 2,600 seat Hynes Center was easy under coach Cluess so he better fill the arena.
The bottom line is that he will be successful at Iona because of the level of play but I expect that he will continue his dirty recruiting tactics on a smaller scale because of the newer lax transfer rules. Yes, he is a great basketball tactician but comparing him to coach K or coach B is not the same because those legends coach at elite basketball schools with a huge national following. Iona is, and will always be, small time in comparison. He will.be coaching his first game at Iona at age 68 while we have a younger and more ethical coach that will eventually attract the players we need to succeed without paying off handlers.[/quote]

This idea that he is successful because he is dirty is nonsense. He did not win at Providence and do one of the great turnarounds in history at Kentucky because he cheats. He is not a good coach he is a ALL TIME great coach. The idea that he would cheat to outcoach Sha Holloway or Steve Massielo is nonsense. There is not a coach in that league who can hold a candle to him on the sidelines or in a huddle ever.
 
Here is the point I am trying to make. Put yourself in this position. You are a big booster at SJU. You have been very disappointed in SJU hirings recently. Chris Mullin has just resigned.

You have watched SJU fail to land Bobby Hurley from ASU, get turned down by the HC at Loyola of Chicago and the HC at UMBC refuses to even interview. Your AD is looking at hiring the HC at Yale. Guys this really did happen. Pitino's agent calls you and says he is interested. Says call Indianapolis and you will see his name was cleared, no show cause. You are that booster. You going to simply say no?

Very easy to make the claims NOW when it is not your money and more importantly when we now know it was not going to happen. But I just love the people who simply are so sure of themselves that they would say no.

Pitino is easily one of the 10 greatest coaches in CBB history. EASILY. Ask anyone. Anyone. Ask Jim Boeheim, he is the ONE coach who he says he would NOT want to see on the other sideline in a big game.That is not because of cheating that is because of brilliance. No question about the baggage. But the fact is Calipari and Boeheim have had as bad if not worse are you saying you wouldn't hire either of them.
 
Rick should have stayed in the NBA where the players get their own strippers and the sneaker companies pay the players in the open. When he is successful at Iona, he will be going on to a Major college. As Iona is using him to advance their profile, Rick is using them to get his next job on a BIG stage.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=382074]Here is the point I am trying to make. Put yourself in this position. You are a big booster at SJU. You have been very disappointed in SJU hirings recently. Chris Mullin has just resigned.

You have watched SJU fail to land Bobby Hurley from ASU, get turned down by the HC at Loyola of Chicago and the HC at UMBC refuses to even interview. Your AD is looking at hiring the HC at Yale. Guys this really did happen. Pitino's agent calls you and says he is interested. Says call Indianapolis and you will see his name was cleared, no show cause. You are that booster. You going to simply say no?

Very easy to make the claims NOW when it is not your money and more importantly when we now know it was not going to happen. But I just love the people who simply are so sure of themselves that they would say no.

Pitino is easily one of the 10 greatest coaches in CBB history. EASILY. Ask anyone. Anyone. Ask Jim Boeheim, he is the ONE coach who he says he would NOT want to see on the other sideline in a big game.That is not because of cheating that is because of brilliance. No question about the baggage. But the fact is Calipari and Boeheim have had as bad if not worse are you saying you wouldn't hire either of them.[/quote]

If he is such a great coach, then why cheat?
 
[quote="SJU14" post=382078][quote="fordham96" post=382074]Here is the point I am trying to make. Put yourself in this position. You are a big booster at SJU. You have been very disappointed in SJU hirings recently. Chris Mullin has just resigned.

You have watched SJU fail to land Bobby Hurley from ASU, get turned down by the HC at Loyola of Chicago and the HC at UMBC refuses to even interview. Your AD is looking at hiring the HC at Yale. Guys this really did happen. Pitino's agent calls you and says he is interested. Says call Indianapolis and you will see his name was cleared, no show cause. You are that booster. You going to simply say no?

Very easy to make the claims NOW when it is not your money and more importantly when we now know it was not going to happen. But I just love the people who simply are so sure of themselves that they would say no.

Pitino is easily one of the 10 greatest coaches in CBB history. EASILY. Ask anyone. Anyone. Ask Jim Boeheim, he is the ONE coach who he says he would NOT want to see on the other sideline in a big game.That is not because of cheating that is because of brilliance. No question about the baggage. But the fact is Calipari and Boeheim have had as bad if not worse are you saying you wouldn't hire either of them.[/quote]

If he is such a great coach, then why cheat?[/quote]
JMO but if Kansas, Duke, and Kentucky are cheating you have to keep up with the Jonses.
 
Pitino probably a top 5 college basketball coach in the last 50 years or whatever. That said given the nature of his 3 major scandals he should not be in a position to mentor 18-21 year old young men. Just read the book The last Temptation of Rick Pitino by by Michael Sokolove.
 
its a great hire. lets be honest in next 3 years he will get them further than us
 
He's an all time coach, no doubt, and I'm sure he'll do great there until he moves on, which IMO will be sooner than later. Now that he's back in the fold it will be easier for better programs (or the NBA) to make a move on him. Any negative press that follows hiring him, by and large, will play itself out in the weeks to come if not over the next year. You won't see that same type of negative attention when he goes to his next gig. That plus the NCAA show-cause/sanctions issue scared off many teams -- forget us, by freaking UCLA could have hired him.

It's possible to say all that and still be happy with the Anderson hire. If you are an SJU booster, I think what Anderson did this year should make you feel proud and content.


[quote="fordham96" post=382074]Here is the point I am trying to make. Put yourself in this position. You are a big booster at SJU. You have been very disappointed in SJU hirings recently. Chris Mullin has just resigned.

You have watched SJU fail to land Bobby Hurley from ASU, get turned down by the HC at Loyola of Chicago and the HC at UMBC refuses to even interview. Your AD is looking at hiring the HC at Yale. Guys this really did happen. Pitino's agent calls you and says he is interested. Says call Indianapolis and you will see his name was cleared, no show cause. You are that booster. You going to simply say no?

Very easy to make the claims NOW when it is not your money and more importantly when we now know it was not going to happen. But I just love the people who simply are so sure of themselves that they would say no.

Pitino is easily one of the 10 greatest coaches in CBB history. EASILY. Ask anyone. Anyone. Ask Jim Boeheim, he is the ONE coach who he says he would NOT want to see on the other sideline in a big game.That is not because of cheating that is because of brilliance. No question about the baggage. But the fact is Calipari and Boeheim have had as bad if not worse are you saying you wouldn't hire either of them.[/quote]
 
We are not a win at any cost program, never have been and hopefully never will be.

I'd rather have our record playing by the rules than the stuff Rick allowed in his programs that we know about, no less the things we don't.

If Rick doesn't understand why St. John's didn't call him, that's really one reason why he'd never fit in here
 
We will find out how quickly he can build it. He has 3 of the top 5 graduating. Not many left to chose from in 2019. He will have to go hard after the grad transfers.
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=382082]its a great hire. lets be honest in next 3 years he will get them further than us[/quote]

Agree with first part. Praying against second part.
 
Let’s not pretend his “greatness” on the sidelines wasn’t in a huge way augmented by his cheating. His UK and Louisville teams were all with purchased talent, lots of McD’s AA’s. Talent wins ball games and Pitino is one of the best cheaters of all time who got nabbed.
One needs to look at Panther’s comments as a guy who has been around nyc basketball for a long time. This master tactician was propped up for most of his coaching years on booster-bought top talent.
 
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