NY YANKEES - 2021

This entire team seems to have collectively lost the ability to hit the ball in the air.  It's been going on all season.  They are 3 lefties short in that lineup, at least.

Also, it's not why were losing this game, but someone needs to tell the HP umpire that not every pitch Nathan Eovaldi throws is automatically a strike.

 
 
Not a Montgomery fan, but he was a victim of some soft hits and shoddy defense. Some of which was his own. Team is so damn streaky at the plate, which results in so many holes in this lineup. Torres and Gardner have become unwatchable. How long before Sanchez is back striking out. And of course we have Stanton,  although I wish we didn't. Never understood why Yanks gave up on Eovaldi so quickly. He had a big chip on his shoulder when he faces the Yanks. Red Sux seem to consistently put the ball in play. Yanks are great at striking out, hitting into double plays, running the bases poorly, playing bad defense. And what the heck was Voit doing not coming up throwing home on the pop fly in foul territory? Too much bad baseball IQ for my liking. Starts at the top. 
 
A other lost weekend and lost series. Team is just not good enough to beat good teams consistently. 
Can't stand looking at Cora, that effing cheater. You know he loved throwing Ottavino a 3rd straight day and sticking in the Yankees faces. 
 
This loss is a microcosm of the season.  Leave 5 guys on base in last two innings.

Cannot get a big hit and the run production is bad.

I thought they needed to take 2 out of 3 to realistically think they have a shot to overtake Bos and TB.

Now I just don't see it.
 
fordham96 post=435493 said:
This loss is a microcosm of the season.  Leave 5 guys on base in last two innings.

Cannot get a big hit and the run production is bad.

I thought they needed to take 2 out of 3 to realistically think they have a shot to overtake Bos and TB.

Now I just don't see it.
One of the reasons we've been leaving guys on base lately, is because it seems like we don't put them out there until two outs in the inning.  Yes, we left the bases loaded in the 8th, but we didn't put any of them on until there were two outs.  Hard to score runs that way.

Even good 2 out hitting teams (which we are not) generally put the runners on before 2 men are out.

I think we need to score first tomorrow.  That might not mean anything in the end, because Boston can come back, but the Sox have done a good job getting the jump on us in most of the games this year (especially these two games), and we've never really recovered from that.  So, while us scoring first may not mean much, them scoring first could be devestating.
 
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Jeff Smith post=435487 said:
Like to send all non SJU posts off this site.

Like to see posters read the forums they want to read and stay off the ones they don't.
 
game 76.
monty pitched well. the mlb gods were not kind to him.
4 infield singles lead to the first 3 runs plus
voit took 7 (seven) steps after catching foul ball to throw late to home plate plus
dj took 2 steps before throwing to first as a runner crossed home plate plus.
3 of boston's runs scored on sac flies. plus ball off #99's glove for a double.
but chiseled on the 2021 yankee tombstone will read ri(s)p and not rip.  
as noted earlier, 5 left on base in last 2 innings.
it hurt seeing adam oh no get the last outs.
 
YANKEES:
LeMahieu 2B
Judge CF
Voit 1B
Stanton DH
Urshela 3B
Torres SS
Andujar LF
Frazier RF
Higashioka C

Boston:
Hernandez CF
Verdugo LF
Martinez DH
Boegarts SS
Devers 3B
Renfroe RF
Vazquez C
Gonzalez 2B
Santana 1B
 
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
 
I'll tell you what, for a bad defensive team, the Red Sox have made more then their share of great plays against us.  One to end each of the last two innings, including a bare-hand catch by the first baseman to get Torres to end the fourth.

Like I said in the last post, Boone should pull the team.  Nothing good comes out of playing the rest of this game, IMO.
 
As I said during the offseason, I like Brett Gardner but bringing him back was a mistake.  There is a strange love affair that the team and many fans have with Gardner and it has not served us well.

Now we're faced with a decision to waive him or live with a 38 year old who is hitting .198 with 2 HRs and an anemic .304 on-base-percentage.

Let's wish Gardner well and respectfully let him go.
 
 
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JohnnyFan post=435522 said:
As I said during the offseason, I like Brett Gardner but bringing him back was a mistake.  There is a strange love affair that the team and many fans have with Gardner and it has not served us well.

Now we're faced with a decision to waive him or live with a 38 year old who is hitting .198 with 2 HRs and an anemic .304 on-base-percentage.

Let's wish Gardner well and respectfully let him go.



 
Gardner only played one game in this series.  Ironically, it seems like we have a better record when he and/or Odor start (at least one of them, but usually both).  As bad as they are, they are lefties, and I wonder if that throws pitchers off a bit.  We may have to tolerate their presence in the lineup, because the all-righty lineup just looks too easy to pitch to, even if they are more talented.  

That being said, Gardner appears to still have great heart and desire, just no ability any more.

The big mistake, IMO, was letting Didi go two offeseasons ago, then insisting that Torres could replace him at SS.  It took a lefty bat out of our lineup, and weakened us defensively up the middle, and it just seems to have destroyed Torres's confidence.  Worse, they want to show that they still have confidence in him, that they're still leaving him out there, and they may be destroying him, as a player in the process.  

Worse, they did that to save money on the luxury tax next year with Chapman (picking up the option for Chapman next year gave him less AAV), but how valuable can Chapman be if we don't have a lead?  Sometimes, you can't look at it in dollars and cents.  It's what's best for the team that's important.

They need to sign one of the free agent shortstops this offseason, move Gleyber back to second base, and trade one of Urshela or Voit, preferably for pitching.  Then, you just move DJ to whichever corner spot opens up, and the other is still here.

The problem is that the two shortstops I really like are Baez and Seager, but I think they will re-sign with their current teams.  That leaves Story and Correa, neither one of which excites me giving big money for a lot of years to (short term?  of course).  But, that would still make us a better team then we are now.

 
 
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SJU61982 post=435523 said:
JohnnyFan post=435522 said:
As I said during the offseason, I like Brett Gardner but bringing him back was a mistake.  There is a strange love affair that the team and many fans have with Gardner and it has not served us well.

Now we're faced with a decision to waive him or live with a 38 year old who is hitting .198 with 2 HRs and an anemic .304 on-base-percentage.

Let's wish Gardner well and respectfully let him go.



 
Gardner only played one game in this series.  Ironically, it seems like we have a better record when he and/or Odor start (at least one of them, but usually both).  As bad as they are, they are lefties, and I wonder if that throws pitchers off a bit.  We may have to tolerate their presence in the lineup, because the all-righty lineup just looks too easy to pitch to, even if they are more talented.  

That being said, Gardner appears to still have great heart and desire, just no ability any more.

The big mistake, IMO, was letting Didi go two offeseasons ago, then insisting that Torres could replace him at SS.  It took a lefty bat out of our lineup, and weakened us defensively up the middle, and it just seems to have destroyed Torres's confidence.  Worse, they want to show that they still have confidence in him, that they're still leaving him out there, and they may be destroying him, as a player in the process.  

Worse, they did that to save money on the luxury tax next year with Chapman (picking up the option for Chapman next year gave him less AAV), but how valuable can Chapman be if we don't have a lead?  Sometimes, you can't look at it in dollars and sense.  It's what's best for the team that's important.

They need to sign one of the free agent shortstops this offseason, move Gleyber back to second base, and trade one of Urshela or Voit, preferably for pitching.  Then, you just move DJ to whichever corner spot opens up, and the other is still here.

The problem is that the two shortstops I really like are Baez and Seager, but I think they will re-sign with their current teams.  That leaves Story and Correa, neither one of which excites me giving big money for a lot of years to (short term?  of course).  But, that would still make us a better team then we are now.


 

I agree with you on Didi.  Only issue is that he misses a lot of time due to injury. 

Yes, Gardner still has heart and hustles which is why everyone loves him.  That said......it's time.  This is a business and he is done.  I am sure we can find a young lefty to hit above .200
 
 
At this point, the Yankees are beyond pathetic.  Embarrassing for sure. Lethargic effort, starting on the mound. Really bad pitches by Cole. Yanks lost to a starter with a 6 ERA. This team never looks prepared. Again, that's the Manager. Too many guys playing out of position. Red Sux running on outfielders, infielders and catchers all weekend. Zero sense of urgency on this team. No true leader. It is time for a big change. Boone keeps saying they believe they are a great team. No clue.
 
SJU61982 post=435512 said:
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
I missed the game.   Can you elaborate on this?  Did something happen that would have endangered the players?   Was there a fight?   

Anyone? 
 
SJUFAN2 post=435531 said:
SJU61982 post=435512 said:
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
I missed the game.   Can you elaborate on this?  Did something happen that would have endangered the players?   Was there a fight?   

Anyone? 
No, no fights.

Just a general point about the Red Sox being so up, and us being so down, that it was snowballing.
 
SJU61982 post=435533 said:
SJUFAN2 post=435531 said:
SJU61982 post=435512 said:
We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.

As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar.  At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
I missed the game.   Can you elaborate on this?  Did something happen that would have endangered the players?   Was there a fight?   

Anyone? 
No, no fights.

Just a general point about the Red Sox being so up, and us being so down, that it was snowballing.
Oh.   So you just wanted them to walk off the field and forfeit?  

 
 
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