Orlando Sanchez

Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.
The other problem Marco has, is he now has to compete w Hooper for PT. I think Hooper is the better shooter.

With no one guarding him that may be he case but as we all know, unless the offense creates effective picks and screens, and wide open shots he may be no more effective then Marco, wheather he is a better shooter or not.

Some guys are good at getting shots off with very little space, even without tons of screens and picks. We'll see if Hooper can help us there. Marco should get a little more comfortable this year on the court as well. Having two guys who can shoot off the bench will no doubt help usin some games when we need some touch from the outside.
 
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Univ staffer stopped me on campus just now: "If there's a better, more respectful kid than Orlando Sanchez I haven't met him." #sjubb #stjbb

I feel he'll bring leadership, experience, and skill to the team.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.
 
That's nice to hear. Maybe he will balance out Dlo

I've never met Dlo, but it has been said that he is very respectful. On court & off court personalities are completely different

I've heard he's a bright kid and a good student. His competitive nature is what gives him problems in games. Why there are problems in practice, I can't figure.

Yeah he was recently named to the Big East Honor Roll.

I remain very high on D-Lo. Let's remember, this is an era where these kids are told they are the greatest from 12 years old. There's 10 articles per day about milennials and the entitlement generation. There are tons - tons - of coaches/programs that would have told D-Lo everything he wanted to hear and welcomed him with open arms. That would have been the path of least resistence.

Instead D-Lo showed perserverence and stayed with a coach/program who has held him accountable (which stands in contrast to the complaints about his generation). To me this speaks volumes about his character. It doesn't excuse any past transgressions or eliminate the possibility of future issues, but for the time being it is commendable and a reason for optimism about where his career and contributions to this team are heading, not doubt regarding same.

Let's also not allow the suspension and his play the 2nd half of last year to cloud how good he can be. We can pull up legitimate conversations from March 2012 threads about whether or not Harkless was the best rookie on his own team because of how good Harrison had been. He followed that up by getting 20 or more in 13 of our first 20 games last year. Things did not go particularly well from there, and he like everybody else has things in his game he can work on (efficiency). But the fact remains he has shown an ability to be one the better scorers in the conference and can do so in a variety of ways. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do for this team with a full compliment of depth and talent around him for the first time since he came to SJU.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.


In concept I agree with you, but I believe that Marco had ample opportunity to prove he belonged on the court. I don't recall where he ever logged 10 impressive minutes that merited 15 the next game or 25 , etc. In his skill set, he has to has streaks where he torches the net for 3-4 or more baskets in a row. It hasn't happened yet.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.


In concept I agree with you, but I believe that Marco had ample opportunity to prove he belonged on the court. I don't recall where he ever logged 10 impressive minutes that merited 15 the next game or 25 , etc. In his skill set, he has to has streaks where he torches the net for 3-4 or more baskets in a row. It hasn't happened yet.

Marco's problem was not so much the minutes, but the fact that he was the only shooter on the court and every easily marked at all times. He very rarely played with Harrison. We were one of the worst shooting teams in the country, and to make matters worse we had no inside scoring threat nor did we have a true point guard.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.


In concept I agree with you, but I believe that Marco had ample opportunity to prove he belonged on the court. I don't recall where he ever logged 10 impressive minutes that merited 15 the next game or 25 , etc. In his skill set, he has to has streaks where he torches the net for 3-4 or more baskets in a row. It hasn't happened yet.

Marco's problem was not so much the minutes, but the fact that he was the only shooter on the court and every easily marked at all times. He very rarely played with Harrison. We were one of the worst shooting teams in the country, and to make matters worse we had no inside scoring threat nor did we have a true point guard.

I do think he got a lot of good looks while averaging 10 minutes a game, and shot only 31% from the field, hardly a number that warrants any playing time for a guy with his skill set. In those ten minutes he got off about 3.3 shots on average, which is a reasonable distribution for a guy who shot so poorly and isn't a very big threat to take it to the hole (although he did show that he can penetrate and dish)
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.

Don't forget how often Dom picked up foolish fouls and got himself into trouble. When this happens maybe lavs will turn to 3 guards (my choice), maybe he'll play Jakarr's at the 3, or maybe hill work Marco/max into the rotation.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.


In concept I agree with you, but I believe that Marco had ample opportunity to prove he belonged on the court. I don't recall where he ever logged 10 impressive minutes that merited 15 the next game or 25 , etc. In his skill set, he has to has streaks where he torches the net for 3-4 or more baskets in a row. It hasn't happened yet.

Marco's problem was not so much the minutes, but the fact that he was the only shooter on the court and every easily marked at all times. He very rarely played with Harrison. We were one of the worst shooting teams in the country, and to make matters worse we had no inside scoring threat nor did we have a true point guard.

I do think he got a lot of good looks while averaging 10 minutes a game, and shot only 31% from the field, hardly a number that warrants any playing time for a guy with his skill set. In those ten minutes he got off about 3.3 shots on average, which is a reasonable distribution for a guy who shot so poorly and isn't a very big threat to take it to the hole (although he did show that he can penetrate and dish)

He had to get the ball and shoot immediately before he was comfortable. I don't remember that many open looks by Bourgault to be honest. Everyone misses open shots, but the way the other guys deferred to him and looked for him tells me that they all knew he was by far our best option.

He's a smart player and I don't think he feels comfortable forcing all of his shots out of necessity. I expect him to be much improved, but I don't know if that will be enough to get minutes with this loaded roster.
 
With regard to the Marco issue, does anyone remember how many times Phil Greene passed to him when he was open?

My own tally was.... none.. Phil taking the opportunity to hoist his own, poor % jumper..
 
With regard to the Marco issue, does anyone remember how many times Phil Greene passed to him when he was open?

My own tally was.... none.. Phil taking the opportunity to hoist his own, poor % jumper..

To respond, I was just going to post something similar. Marco loves to go to his spots on the floor and wait for the ball. Probably a chicken and egg thing, but his teammates did not trust his capability to make those shots, and often just ignored him. If he makes them he will get the ball, but he needs to get the ball to be confident and it had to be clear to him that he was being frozen out often.

For those old enough to recall, Sleepy Floyd, Mitch Richmond, Joe Barry Carroll and co. did the exact same thing to Mullin his rookie season in Golden State. Of course, Mullin when given the ball could still hit those shots in his sleep/
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.

Don't forget how often Dom picked up foolish fouls and got himself into trouble. When this happens maybe lavs will turn to 3 guards (my choice), maybe he'll play Jakarr's at the 3, or maybe hill work Marco/max into the rotation.

Dom still managed 27 mins per game and I don't think that will go down. All Amir's minutes will go to Sanchez. Jordan and Gift will be taking minutes from Jones, Felix and Marco and Max will be fighting for some too. Not many minutes for any of them.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.

Don't forget how often Dom picked up foolish fouls and got himself into trouble. When this happens maybe lavs will turn to 3 guards (my choice), maybe he'll play Jakarr's at the 3, or maybe hill work Marco/max into the rotation.

Dom still managed 27 mins per game and I don't think that will go down. All Amir's minutes will go to Sanchez. Jordan and Gift will be taking minutes from Jones, Felix and Marco and Max will be fighting for some too. Not many minutes for any of them.

Yes but that was with little depth. This year he should go straight to the bench once he gets his second foul in the first half.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.

Don't forget how often Dom picked up foolish fouls and got himself into trouble. When this happens maybe lavs will turn to 3 guards (my choice), maybe he'll play Jakarr's at the 3, or maybe hill work Marco/max into the rotation.

Dom still managed 27 mins per game and I don't think that will go down. All Amir's minutes will go to Sanchez. Jordan and Gift will be taking minutes from Jones, Felix and Marco and Max will be fighting for some too. Not many minutes for any of them.

Yes but that was with little depth. This year he should go straight to the bench once he gets his second foul in the first half.

First lack of depth last year is a myth. There were 10 guys averaging close to double digit minutes. If Branch and Harrison didn't miss so many games it wouldn't even be discussed. This year's team just happens to be deeper and has added even more talent and bulk.

There's not many guys that can do all the things Dom can, Marco and Max can do exactly none of the things Dom can. If Dom's out I'd sooner see Felix, Phil or Christian in the game. You can't replace your all around glue guy with a spot up shooter-period and expect similar results.
 
Did anyone notice how well Marco and Sanchez meshed on the Court for their JC team?

I'm not ready to give up on Marco just yet, but despite some surprising basketball sense and skills, for him to merit significant playing time, he MUST be a deadeye shooter when wide open. They say he has an abundance of confidence, so this season he must bust out, or prepare to keep a seat warm.

It's hard to be a dead eye shooter when you only playing a few minutes at a time. I believe in order to be an effective shooter, you need to be allowed to get into the flow of the game, and he wasn't given that chance. Lavin also showed no consistency in his amount of playing time. One game he would play 20+ mins, and the next game he would play like 5. I realize that it's all about matchups and whatnot, and you would like all players to believe in the "be ready just in case your number is called" motto, but that sometimes doesn't happen.

No one can predict what will happen in a game, so it is very challenging to sit there and say that player X will play 20mins and player Y will play 25, but for Marco and other 'shooter's to be more consistent, our coaching staff needs to be somewhat more consistent with the amount of PT they are alotting players.

If you're right then I would say confidence is low on the Max and Marco show. Neither is likely to get consistent minutes being that they're somewhere between the 10th and 13th seats on the bench, so the one that will probably get more time is the one who shows he can come off the bench hot, though not being a defensive liability will also help either of their causes. I don't see either getting double digit minutes very often this season.

Don't forget how often Dom picked up foolish fouls and got himself into trouble. When this happens maybe lavs will turn to 3 guards (my choice), maybe he'll play Jakarr's at the 3, or maybe hill work Marco/max into the rotation.

Dom still managed 27 mins per game and I don't think that will go down. All Amir's minutes will go to Sanchez. Jordan and Gift will be taking minutes from Jones, Felix and Marco and Max will be fighting for some too. Not many minutes for any of them.

Yes but that was with little depth. This year he should go straight to the bench once he gets his second foul in the first half.

First lack of depth last year is a myth. There were 10 guys averaging close to double digit minutes. If Branch and Harrison didn't miss so many games it wouldn't even be discussed. This year's team just happens to be deeper and has added even more talent and bulk.

There's not many guys that can do all the things Dom can, Marco and Max can do exactly none of the things Dom can. If Dom's out I'd sooner see Felix, Phil or Christian in the game. You can't replace your all around glue guy with a spot up shooter-period and expect similar results.

Lipscomb playing fifteen minutes against Virginia showed a lack of depth.
 
IIRC, Lipscomb got the start over Bourgault.

We had an available body. Lavin didn't want to use him though.

Being that Marco can't play guard I doubt he was considered. Obviously with Dlo and Felix out there were only 3 guards left, 2 1/2 if you look at how Jamal played after the leg injury.
 
Lipscomb's dad coaches a lot of talent year in and year out, and has a star big man on the current roster. Sometimes you need to read between the lines.
 
That's nice to hear. Maybe he will balance out Dlo

I've never met Dlo, but it has been said that he is very respectful. On court & off court personalities are completely different

I've heard he's a bright kid and a good student. His competitive nature is what gives him problems in games. Why there are problems in practice, I can't figure.

Yeah he was recently named to the Big East Honor Roll.

I remain very high on D-Lo. Let's remember, this is an era where these kids are told they are the greatest from 12 years old. There's 10 articles per day about milennials and the entitlement generation. There are tons - tons - of coaches/programs that would have told D-Lo everything he wanted to hear and welcomed him with open arms. That would have been the path of least resistence.

Instead D-Lo showed perserverence and stayed with a coach/program who has held him accountable (which stands in contrast to the complaints about his generation). To me this speaks volumes about his character. It doesn't excuse any past transgressions or eliminate the possibility of future issues, but for the time being it is commendable and a reason for optimism about where his career and contributions to this team are heading, not doubt regarding same.

Let's also not allow the suspension and his play the 2nd half of last year to cloud how good he can be. We can pull up legitimate conversations from March 2012 threads about whether or not Harkless was the best rookie on his own team because of how good Harrison had been. He followed that up by getting 20 or more in 13 of our first 20 games last year. Things did not go particularly well from there, and he like everybody else has things in his game he can work on (efficiency). But the fact remains he has shown an ability to be one the better scorers in the conference and can do so in a variety of ways. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do for this team with a full compliment of depth and talent around him for the first time since he came to SJU.

FWIW there are tons of humble millenials. In fact, the way the job market is these days, student loans, and the catch-22 of applying for entry level jobs only to find out they want someone with 5 years experience, yet you can't get experience without being hired in the first place tells a very different tale. If any generation has been humbled, it's us fighting for $9/hour jobs even though we have BA's and are in graduate school and it takes $50 to fill a 4 cylinder Honda Civic. Life as youth in the previous generation seems like Disney World to most of us. Jobs plentiful, cheap gas, low requirements for jobs (BA was a big deal), lower housing prices, much cheaper tuition, not as much outsourcing, etc. Now I have a plan so I will be fine and don't want to come off like I'm whining, but it's bleak out here for many young people so I take issue with the stereotype of my generation being spoiled rotten, lazy, and pampered. Didn't want to go off topic, but hey someone else brought it up and I'm just responding.

As for D'Lo I think he's just too good to be bad for 2 years in a row. He seems like he matured a lot and has his priorities straight. If he can just learn to breathe and stop letting refs among other things get his blood boiling, he will be fine. He's due for a monster year.
 
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