Obekpa Suspended

[Redmen07]

Is there any chance we could get the University board of trustees to re-evaluate Obekpa's suspension? Make the punishment fit the crime is all I'm asking. One instance of doing something that's legal in two states and DC should not eliminate 3 years of work. Do what Ohio St. has been doing for years and suspend him for the first few games next season.. Or sit him for the 1st half of game one. Does anyone on this board have contact where we could go over Monash's head and get this straightened out? How about and appeal process where the hearing wouldn't occur till late April, raise questing of tampering with the test, something, anything!

When SJU lost to DUKE in January at MSG I walked out of the garden demanding a re-match with Duke in the tournament with a healthy team. Which if SJU beats San Diego State in round one they will get their chance. However without Obekpa, Okafor will have a field day and Duke would crush SJU (who will likely lose in round one now). I understand having principles but SJU is not BYU, or Princeton suspend the kid for a team dinner and a couple games next year(like Ohio St does in football all the time during big games). Totally BS policy and stupid move by the kid who knew he was going to be drug tested.

Best part of this is Coach K played a known serial rapist for a year and a half but SJU sits a kid immediately for doing something legal in 2 states and DC.

 

[ZanMan]

I would really be pissed off ,if we have him on our team next year. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

A lot people here said the same thing about DLo a few years ago. It's ridiculous! He turned his life around and became one of the best in school history. I'm proud to have had DLo represent my school. I we threw him away, everything, including his life is very different today.

We do need CO and will be a better team with him. He didn't murder someone. I don't get this hatred from some posters here. Yes, what he did was selfish and stupid, ALLEGEDLY. But maybe we should here what actually happened and see how he reacts to it?

We are a Catholic University. Forgiveness should be in our vocabulary.

I'd want him back but with Chris this has been going on for 3 years now and at the worst possible times. I've never seen DLo refuse to go back into a game (like CO in BET last year). DLo did some stupid stuff but he always tried to win at least.

Adam, I get what you're saying and you are right. But, we can't afford to lose a valuable player like him. If he was willing to finally grow up and is truly sorry, I want him back. Next incident, cut him loose and make sure he knows that he is now batting with 2 strikes.

However, if I'm Coach and in talking with him see no remorse and no desire to change, I'd then cut him loose.

I just think we don't know enough about what happened and we are projecting and assuming way too much.

 

[simplyred]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

 

[logen]

I'm not scanning through 32 pages, he got suspended for weed?

I'm not a Lavin apologist, but how is this his fault? If this is true, this bozo goes out and gets high before his (probable) only NCAA Tournament?? What the eff was/is he thinking?

Was the Pittsburgh strip club incident at least partly Jarvis' fault?

This is what it's come to? It's not Obekpa's fault? He smoked the weed. It was an instant gratification move on his part. I'm assuming there was no gun to his head and considering he's the only one suspended, he didn't puff it with anyone else on the team.

I wouldn't miss Lavin one bit, but blaming him for this is a mistake. CO made a stupid decision, one he'll have to live with the rest of his life.

I blame him more for the culture then for the actual act. There's been a pattern.

I don't even know what to say to this. Unless Lavin rolled it and shotgunned into his mouth or packed the bowl and said "smoke this ish or else," I'm not blaming him.

I'm sorry. People have to still be accountable for their own actions. I know society always needs a scapegoat, and God knows Lavin can be blamed for other things (or his inability to coach properly) but this is ALL Obekpa's fault.

He smoked (allegedly, I guess), he knew what was at stake, and he had his greatest game ahead of him and HE STILL DID IT. Not Lavin, OBEKPA did it. He cost himself and, probably, cost the entire team. Selfish. Point blank

Agree with everything you're saying other than to give Lavin a complete pass on this. When my kids-20 and 16 years old-do something stupid I blame them, but I also take partial blame as the parent. So maybe its just my perspective on things.

It's not only what he did, but when he did it. He gets caught doing this in June after school is over, it doesn't bother me so much. Even in April or May after the season is over. But now he has affected the outcome of their season, and that's not forgivable. If any of my kids at that age do something like that, I'm not to blame, and I certainly would hold them fully accountable - not their roommates, friends, teachers, or coaches. Put the blame where blame belongs, and you're a better parent. Take some of the blame, and you're giving them a crutch.

Beast I said pretty much the exact same thing about the timing of this in another post. FWIW while I take some of the blame when my kids screw up, I don't share that with them. If my kid(s) continually screw up then the way I see it I didn't do such a good job as parent. But as I mentioned before, maybe that's just me.

I've always said to my kids, half seriously, before you get in the car with someone who is under the influence or feel unsafe in any way, call me. No matter where I am I will come get you or make sure you are safe. On the other hand, I've told them if they ever get arrested, don't call me.

Monte, I understand what you are saying, but as parents we are only one part of our children's environment, and not responsible for their actions. You are responsible for teaching them right from wrong, for providing for them opportunities that perhaps we didn't have, and for disciplining them when they step out of line. If you are a poor example, as in do as I say but not as I do, then, yea are somewhat accountable when they do some of the things you do and it gets them in trouble. But at some point, you're not to blame. I have friends who have worked hard as parents, and have problem children - not their fault. On the other hand, almost all of my social activities revolve around my family. I rarely go to an SJU game without someone in my family, and that's the best part of it for me.

I realize you are talking your kids here so I am not being in any way flippant or disrespectful, I am commenting as a parent myself on real life not basketball.. You say you've told your kids not to call you if they get arrested but cops are people too and mistakes are made by all human beings. If your kids were arrested but are innocent of the charges wouldn't you want to be the one they turn to? Me, I feel differently, I agree almost entirely with your description of parenting in the last paragraph but I will be there for all members of my family regardless (11 brothers and sisters and countless nieces and nephews, etc.). Not saying either view is right or wrong at all; different strokes for different folks.

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not scanning through 32 pages, he got suspended for weed?

I'm not a Lavin apologist, but how is this his fault? If this is true, this bozo goes out and gets high before his (probable) only NCAA Tournament?? What the eff was/is he thinking?

Was the Pittsburgh strip club incident at least partly Jarvis' fault?

This is what it's come to? It's not Obekpa's fault? He smoked the weed. It was an instant gratification move on his part. I'm assuming there was no gun to his head and considering he's the only one suspended, he didn't puff it with anyone else on the team.

I wouldn't miss Lavin one bit, but blaming him for this is a mistake. CO made a stupid decision, one he'll have to live with the rest of his life.

I blame him more for the culture then for the actual act. There's been a pattern.

I don't even know what to say to this. Unless Lavin rolled it and shotgunned into his mouth or packed the bowl and said "smoke this ish or else," I'm not blaming him.

I'm sorry. People have to still be accountable for their own actions. I know society always needs a scapegoat, and God knows Lavin can be blamed for other things (or his inability to coach properly) but this is ALL Obekpa's fault.

He smoked (allegedly, I guess), he knew what was at stake, and he had his greatest game ahead of him and HE STILL DID IT. Not Lavin, OBEKPA did it. He cost himself and, probably, cost the entire team. Selfish. Point blank

Agree with everything you're saying other than to give Lavin a complete pass on this. When my kids-20 and 16 years old-do something stupid I blame them, but I also take partial blame as the parent. So maybe its just my perspective on things.

It's not only what he did, but when he did it. He gets caught doing this in June after school is over, it doesn't bother me so much. Even in April or May after the season is over. But now he has affected the outcome of their season, and that's not forgivable. If any of my kids at that age do something like that, I'm not to blame, and I certainly would hold them fully accountable - not their roommates, friends, teachers, or coaches. Put the blame where blame belongs, and you're a better parent. Take some of the blame, and you're giving them a crutch.

Beast I said pretty much the exact same thing about the timing of this in another post. FWIW while I take some of the blame when my kids screw up, I don't share that with them. If my kid(s) continually screw up then the way I see it I didn't do such a good job as parent. But as I mentioned before, maybe that's just me.

I've always said to my kids, half seriously, before you get in the car with someone who is under the influence or feel unsafe in any way, call me. No matter where I am I will come get you or make sure you are safe. On the other hand, I've told them if they ever get arrested, don't call me.

Monte, I understand what you are saying, but as parents we are only one part of our children's environment, and not responsible for their actions. You are responsible for teaching them right from wrong, for providing for them opportunities that perhaps we didn't have, and for disciplining them when they step out of line. If you are a poor example, as in do as I say but not as I do, then, yea are somewhat accountable when they do some of the things you do and it gets them in trouble. But at some point, you're not to blame. I have friends who have worked hard as parents, and have problem children - not their fault. On the other hand, almost all of my social activities revolve around my family. I rarely go to an SJU game without someone in my family, and that's the best part of it for me.

I realize you are talking your kids here so I am not being in any way flippant or disrespectful, I am commenting as a parent myself on real life not basketball.. You say you've told your kids not to call you if they get arrested but cops are people too and mistakes are made by all human beings. If your kids were arrested but are innocent of the charges wouldn't you want to be the one they turn to? Me, I feel differently, I agree almost entirely with your description of parenting in the last paragraph but I will be there for all members of my family regardless (11 brothers and sisters and countless nieces and nephews, etc.). Not saying either view is right or wrong at all; different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for your comments. Many of us are cut from the same cloth, so to speak. It's not so much as a literal dictum, but a warning to stay out of trouble, because there will be hell to pay

 

[Class of 72]

The only defense would be if this was a case of medical Marijuana too ease his pain.
Paging Ron Linfonte.

 

[paultzman]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

 

[stjohnschris]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

If that's the school policy, then it has to be followed. Anything less sets a bad example and precedent. Who knows, maybe this nationally publicized incident sets him on the right path. Lets face it, he was asking for disciplinary measures all year with his conduct, last year too. Our team will do just fine without him. We've been relying on outside shots and individual efforts all season, Friday is no different. If two or three of our guys step up big and hit their shots, we win, CO or no CO. If we choose to play 40 full minutes of defense and box out, we will beat SDSU.

 

[logen]

I have posted more than once (shocker) that this program is a train wreck. I didn't and don't say it lightly or without some insight. For many who don't remember I was one of the last to jump off Norm's bandwagon because he did all things the right way but in the end he just couldn't get the job done. Mt point is I am not a bomb thrower or one to not wait for ample evidence before making a decision or forming an opinion.
Take any incident out of context and blame the subordinates, take multiple incidents in total and blame the leader. The atmosphere around this program is obvious with all the well documented and public incidents; IMO it is a testimony to Lavin's PR ability and personality that the state of the program hs not brought him down yet. But all the apologists answer this; for all the problems gone public do you really believe there are none that have seen the light of day. There have been plenty, a train wreck's worth!!

Get over yourself. Your logic is so inconsistently applied that I can't decide whether it is comical or just downright sad. You're Mr. Throwback...ready to play hard in every game from the jump ball...old school to the core. Now, you are essentially blaming the teacher because the student screwed up? You, a former high school teacher and coach? How the hell is Lavin at all responsible for the decisions his kids make in their apartments/dorms on their own time. Not a single poster on this site hasn't done was Chris did. Not a single one. Are you naive enough to think this doesn't happen in every sport at every college...D-1, D-2, D-3, JUCO, and NAIA?

You should change your handle to the dumptruck, because you can't wait to pile it on Lavin. You hate the guy...we get it. Stick to things the guy can actually control if you want to know him.

I dump on Lavin because he has earned it , plain and simple. I seemingly dump on him constantly because he provides so many opportunities. One incident, two incidents fine. Constant, recurring, two or three a year, every year, and there is something rotten in Denmark. If you can't see that, fine, it just lowers my already low opinion of what is taught in prestigious universities these days; cause it sure isn't the ability to apply common sense and analyze facts clearly and objectively. .

 

[Marillac]

The thing I am having a hard time with is you are telling me of the 68 teams and roughly 1020 players Obekpa is the only guy that smokes weed?, Or got caught? Is tested?

Definitely not choice #1.
It's very difficult to get in trouble at many schools. Syracuse played guys that failed drug tests. That cannot be just a Syracuse thing.

 

[johnnycomelately]

cant agree with you here. I played in college back in the 80's (mid-low D1, with sporadic minutes) . The idea that I or any of my teammates would take any drugs, particularly during the season was so far off the radar as to be absurd to contemplate. It's a rule, plain and simple, that apparently 700-800 other players who are set to participate in the tournament did not violate . i have no issue with the punishment here. Trying to process how damaging this is to Lavin.

 

[logen]

I'm not scanning through 32 pages, he got suspended for weed?

I'm not a Lavin apologist, but how is this his fault? If this is true, this bozo goes out and gets high before his (probable) only NCAA Tournament?? What the eff was/is he thinking?

Was the Pittsburgh strip club incident at least partly Jarvis' fault?

This is what it's come to? It's not Obekpa's fault? He smoked the weed. It was an instant gratification move on his part. I'm assuming there was no gun to his head and considering he's the only one suspended, he didn't puff it with anyone else on the team.

I wouldn't miss Lavin one bit, but blaming him for this is a mistake. CO made a stupid decision, one he'll have to live with the rest of his life.

I blame him more for the culture then for the actual act. There's been a pattern.

I don't even know what to say to this. Unless Lavin rolled it and shotgunned into his mouth or packed the bowl and said "smoke this ish or else," I'm not blaming him.

I'm sorry. People have to still be accountable for their own actions. I know society always needs a scapegoat, and God knows Lavin can be blamed for other things (or his inability to coach properly) but this is ALL Obekpa's fault.

He smoked (allegedly, I guess), he knew what was at stake, and he had his greatest game ahead of him and HE STILL DID IT. Not Lavin, OBEKPA did it. He cost himself and, probably, cost the entire team. Selfish. Point blank

Agree with everything you're saying other than to give Lavin a complete pass on this. When my kids-20 and 16 years old-do something stupid I blame them, but I also take partial blame as the parent. So maybe its just my perspective on things.

It's not only what he did, but when he did it. He gets caught doing this in June after school is over, it doesn't bother me so much. Even in April or May after the season is over. But now he has affected the outcome of their season, and that's not forgivable. If any of my kids at that age do something like that, I'm not to blame, and I certainly would hold them fully accountable - not their roommates, friends, teachers, or coaches. Put the blame where blame belongs, and you're a better parent. Take some of the blame, and you're giving them a crutch.

Beast I said pretty much the exact same thing about the timing of this in another post. FWIW while I take some of the blame when my kids screw up, I don't share that with them. If my kid(s) continually screw up then the way I see it I didn't do such a good job as parent. But as I mentioned before, maybe that's just me.

I've always said to my kids, half seriously, before you get in the car with someone who is under the influence or feel unsafe in any way, call me. No matter where I am I will come get you or make sure you are safe. On the other hand, I've told them if they ever get arrested, don't call me.

Monte, I understand what you are saying, but as parents we are only one part of our children's environment, and not responsible for their actions. You are responsible for teaching them right from wrong, for providing for them opportunities that perhaps we didn't have, and for disciplining them when they step out of line. If you are a poor example, as in do as I say but not as I do, then, yea are somewhat accountable when they do some of the things you do and it gets them in trouble. But at some point, you're not to blame. I have friends who have worked hard as parents, and have problem children - not their fault. On the other hand, almost all of my social activities revolve around my family. I rarely go to an SJU game without someone in my family, and that's the best part of it for me.

I realize you are talking your kids here so I am not being in any way flippant or disrespectful, I am commenting as a parent myself on real life not basketball.. You say you've told your kids not to call you if they get arrested but cops are people too and mistakes are made by all human beings. If your kids were arrested but are innocent of the charges wouldn't you want to be the one they turn to? Me, I feel differently, I agree almost entirely with your description of parenting in the last paragraph but I will be there for all members of my family regardless (11 brothers and sisters and countless nieces and nephews, etc.). Not saying either view is right or wrong at all; different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for your comments. Many of us are cut from the same cloth, so to speak. It's not so much as a literal dictum, but a warning to stay out of trouble, because there will be hell to pay

Gotcha, I did what I always accuse you of doing, read your post and put my spin on it as a literal statement, my bad.

 

[ras]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

The only problem is, whos going to replace him?

 

[simplyred]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

The only problem is, whos going to replace him?

Caleb Swangan?

 

[Knight]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

The only problem is, whos going to replace him?

Balamou?

 

[Marillac]

I have posted more than once (shocker) that this program is a train wreck. I didn't and don't say it lightly or without some insight. For many who don't remember I was one of the last to jump off Norm's bandwagon because he did all things the right way but in the end he just couldn't get the job done. Mt point is I am not a bomb thrower or one to not wait for ample evidence before making a decision or forming an opinion.
Take any incident out of context and blame the subordinates, take multiple incidents in total and blame the leader. The atmosphere around this program is obvious with all the well documented and public incidents; IMO it is a testimony to Lavin's PR ability and personality that the state of the program hs not brought him down yet. But all the apologists answer this; for all the problems gone public do you really believe there are none that have seen the light of day. There have been plenty, a train wreck's worth!!

Get over yourself. Your logic is so inconsistently applied that I can't decide whether it is comical or just downright sad. You're Mr. Throwback...ready to play hard in every game from the jump ball...old school to the core. Now, you are essentially blaming the teacher because the student screwed up? You, a former high school teacher and coach? How the hell is Lavin at all responsible for the decisions his kids make in their apartments/dorms on their own time. Not a single poster on this site hasn't done was Chris did. Not a single one. Are you naive enough to think this doesn't happen in every sport at every college...D-1, D-2, D-3, JUCO, and NAIA?

You should change your handle to the dumptruck, because you can't wait to pile it on Lavin. You hate the guy...we get it. Stick to things the guy can actually control if you want to know him.

I dump on Lavin because he has earned it , plain and simple. I seemingly dump on him constantly because he provides so many opportunities. One incident, two incidents fine. Constant, recurring, two or three a year, every year, and there is something rotten in Denmark. If you can't see that, fine, it just lowers my already low opinion of what is taught in prestigious universities these days; cause it sure isn't the ability to apply common sense and analyze facts clearly and objectively. .

You are naive to think that incidents like these aren't purposely avoided (through suspect means) or completely covered up at big time schools. Look at the involvement of the campus AND Tallahassee police departments in the Jameis Winston rape case. That was a rape investigation. Look at how the Penn State admin tried to hide the molestation allegations, how Baylor tried covering up that horrendous, tragic situation a decade ago. Syracuse plays guys after they failed drug tests, and I'm sure there were many others warned with enough notice to allow the athlete to get a clean sample.

You have no idea how vile and insane the conduct of athletes at every level has become. The crap that coaches have to deal with on a daily basis...that is why I got away from it when I did. You have to babysit some of these kids and lecture them daily only to have them do whatever they want a few days (or hours later).

Lavin didn't have any more control over Chris smoking pot or drinking beer than my coach at SJU had over me sneaking my gf in to spend the night when girls were not allowed to be in a male student's room after 11 or 12.

 

[Red.Fans]

cant agree with you here. I played in college back in the 80's (mid-low D1, with sporadic minutes) . The idea that I or any of my teammates would take any drugs, particularly during the season was so far off the radar as to be absurd to contemplate. It's a rule, plain and simple, that apparently 700-800 other players who are set to participate in the tournament did not violate . i have no issue with the punishment here. Trying to process how damaging this is to Lavin.

Back in the good old days of college basketball that you were fortunate enough to be a part of (80s) Villanova famously won the National Championship with key players later admitting to using cocaine during the Tournament and the starting point guard also admitting to selling it.

 

[Class of 72]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

It may not be an issue of no more Mulligans for Chris Obekpa if the staff is replaced but if they stay it will be totally his decision. No way Lavin pulls his scholarship. The pity is he is a good student and just extremely immature and emotional just as Harrison and Pointer were before this year. What is sad is that African students tend to be good citizens and good students with instilled family pride and values. I am sure Chris feels badly that he has disappointed his family and teammates with his latest immature act.
His future is in hands and others less intelligent and with similar or worse histories got many more chances than they deserved. I am sure you remember Lamar Odom. Bob Oliva and CTK kept him eligible for 3 years while he had the reading level of a 5th grader. Even St. John's could not get him admitted academically as hard as Ron Artest tried to get his pal committed to us. Here is a blurb from his Wiki profile. I know Chris is not a quarter of the natural talent of Lamar but there are 3rd chances.

" In 1997, Odom attended the University of Nevada at Las Vegas and enrolled in summer classes. However, after a Sports Illustrated report questioned his unexpectedly high score of 22 out of 36 in the ACT, the school released him in July. That same summer, he received a citation for soliciting prostitution following an undercover operation by the Las Vegas police.[11] Later, an NCAA inquiry found Odom received payments amounting to $5,600 from booster David Chapman.[12] Coach Bill Bayno was fired and UNLV was placed on probation for four years.[13] Odom transferred to the University of Rhode Island but was forced to sit out the 1997–98 season "

 

[OLV72]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

No one advocated a cover up. If this is the NCAA policy it needs a change. This is equal to the Mets and yanks playing by their own rules on drug usage.

 

[paultzman]

Chris has a history now of letting the team down in crucial spots. His situation is vastly different from D'lo.

As for reversing the suspension, the NCAA policy on the situation is that the school is obligated to enforce the policy that it has in pkace. The policy that the school has in place, written in black and white, is that there will be a 2 week suspension for a second positive test. I'm guessing this is his second positive test.

I'm just floored by the people who are saying that the school should have covered this up. I'm no Saint and I don't try to preach morality to anyone, but come on! Really? After all the crap that we spewed against Boeheim just last week?

Right on all counts. No do overs. Expect Obekpa to be gone btw.

No one advocated a cover up. If this is the NCAA policy it needs a change. This is equal to the Mets and yanks playing by their own rules on drug usage.

Time to move on. & try to win a game. Doubt in our little universe we will be change agents re: NCAA policies. Btw, either here or on JJ, some guys did suggest what Simply Red implied.