Pitino and Iona

[quote="Moose" post=383964][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=383958]Have heard, from a source I trust, that MSG has offered Iona 3-4 home games.

Don't know if that is over 2 or 3 years.[/quote]

Perfect time to scale back............[/quote]
Iona..New York's Team! ;)
 
If there was ever a time to schedule a home and home with a mid major, now is the time.
 
[quote="Adam" post=383321][quote="RedmanMike" post=383319][quote="Paultzman" post=383318][quote="Adam" post=383316]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any of these players are Big East caliber. Don't understand why some are freaking out. Great for Iona, but not relevant to us.

Also, often coaches have their best recruiting classes within their first year or two. Just look at Mullin and Lavin. Just because he's stockpiling mid-major talent now doesn't mean he's going to elevate that to Big East talent. If anything, the way he's recruiting now tells me he won't be a problem for us.[/quote]
Agree, no sense to freak out on this.[/quote]

Absolutely correct - remember all the buzz about how Mullin was off to a fast start because he signed a bunch of guys right out of the gate? It was desperation time, because you have to fill a roster. I remember listening to a recruiting podcast at the time saying that Yakuba Sima was a legit NBA prospect, so it's easy to overrate these guys just because Pitino is signing them.[/quote]

Yep- and Mullin actually put together a very nice first class on paper- was ranked #25 overall I believe. Lots of talent around the 100-150 range. Big name coaches like Penny, Mullin, Lavin, etc can come in and recruit well immediately but that doesn't mean they'll continue doing so (let alone do much better later on).

None of these recruits even appear to have recruiting pages. In other words, they're 2 star talent. It's possible some are 3 stars, but certainly no better and doubt we were in on any of them.[/quote]

Pitino has a history of recruiting that is the difference
 
[quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=383958]Have heard, from a source I trust, that MSG has offered Iona 3-4 home games.

Don't know if that is over 2 or 3 years.[/quote]

Better be two, because he'll be looking to be gone before year three.
 
As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.
 
[quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote] as we think the same way he’s going to get there
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=383978][quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote] as we think the same way he’s going to get there[/quote]

You guys are funny. A MAAC team is not going to get ranked unless they are undefeated in mid February. Good luck to him but I don't see it.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=383938][quote="Moose" post=383936]https://twitter.com/IonaGuyF/status/1245401512915976193[/quote]

Like him or not, the man works quickly.[/quote]
Agree that Pitino brings gravitas...but I don’t think Iona - Oklahoma State generates much buzz...
 
[quote="nycfan" post=383956]Ready or not, Pitino wants to be THE program in NY metro
area. Iona will get tons more coverage with him being there.[/quote]will never be THE program
 
[quote="isham" post=383980]Pitino's buy out is 10 million $$. He's not going anywhere[/quote]that is nothing for a big 5 school with benefactors
 
[quote="Moose" post=383964][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=383958]Have heard, from a source I trust, that MSG has offered Iona 3-4 home games.

Don't know if that is over 2 or 3 years.[/quote]

Perfect time to scale back............[/quote]

It's really simple. Fans show up at MSG we take more games. You don't gain anything by playing in a garden with 7 or 8 thousand fans.

Like him or not, Mullin's last season attracted 16,500 to msg games. Our fans only show up for winning basketball.

Iona is banking on Rick attracting 10k fans on average to Garden. He may have insisted on msg to recruit. He isn't dumb, not by a long shot.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=383988][quote="Moose" post=383964][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=383958]Have heard, from a source I trust, that MSG has offered Iona 3-4 home games.

Don't know if that is over 2 or 3 years.[/quote]

Perfect time to scale back............[/quote]

It's really simple. Fans show up at MSG we take more games. You don't gain anything by playing in a garden with 7 or 8 thousand fans.

Like him or not, Mullin's last season attracted 16,500 to msg games. Our fans only show up for winning basketball.

Iona is banking on Rick attracting 10k fans on average to Garden. He may have insisted on msg to recruit. He isn't dumb, not by a long shot.[/quote]

Winning brings people to the Garden

For too many years like the Norm years we drew nobody and barely broke even with crap crowds

MSG renovates and jacks rent and our break even number is now higher. Plus we keep hiring and firing coaches paying severances etc.

Iona won’t draw 10k. But they are striking while the iron is hot and taking a gamble. Maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it’s a smart calculated risk.

SJU scaling back is a risky move. Could pay dividends but if certain stars align it could allow there to be a newer shiny toy to get the love
 
[quote="austour" post=383979][quote="mjmaherjr" post=383978][quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote] as we think the same way he’s going to get there[/quote]

You guys are funny. A MAAC team is not going to get ranked unless they are undefeated in mid February. Good luck to him but I don't see it.[/quote] if he's there in 3 years we bet a lobster roll I'm saying he hits top 25 1 week minimum
 
[quote="Moose" post=383991][quote="Beast of the East" post=383988][quote="Moose" post=383964][quote="jerseyshorejohnny" post=383958]Have heard, from a source I trust, that MSG has offered Iona 3-4 home games.

Don't know if that is over 2 or 3 years.[/quote]

Perfect time to scale back............[/quote]

It's really simple. Fans show up at MSG we take more games. You don't gain anything by playing in a garden with 7 or 8 thousand fans.

Like him or not, Mullin's last season attracted 16,500 to msg games. Our fans only show up for winning basketball.

Iona is banking on Rick attracting 10k fans on average to Garden. He may have insisted on msg to recruit. He isn't dumb, not by a long shot.[/quote]

Winning brings people to the Garden

For too many years like the Norm years we drew nobody and barely broke even with crap crowds

MSG renovates and jacks rent and our break even number is now higher. Plus we keep hiring and firing coaches paying severances etc.

Iona won’t draw 10k. But they are striking while the iron is hot and taking a gamble. Maybe it works maybe it doesn’t but it’s a smart calculated risk.

SJU scaling back is a risky move. Could pay dividends but if certain stars align it could allow there to be a newer shiny toy to get the love[/quote] Slice Bonilla comes off the books after next season :)
 
They aren’t getting 3-4 games in one season I’m sure of that, so gotta pimp the brakes. It’s likely over a few years. We are a fixture there and will be for a long time. Anderson wins and people will come, although I do think a lot of people left because of the huge price increase and I hope Cragg can get some of them back. There are also a hunch that left because they loved Mullin and SJU canned him. Those fans there’s nothing you can do anything about. I hope people support Mike Anderson though because he deserves as much support as any coach we have had. Professional, clean coach who wins.
 
[quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote]

I stopped following anything IONA ever since Mrs. 72's nephew got expelled a few years ago. So, other than the name "Pitino", what makes you think that a MAAC school without 4 and 5 star players, playing a MAAC schedule could become a top 25 team by the time Slick Rick turns 70? Also, can anyone explain why or how he is off to a fast start? What impact player has he signed? The MSG experience can turn into a nationally televised embarrassment. Finally, forget his $10 million buyout. There is not another major Power conference that will employ him. He wanted to get back into the NY market with an eye on the ever revolving NY Knicks job that will pay him millions. I know Iona, their campus, their "gym". Pitino is not getting Kentucky talent there without major under the table deals that would destroy a fragile program like Iona. That said, they made their bed so let's see how many college basketball fans who are not Iona grads actually attend MSG games in the age of COVID-19.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=383995][quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote]

I stopped following anything IONA ever since Mrs. 72's nephew got expelled a few years ago. So, other than the name "Pitino", what makes you think that a MAAC school without 4 and 5 star players, playing a MAAC schedule could become a top 25 team by the time Slick Rick turns 70? Also, can anyone explain why or how he is off to a fast start? What impact player has he signed? The MSG experience can turn into a nationally televised embarrassment. Finally, forget his $10 million buyout. There is not another major Power conference that will employ him. He wanted to get back into the NY market with an eye on the ever revolving NY Knicks job that will pay him millions. I know Iona, their campus, their "gym". Pitino is not getting Kentucky talent there without major under the table deals that would destroy a fragile program like Iona. That said, they made their bed so let's see how many college basketball fans who are not Iona grads actually attend MSG games in the age of COVID-19.[/quote] Is the Southland Conference much better ?

Stone Cold Stephen Austin finished something like 26. It's not insane to think Pitino could hit it for a week or 2 during regular season over next few years. He did take Providence as an unknown commodity to a final four at 33 or 34 years old. Not sure what 4 or 5 star recruits he had on providence though
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=383995][quote="Monte" post=383977]As I said before, Pitino did not go to Iona to have Cluess type of success. His goal is to get Iona to be a top 25 team, and quickly. He’s off to a fast start.[/quote]

I stopped following anything IONA ever since Mrs. 72's nephew got expelled a few years ago. So, other than the name "Pitino", what makes you think that a MAAC school without 4 and 5 star players, playing a MAAC schedule could become a top 25 team by the time Slick Rick turns 70? Also, can anyone explain why or how he is off to a fast start? What impact player has he signed? The MSG experience can turn into a nationally televised embarrassment. Finally, forget his $10 million buyout. There is not another major Power conference that will employ him. He wanted to get back into the NY market with an eye on the ever revolving NY Knicks job that will pay him millions. I know Iona, their campus, their "gym". Pitino is not getting Kentucky talent there without major under the table deals that would destroy a fragile program like Iona. That said, they made their bed so let's see how many college basketball fans who are not Iona grads actually attend MSG games in the age of COVID-19.[/quote]

Pitino will only need Kentucky level talent if he’s hoping to have a Kentucky level program, and that ain’t what I said nor what is happening. I said that he didn’t come to Iona to have Cluess level success, he came to Iona to get them to be a top 25 level program. I don’t know much about the kids he’s gotten so far, but i think you’re gravely mistaken if you don’t think that he’s going to grab some really talented kids. I also think you’re mistaken if you don’t think he can get Iona to a top 25 level within a few years. Time will tell. FWIW I’m still happy we have CMA here.
 
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