NY YANKEES - 2021

SJUFAN2 post=435534 said:
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SJU61982 post=435512 said:
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
I missed the game.   Can you elaborate on this?  Did something happen that would have endangered the players?   Was there a fight?   

Anyone? 
No, no fights.

Just a general point about the Red Sox being so up, and us being so down, that it was snowballing.
Oh.   So you just wanted them to walk off the field and forfeit?  


 
If it got much worse then it looked like it was going to be, then yes.  They actually sent the tying run up in the 7th, so that didn't happen, but it looked like we were heading for a 15 run loss for a bit there, and at some point, if that happened, I would have pulled the plug.
 
Where have you seen any pro team in any sport pull the team off the field because they were getting their asses kicked? That may be what you would do but no sane manager or coach would even consider doing that.
 
bamafan post=435550 said:
Where have you seen any pro team in any sport pull the team off the field because they were getting their asses kicked? That may be what you would do but no sane manager or coach would even consider doing that.
It would be unprecedented, and FTR, it didn't get anywhere close to that point today, but man it just looked like playing this game, especially in the early innings, was doing the team no good (and doing the Red Sox a lot of good) in ways that went beyond the scoreboard.
 
SJU61982 post=435540 said:
SJUFAN2 post=435534 said:
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SJUFAN2 post=435531 said:
SJU61982 post=435512 said:
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
I missed the game.   Can you elaborate on this?  Did something happen that would have endangered the players?   Was there a fight?   

Anyone? 
No, no fights.

Just a general point about the Red Sox being so up, and us being so down, that it was snowballing.
Oh.   So you just wanted them to walk off the field and forfeit?  




 
If it got much worse then it looked like it was going to be, then yes.  They actually sent the tying run up in the 7th, so that didn't happen, but it looked like we were heading for a 15 run loss for a bit there, and at some point, if that happened, I would have pulled the plug.


 
THE flagship sports franchise on a global level.  27 Championships and 40 AL pennants in a 110 years.   50+ players & personnel in the HOF...
And you want them to walk off the field and quit because in the midst of a RARE bad year they were getting their asses kicked by their rival??

The absurdity of that suggestion is off the charts and only serves to reaffirm the opinion the rest of the baseball universe has that many of my fellow Yankee fans are spoiled beyond belief.   


 
 
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game 77.
broken record time - the yankee starter gets rocked again. spin that.
redsox vs yankees.
sox score many more runs.
sox team speed way better than yanks.
sox infield defense way better than yanks infield.
sox outfield has arms. yanks have judge.
but sox have adam oh no, yanks have kriske.
sox have verdugo. yanks have red thunder and gardy.
i believe gardy was signed on one of the last days of spring training.
i guess the yanks looked around and picked up one of the few available crumbs.
game turned when with bases loaded and one out, dj ked looking, then #99 popped out.
time is tick tocking away, before you know its the start of another game.
 
section10 post=435558 said:
game 77.
broken record time - the yankee starter gets rocked again. spin that.
redsox vs yankees.
sox score many more runs.
sox team speed way better than yanks.
sox infield defense way better than yanks infield.
sox outfield has arms. yanks have judge.
but sox have adam oh no, yanks have kriske.
sox have verdugo. yanks have red thunder and gardy.
i believe gardy was signed on one of the last days of spring training.
i guess the yanks looked around and picked up one of the few available crumbs.
game turned when with bases loaded and one out, dj ked looking, then #99 popped out.
time is tick tocking away, before you know its the start of another game.
I think you should do each of these write ups as a Haiku Poem.
 
I don't see this happening this year.  I mean you are struggling and now you lose 3 straight starts from your ace-Cole.  Get swept AGAIN by the Red Sox.  And the pitcher they had out there yesterday for crying out loud SUCKS.  I mean you have your stud, they put out a sacrificial lamb, you need the game BADLY to avoid a sweep and you lose worse then you did the first 2 games?

This is starting to remind me of the Mets in 2015 with their pitching staff wrt to the Torres, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Frazier etc.  The Mets had the staff for the next 10 years (Harvey, Syndergaard, Matz and DeGrom).  Never ultimately materialized and DeGrom is the only one that has lived up to and surpassed the potential.  The Yankees looked like they had a core that was going to dominate the AL.  Now?
 
fordham96 post=435569 said:
I don't see this happening this year.  I mean you are struggling and now you lose 3 straight starts from your ace-Cole.  Get swept AGAIN by the Red Sox.  And the pitcher they had out there yesterday for crying out loud SUCKS.  I mean you have your stud, they put out a sacrificial lamb, you need the game BADLY to avoid a sweep and you lose worse then you did the first 2 games?

This is starting to remind me of the Mets in 2015 with their pitching staff wrt to the Torres, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Frazier etc.  The Mets had the staff for the next 10 years (Harvey, Syndergaard, Matz and DeGrom).  Never ultimately materialized and DeGrom is the only one that has lived up to and surpassed the potential.  The Yankees looked like they had a core that was going to dominate the AL.  Now?
I almost wonder if the worst thing to happen was that we tried to tank in 2017 (and the last two months of 2016), and didn't do so.  Because of that, we had to trade most of the assets we got in those deals (not to mention the fact that James Kapriliean, who we had, was traded for Sonny Gray, when we decided to go for it the next year), and are now pretty much stuck with what we have.

If we had lost after making those trades, we'd not only would have acquired what we did, but the draft would have almost certainly given us a larger group of prospects with which to work, so even if we traded some, we'd probably still have a better core of good young players, or at least, a deeper one.

Of course, no one was thinking like this at the time.  I was probably the head cheerleader of the fact that we didn't have to go in the tank to rebuild.  But, looking back now, those results might have had a better long-term effect.
 
 
SJU61982 post=435570 said:
fordham96 post=435569 said:
I don't see this happening this year.  I mean you are struggling and now you lose 3 straight starts from your ace-Cole.  Get swept AGAIN by the Red Sox.  And the pitcher they had out there yesterday for crying out loud SUCKS.  I mean you have your stud, they put out a sacrificial lamb, you need the game BADLY to avoid a sweep and you lose worse then you did the first 2 games?

This is starting to remind me of the Mets in 2015 with their pitching staff wrt to the Torres, Sanchez, Judge, Andujar, Frazier etc.  The Mets had the staff for the next 10 years (Harvey, Syndergaard, Matz and DeGrom).  Never ultimately materialized and DeGrom is the only one that has lived up to and surpassed the potential.  The Yankees looked like they had a core that was going to dominate the AL.  Now?
I almost wonder if the worst thing to happen was that we tried to tank in 2017 (and the last two months of 2016), and didn't do so.  Because of that, we had to trade most of the assets we got in those deals (not to mention the fact that James Kapriliean, who we had, was traded for Sonny Gray, when we decided to go for it the next year), and are now pretty much stuck with what we have.

If we had lost after making those trades, we'd not only would have acquired what we did, but the draft would have almost certainly given us a larger group of prospects with which to work, so even if we traded some, we'd probably still have a better core of good young players, or at least, a deeper one.

Of course, no one was thinking like this at the time.  I was probably the head cheerleader of the fact that we didn't have to go in the tank to rebuild.  But, looking back now, those results might have had a better long-term effect.

 

Was waiting for someone to bring up Kaprellian.  He's been a walking medical chart since the trade.  This is literally his first healthy season since the trade.  Only pitched over 60 innings once since the trade.  Yankee fans would have long given up on him whether it was the bad Sonny Gray trade or someone else after.  They traded 3 players in that deal only now is Kaprellian showing something. Fowler and Mateo have since been moved to other teams and not batting their weight 
 
How about 2 years ago when people were speculating on what it would take for the Yankees to get DeGrom from the Mets.  Everyone agreed they would have to overpay and the first player the Mets would ask for is Torres and that would make the Yankees stop right there....

What has happened to Gleyber Torres?
 
Maybe Boone and Cashman getting extensions of their contracts will turn the tide.
 
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Just another L for the losers. Man, King is bad. Always in a quick hole when he's on the mound. DJLM caught the Yankees sickness today. Every day it's something else. At bats once again a big problem. I've never seen a ML team so bad at fundamentals. Once again in the post game  Boone has no clue how to fix this mess.
 
I know baseball is a game where you have to play relaxed but maybe the players are taking advantage of Boone's easy going demeanor and aren't putting in the work and taking care of themselves off the field. In any case they may need a collective kick in the ass to get going. May be time or close to it to make a change with Boone, shake things up. He doesn't even try juggling the line up just to change things up. Continue to do the same things with same results. Give him some sort of ultimatum-win approximately this many games over this period of time or a change will be made. Time or it is fast approaching to show some sort of urgency. 
 
bamafan post=435611 said:
I know baseball is a game where you have to play relaxed but maybe the players are taking advantage of Boone's easy going demeanor and aren't putting in the work and taking care of themselves off the field. In any case they may need a collective kick in the ass to get going. May be time or close to it to make a change with Boone, shake things up. He doesn't even try juggling the line up just to change things up. Continue to do the same things with same results. Give him some sort of ultimatum-win approximately this many games over this period of time or a change will be made. Time or it is fast approaching to show some sort of urgency. 
What changes in the lineup is he going to make?  

He only has four bench players.  One is the backup catcher, one is a second baseman who can't field and is batting under .200, and another is a very fast guy who can't steal first (Wade).

Just changing the order probably won't accomplish much.  In an American League lineup, it's nearly impossible to hide your struggling hitter.
 
SJU61982 post=435613 said:
bamafan post=435611 said:
I know baseball is a game where you have to play relaxed but maybe the players are taking advantage of Boone's easy going demeanor and aren't putting in the work and taking care of themselves off the field. In any case they may need a collective kick in the ass to get going. May be time or close to it to make a change with Boone, shake things up. He doesn't even try juggling the line up just to change things up. Continue to do the same things with same results. Give him some sort of ultimatum-win approximately this many games over this period of time or a change will be made. Time or it is fast approaching to show some sort of urgency. 
What changes in the lineup is he going to make?  

He only has four bench players.  One is the backup catcher, one is a second baseman who can't field and is batting under .200, and another is a very fast guy who can't steal first (Wade).

Just changing the order probably won't accomplish much.  In an American League lineup, it's nearly impossible to hide your struggling hitter.

They used to invert the line up or pick the line up out of a hat. It might loosen the players up. Do something, anything, manage the game in your skivvies. Beats walking off the field at least in most people's opinion.
 
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Unfortuantelybamafan post=435611 said:
I know baseball is a game where you have to play relaxed but maybe the players are taking advantage of Boone's easy going demeanor and aren't putting in the work and taking care of themselves off the field. In any case they may need a collective kick in the ass to get going. May be time or close to it to make a change with Boone, shake things up. He doesn't even try juggling the line up just to change things up. Continue to do the same things with same results. Give him some sort of ultimatum-win approximately this many games over this period of time or a change will be made. Time or it is fast approaching to show some sort of urgency. 
Unfortunately, Billy Martin is not currently available, but I generally agree with you. 
 
Front office is the origin of this flop.  Cashman hired the manager and assembled these players.
Time to fire the boss.
 
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