Obekpa's Next Move

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I agree with you completely but wish to state, and I am unaware of the reasons for his requested transfer, his best move is to crawl back on his hands and knees and ask Coach Mullin and the AD to be part of the team going forward and be kept on a very short leash. Both parties could benefit.
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I happen to agree with you. My biggest concern in that scenario is whether or not CO has the maturity level to accept the error of his ways and to actually follow through on whatever commitment he makes to Chris and his teammates. Granted he'd have a very very very short leash, but the last thing we need is an episode during the season after CO has an established roll on the team. Guess I'm somewhat on the fence.
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I agree with what Monte and redmanorth write. I also agree with what everyone else writes;

It's like the ( intended to be witty, sarcastic whatever) story - that every lawyer has heard - of the judge saying, after closing argument, the defense was right, the prosecutor was right - and when questioned by the court clerk about the apparent impossibility of both being "right"- the judge responds to the clerk "you know you're right"!
So here's the story.

I'd take him back, give him minimal to fair minutes off the bench because SJU has nothing to lose BECAUSE Chris Mullin, if anyone, can handle CO.
It's like who was that Yankee pitcher Howe and Billy Martin who had endless chances - Richard Burton (Grover Cleveland :silly: Frank Morgan*** whom as the great Wizard of Oz played many roles in that glorious movie)-
CO hasn't had THAT many chances/reprieves/roles and I'd give him ONE single more - under the auspices of Coach Mullin in whom we trust.

Then again it's 1:50 am and maybe I'm dreaming as I post :)
I'd take him back after his crawl - low crawl for those who have been in the Army.
Thanks for listening. Back to sleep. GO ST JOHNS. Whether CO returns or not: Good times are here again!


*** buried in brooklyn's Greenwood Cemetery under his real name Frank Wupperman.
 
Passport time
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I agree with you completely but wish to state, and I am unaware of the reasons for his requested transfer, his best move is to crawl back on his hands and knees and ask Coach Mullin and the AD to be part of the team going forward and be kept on a very short leash. Both parties could benefit.
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I happen to agree with you. My biggest concern in that scenario is whether or not CO has the maturity level to accept the error of his ways and to actually follow through on whatever commitment he makes to Chris and his teammates. Granted he'd have a very very very short leash, but the last thing we need is an episode during the season after CO has an established roll on the team. Guess I'm somewhat on the fence.
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I agree with what Monte and redmanorth write. I also agree with what everyone else writes;

It's like the ( intended to be witty, sarcastic whatever) story - that every lawyer has heard - of the judge saying, after closing argument, the defense was right, the prosecutor was right - and when questioned by the court clerk about the apparent impossibility of both being "right"- the judge responds to the clerk "you know you're right"!
So here's the story.

I'd take him back, give him minimal to fair minutes off the bench because SJU has nothing to lose BECAUSE Chris Mullin, if anyone, can handle CO.
It's like who was that Yankee pitcher Howe and Billy Martin who had endless chances - Richard Burton (Grover Cleveland :silly: Frank Morgan*** whom as the great Wizard of Oz played many roles in that glorious movie)-
CO hasn't had THAT many chances/reprieves/roles and I'd give him ONE single more - under the auspices of Coach Mullin in whom we trust.

Then again it's 1:50 am and maybe I'm dreaming as I post :)
I'd take him back after his crawl - low crawl for those who have been in the Army.
Thanks for listening. Back to sleep. GO ST JOHNS. Whether CO returns or not: Good times are here again!


*** buried in brooklyn's Greenwood Cemetery under his real name Frank Wupperman.
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I would bring him back tomorrow if the opportunity presented itself.

For starters, Obekpa will be a senior, so why not give him the chance to earn a degree? Unless he improves drastically on the offensive side, he doesn't have a future in basketball...but then at least he would have a degree to fall back on.

From a basketball standpoint, we are preparing for a rebuilding year next year anyways, so what could it hurt? He might add another win or 2 for the season, but thats it. He wasn't going to all of a sudden make us an NCAA bubble team. If he messes up and get suspended or something, what is really going to be the impact? We only have 13 wins instead of 15? Not a big deal.....

And finally, I honestly believe that everyone is making a much bigger deal out of his suspension than it probably really is. Did it cost us the SDSU game? Possibly. But what about us shooting 18% from three, and them shooting 19 more free throws then us. They were all contributing factors, but many people seem to be only focused on Obekpa and his suspension. And the truth of the matter is that no one really knows the details of his suspension. All we know is that he failed a drug test and got suspended. That really isn't alot of details. Maybe there is more to the story than that? It's hard to judge a situation when so little information was announced. For example, a good friend of mine was charged with aggravated assault (or something similar to that...I can't remember the exact charge). He beat the sh*t out of someone at a bar one night, and did some pretty good damage to that person. So it's on his record now and all that good stuff, and if you were to look at him and his record, all you would see is those charges. However, the reason he beat up that guy is because that individual was making inappropriate comments about his 23yr old daughter, and finally my friend had just had enough. Did he commit the crime that warranted those charges? Yes, but I don't think that there are too many people that blame him for what he did. I understand that these are two different situations, but my point is this. No one really knows all of the details of his suspension, so maybe we shouldn't be so quick to judge.
 
At this point, I would prefer to give the 'ship to one of the walk-ons (Elijah Holifield). CO had more than one chance to get an education and be a part of the team. I think in the best interest of both, CO & SJU, it's time to move forward.
 
The sad part about Obekpa is that he will be at the top of many SJU and Big East statistical categories for decades--perhaps forever. His blocked shots stats were out of this world. All he had to do was man-up and be a mature team player in 2015-2016, and he could have won everyone over and would have been remembered fondly. The kid had Harrison to emulate. We couldn't play a single game without that story being mentioned three times.

Sima, for as good as he could be, doesn't seem to have the type of game to even threaten those #s. Perhaps Bol Bol in 2019 :) Not a single letter in either of his names is not found in the word block.
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The sad part is that Obekpa was to blocked shots what Dave Kingman was to homeruns. One dimensional, and the rest of his game was subpar. Even as a man defender he was average to below average, and often out of position. His rebounding for someone his height and vertical leaping ability was poor. Offensively he stunk. His attitude was worse.

You are right about one thing - because this is college and we love to love our players, if he stayed out of trouble he would have been fondly remembered.
 
@JonRothstein: St. John's transfer Chris Obekpa will visit UNLV on August 3rd and 4th, source told @CBSSports. One year of eligibility remaining.
 
UNLV didn't even want diva Birch around anymore, and he gave them more points and rebounds than Obekpa would.
 
He will never play for them or any other college squad.
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What makes you say that? Because he failed a drug test (one that none of us know any details about)? Going by the numbers, DLo was suspended more in his career than Obekpa...
 
He will never play for them or any other college squad.
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What makes you say that? Because he failed a drug test (one that none of us know any details about)? Going by the numbers, DLo was suspended more in his career than Obekpa...
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I say that because every year he flirted with declaring for a draft that he would not be part of and he was ultimately unable to keep himself eligible academically. I will be shocked if he suddenly develops the discipline to become eligible again, as I'm sure he will have voices in his ear talking to him about his "future". We will see a year from now if I am right.
 
He will never play for them or any other college squad.
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What makes you say that? Because he failed a drug test (one that none of us know any details about)? Going by the numbers, DLo was suspended more in his career than Obekpa...
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I say that because every year he flirted with declaring for a draft that he would not be part of and he was ultimately unable to keep himself eligible academically. I will be shocked if he suddenly develops the discipline to become eligible again, as I'm sure he will have voices in his ear talking to him about his "future". We will see a year from now if I am right.
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Help me out on this...when was Obekpa academically ineligible?
 
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