One of the reasons we've been leaving guys on base lately, is because it seems like we don't put them out there until two outs in the inning. Yes, we left the bases loaded in the 8th, but we didn't put any of them on until there were two outs. Hard to score runs that way.fordham96 post=435493 said:This loss is a microcosm of the season. Leave 5 guys on base in last two innings.
Cannot get a big hit and the run production is bad.
I thought they needed to take 2 out of 3 to realistically think they have a shot to overtake Bos and TB.
Now I just don't see it.
Jeff Smith post=435487 said:Like to send all non SJU posts off this site.
Gardner only played one game in this series. Ironically, it seems like we have a better record when he and/or Odor start (at least one of them, but usually both). As bad as they are, they are lefties, and I wonder if that throws pitchers off a bit. We may have to tolerate their presence in the lineup, because the all-righty lineup just looks too easy to pitch to, even if they are more talented.JohnnyFan post=435522 said:As I said during the offseason, I like Brett Gardner but bringing him back was a mistake. There is a strange love affair that the team and many fans have with Gardner and it has not served us well.
Now we're faced with a decision to waive him or live with a 38 year old who is hitting .198 with 2 HRs and an anemic .304 on-base-percentage.
Let's wish Gardner well and respectfully let him go.
SJU61982 post=435523 said:Gardner only played one game in this series. Ironically, it seems like we have a better record when he and/or Odor start (at least one of them, but usually both). As bad as they are, they are lefties, and I wonder if that throws pitchers off a bit. We may have to tolerate their presence in the lineup, because the all-righty lineup just looks too easy to pitch to, even if they are more talented.JohnnyFan post=435522 said:As I said during the offseason, I like Brett Gardner but bringing him back was a mistake. There is a strange love affair that the team and many fans have with Gardner and it has not served us well.
Now we're faced with a decision to waive him or live with a 38 year old who is hitting .198 with 2 HRs and an anemic .304 on-base-percentage.
Let's wish Gardner well and respectfully let him go.
That being said, Gardner appears to still have great heart and desire, just no ability any more.
The big mistake, IMO, was letting Didi go two offeseasons ago, then insisting that Torres could replace him at SS. It took a lefty bat out of our lineup, and weakened us defensively up the middle, and it just seems to have destroyed Torres's confidence. Worse, they want to show that they still have confidence in him, that they're still leaving him out there, and they may be destroying him, as a player in the process.
Worse, they did that to save money on the luxury tax next year with Chapman (picking up the option for Chapman next year gave him less AAV), but how valuable can Chapman be if we don't have a lead? Sometimes, you can't look at it in dollars and sense. It's what's best for the team that's important.
They need to sign one of the free agent shortstops this offseason, move Gleyber back to second base, and trade one of Urshela or Voit, preferably for pitching. Then, you just move DJ to whichever corner spot opens up, and the other is still here.
The problem is that the two shortstops I really like are Baez and Seager, but I think they will re-sign with their current teams. That leaves Story and Correa, neither one of which excites me giving big money for a lot of years to (short term? of course). But, that would still make us a better team then we are now.
I missed the game. Can you elaborate on this? Did something happen that would have endangered the players? Was there a fight?SJU61982 post=435512 said:We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.
As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar. At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
No, no fights.SJUFAN2 post=435531 said:I missed the game. Can you elaborate on this? Did something happen that would have endangered the players? Was there a fight?SJU61982 post=435512 said:We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.
As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar. At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
Anyone?
Oh. So you just wanted them to walk off the field and forfeit?SJU61982 post=435533 said:No, no fights.SJUFAN2 post=435531 said:I missed the game. Can you elaborate on this? Did something happen that would have endangered the players? Was there a fight?SJU61982 post=435512 said:We may be getting to the point soon today, where Boone might want to just pull his team off the field.
As each inning goes by, we get more and more frustrated, while Boston's confidence continues to soar. At some point, he has to realize that his team is getting nothing out of this.
Anyone?
Just a general point about the Red Sox being so up, and us being so down, that it was snowballing.