Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?

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Your #s total 45 allied for Bush and 11 for Obama.
But politifacts had 87 allied for Bush.
All I know and my point is that the carnage under Bush (even excluding the Iraq debacle) far surpasses the lives lost under Obama--and the media and Republicans made more of the damage sustained under the Obama Administration than under GW Bush's.
 
The boy who cried wolf !!! The lead story this morning on CNBC , Trump under investigation for obstruction of justice by special prosecution. Little reporting of the shooting at baseball practice. When will they report news in a way that I can take them seriously ? For once I am in full support of Trump's tweet.
 
the media [...] made more of the damage sustained under the Obama Administration

Yeah, the media was absolutely brutal to Obama.

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It's a wonder he survived the onslaught.
 
The boy who cried wolf !!! The lead story this morning on CNBC , Trump under investigation for obstruction of justice by special prosecution. Little reporting of the shooting at baseball practice. When will they report news in a way that I can take them seriously ? For once I am in full support of Trump's tweet.

Yeah, like Fox News. At least they are fair and balanced. It's obvious, only the left wing media is biased.
 
Grow up Logen. Meanwhile stuff it. .
Scores more US embassy workers were wounded and killed under Bush than under Obama.
Few of these events received major media coverage beyond the media 'cycle'. NONE of these were investigated by numerous Congressional witch-hunt committees costing millions of $$$$$$'s.
LOOK it up.
Obama (and Clinton) had 1 Benghazi.
Bush had scores and MORE than THAT, Bush's invasion of Iraq in March 2003 unleashed the total fracturing of the Middle East since.
Go back to grade school, before you again attempt to discuss 'current' events.

You worry about a non-politician New Yorker throwing the finger and you tell me to grow up!! Right................ I am not and never have been a Bush supporter so stuff that argument. I am not remotely naïve enough to be a Republican. Trump was elected to clean out ALL the bums and the Bushes are right in line with the Clintons and Obama. if you bothered to read my posts you would KNOW that my animosity towards the Republicans is almost equal to my feelings about the left. The difference is the left is intent on turning us into a 3rd world country so they can create one global government while the vast majority of Republicans don't care what this country looks like as long as they can keep stealing tax money. Most Republicans are battling Trump just as the left is and anyone with a real modicum of sense knows the battle is with WASHINGTON DC and the elitist global movement, not either party. in the end they both need to be rooted out or things are going to get very ugly in this country because Middle America is not going away and will not roll over.
 
It has been a true pleasure to share private discussions with posters on this thread who have views much different from mine. We have built a foundation of listening by going back to the thread's title and remembering that rarely have the American people been faced with a choice for President where picking "the lesser of two evils" was so clearly the issue.
 
Ah, you still remember when I accused you of having to get the last word. That was over a week ago....guess that one really got you. I am not surprised, but I sure am enjoying it

Not so fast. In fact, the opposite happened and I am the one enjoying it. By referencing that post I cleverly manipulated you using my ginormous eye cues and you fell right into my diabolical trap. What a triumph! My brilliant plan was to reply to your post and by doing so to force you to reply to my post. And boy am I enjoying your reply. I knew you would not be able to resist and therefore I win! You must admit that. That is only fair, because I am fair, which you would admit as well, if you were as fair as me. In fact, I am the fairest of them all. I know that because I did not vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton or even Don Arte Gary Johnson, which means everything I say is completely objective. Which you must admit. And now having won the argument by declaring that I have won it, which must be true because I am fair, which you must admit because you replied to my post because you are a pustulant who must show off his opinions using paragraphs and sometimes matching tenses and occasionally words with more than two syllables and sometimes writes sentences that have subjects and predicates like a frustrated poet who is too scared to write poetry although not all poets use predicates, see for example ee cummings, I declare the discussion over and my enjoyment continuing. So being fair it is only fair that you must admit that I have won fair and square by posting words that compelled you to post words by virtue of which posting of words you lost and I win and I enjoy and you feel only bitterness, defeat and butt hurt. Which you must admit unless you are unfair.


I'd say more about this subject but I think if I were to continue I might say something untoward in igpay atinlay which evidently is otnay allowedyay and one of the moderators might delete my carefully thought out and objectively fair post by which I won the internet which might result in a secret vote to have me banned and this time the genyious who proposed it might not even helpfully provide a link to material he finds personally offensive that is posted on a completely different website than this one that he went to voluntarily and read, so that that website gets a bunch of traffic from secretvotetohavefunbanned.html/redman.com like what happened last time there was a secret vote to have me banned, talk about shooting yourself in the foot in Connecticut. You must admit that secret votes are not fair and almost like what Stalin would do, which comprises proof that at least some of the mods here are guilty of collusion and should recuse themselves.


Being fair I will give you the last word, which will compel you to answer, or not, which may or may not be another trick to win the internet, which you must admit was clever although perhaps not fair but all's fair in love and war and this is war unless you want to cuddle. Speaking of which I've been watching Hacksaw Ridge on the treadmill via Netflix and so feel in a paramilitary mood although for all the bravery he displayed crawling around in the dark surrounded by inscrutable Chicoms I think it's fair to say that that Doss guy was sort of scared little milquetoast who would hide behind his computer using a fake name if they had the internet on Iwo Jima because who doesn't like to shoot a machine gun, which made it hard to believe that a hot broad like Teresa Palmer would bang him, of course she wouldn't. I frankly do not think Hacksaw Ridge is close to Mel's best work, it pales in comparison to The Passion of The Beaver, but considering what Mel said about the you know whos running Hollywood he's probably lucky he got it made at all.

Before giving you the last word however I would like to have the last word and today the last word will be my recipe for lobster rolls, viz. First, drive to Free Range Fish & Lobster in Portland Maine and buy half a dozen lobster. Free Range has the best lobster in all of New England IMO. On the way back stop in at a New Hampshire state liquor store and buy a tax free case of Belevedere vodka, Belevedere's the best vodka out there IMO. Once you return home place the lobster in the refrigerator and the vodka in the freezer and drive to the local Bohacks and purchase a jar of Hellman's mayonnaise which is the best mayo IMO and two dozen Wellfleet oysters from the fish department. I've done extensive research and have found that the fish department at Bohacks is the place to go for Wellfleets IMO. If you're in the mood for Hog Island Sweetwaters or Apalachicolas I'd say definitely go to King Kullen, theirs are the best on the island IMO. But I prefer Wellfleets. Next, drive to the nearest large body of water and throw the mayonnaise into it, because only a barbarian puts mayonnaise on lobster. Return home, start the grill, open the oysters and while they're chilling have several Belevedere martinis, using a ratio of seven parts vodka, three parts ice cube, zero parts vermouth and for god sake no olives or other vegetation, that's disgusting IMO. I mean I'll have a julep or seven on Derby Day but only because like all fair and objective political independents I'm a die hard conservative so I'm willing to suffer through some mint once a year for tradition's sake. Once you're sufficiently fortified stab the lobsters in the head with a sharp object - an awl is best for this IMO - split the shells lengthwise like they did to those poor bastards in Apocalypto and place them on the grill, slightly off the heat until the shells are as fiery red as the communist flag. While they're grilling make a Bearnaise for the lobster and a mignonette for the oysters and serve everything together with freshly made bread from Regina's in Park Slope, it's the best bread in all the five boroughs, absolutely the best.
Dr Science awards 10 points to Weaseldor for mentioning Bohack's.

I find this post

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the media [...] made more of the damage sustained under the Obama Administration

Yeah, the media was absolutely brutal to Obama.

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It's a wonder he survived the onslaught.

Oh boy am I! Bring me a smack of Man 'O War!

And I think the answer to your question is "Reggie Love"
 
After yesterday's shooting, Senator Rand Paul said, "No one would have survived without the Capitol Hill Police".

It is interesting to note that the two Officers involved were both Black. David Bailey graduated from North Carolina Central University, a predominantly Black College. Crystal Griner graduated from Hood College in Maryland where she was an Honors student and a member of the Women's Basketball team. She is also a Gay woman who married her partner in 2015.

I mention race and sexual orientation to show that these two individuals, who have very little in common with mainstream Republicans, risked their lives to protect lawmakers whose agendas do not coincide with theirs. These two people showed that heroism and doing the right thing under life threatening conditions has nothing to do with race, political affiliation, or sexual orientation.

There have been so many posts on this thread condemning and talking down to people with different political views, that I felt it was important to show heroism comes in all forms, races, political parties, etc.

Now, if anyone on here would have a problem with a Democrat or Republican, Leftist or Conservative saving their life, that is your problem, not mine.

Have a Great Day !!!!!
 
I mention race and sexual orientation to show that these two individuals, who have very little in common with mainstream Republicans, risked their lives to protect lawmakers whose agendas do not coincide with theirs.

Do you really think that people who live on the same planet, in the same solar system, in the same galaxy in an infinite universe; contemporaneously, out of the four billion years the planet has been in existence; belonging to the same species, out of 9 million; living in the same country, in the same state, in the same city; sharing similar cultural, social, religious and educational experiences and a common language and government; and presumably having the same aspirations: the pursuit of life, liberty, security; are more different than similar to those who don't share a common percentage of melanin in their skin or sexual orientation? Because I think that's demented. These two individuals have almost everything in common with mainstream republicans. (Whatever you conceive those things to be, I think of them as democrats.) Which is the problem with identity politics: it creates a prism that refracts minute differences into immutable dissimilarities.
 
I mention race and sexual orientation to show that these two individuals, who have very little in common with mainstream Republicans, risked their lives to protect lawmakers whose agendas do not coincide with theirs.

Do you really think that people who live on the same planet, in the same solar system, in the same galaxy in an infinite universe; contemporaneously, out of the four billion years the planet has been in existence; belonging to the same species, out of 9 million; living in the same country, in the same state, in the same city; sharing similar cultural, social, religious and educational experiences and a common language and government; and presumably having the same aspirations: the pursuit of life, liberty, security; are more different than similar to those who don't share a common percentage of melanin in their skin or sexual orientation? Because I think that's demented. These two individuals have almost everything in common with mainstream republicans. (Whatever you conceive those things to be, I think of them as democrats.) Which is the problem with identity politics: it creates a prism that refracts minute differences into immutable dissimilarities.

For an ideology that professes fairness, inclusion, equality and tolerance … this is now beyond ridiculous but shows precisely why 1984 is just around the corner as any resistance will be stamped out, literally:

1. Kathy Griffin 'Beheads' Trump in Graphic Photo
2. Madonna – "I've thought a lot about blowing up the White House."
3. Snoop Dogg "Shoots" Trump in the Head in Music Video
4. Robert De Niro: "I'd Like to Punch Him in the Face"
5. Joss Whedon: "I Want a Rhino to [F---] Paul Ryan to Death"
6. Shakespeare in the Park Stabs 'Trump' to Death in Performance of 'Julius Caesar
7. Rapper YG Threatens Trump with "[F---] Donald Trump" Song
8. Marilyn Manson Kills 'Trump' in Music Video

Even before Wednesday's shooting, conservative views such as Berkeley and elsewhere are portrayed "fascists"

Virginia Rep. Tom Garrett's and his family were targeted by repeated death threats. "This is how we're going to kill your wife," read one such message.

A Tucson Unified School District employee left threatening voicemails for Arizona Rep. Martha McSally. Agents said 58-year-old Steve Martan telling the Republican congresswoman that her days were "numbered".

In Tennessee a 35-year-old Wendi Wright was charged with felony reckless endangerment for allegedly trying to run Republican Congressman David Kustoff off the road after a town hall he held regarding the GOP health care bill.

The same day Wright was charged, police in North Dakota escorted a man from a town hall with Rep. Kevin Cramer after the man became physical with the Republican congressman and shoved a fistful of money into Cramer's collar.
 
I mention race and sexual orientation to show that these two individuals, who have very little in common with mainstream Republicans, risked their lives to protect lawmakers whose agendas do not coincide with theirs.

Do you really think that people who live on the same planet, in the same solar system, in the same galaxy in an infinite universe; contemporaneously, out of the four billion years the planet has been in existence; belonging to the same species, out of 9 million; living in the same country, in the same state, in the same city; sharing similar cultural, social, religious and educational experiences and a common language and government; and presumably having the same aspirations: the pursuit of life, liberty, security; are more different than similar to those who don't share a common percentage of melanin in their skin or sexual orientation? Because I think that's demented. These two individuals have almost everything in common with mainstream republicans. (Whatever you conceive those things to be, I think of them as democrats.) Which is the problem with identity politics: it creates a prism that refracts minute differences into immutable dissimilarities.

For an ideology that professes fairness, inclusion, equality and tolerance … this is now beyond ridiculous but shows precisely why 1984 is just around the corner as any resistance will be stamped out, literally:

1. Kathy Griffin 'Beheads' Trump in Graphic Photo
2. Madonna – "I've thought a lot about blowing up the White House."
3. Snoop Dogg "Shoots" Trump in the Head in Music Video
4. Robert De Niro: "I'd Like to Punch Him in the Face"
5. Joss Whedon: "I Want a Rhino to [F---] Paul Ryan to Death"
6. Shakespeare in the Park Stabs 'Trump' to Death in Performance of 'Julius Caesar
7. Rapper YG Threatens Trump with "[F---] Donald Trump" Song
8. Marilyn Manson Kills 'Trump' in Music Video

Even before Wednesday's shooting, conservative views such as Berkeley and elsewhere are portrayed "fascists"

Virginia Rep. Tom Garrett's and his family were targeted by repeated death threats. "This is how we're going to kill your wife," read one such message.

A Tucson Unified School District employee left threatening voicemails for Arizona Rep. Martha McSally. Agents said 58-year-old Steve Martan telling the Republican congresswoman that her days were "numbered".

In Tennessee a 35-year-old Wendi Wright was charged with felony reckless endangerment for allegedly trying to run Republican Congressman David Kustoff off the road after a town hall he held regarding the GOP health care bill.

The same day Wright was charged, police in North Dakota escorted a man from a town hall with Rep. Kevin Cramer after the man became physical with the Republican congressman and shoved a fistful of money into Cramer's collar.

Half of that stuff is just locker room talk. So, as you know, that makes it okay.
 
I mention race and sexual orientation to show that these two individuals, who have very little in common with mainstream Republicans, risked their lives to protect lawmakers whose agendas do not coincide with theirs.

Do you really think that people who live on the same planet, in the same solar system, in the same galaxy in an infinite universe; contemporaneously, out of the four billion years the planet has been in existence; belonging to the same species, out of 9 million; living in the same country, in the same state, in the same city; sharing similar cultural, social, religious and educational experiences and a common language and government; and presumably having the same aspirations: the pursuit of life, liberty, security; are more different than similar to those who don't share a common percentage of melanin in their skin or sexual orientation? Because I think that's demented. These two individuals have almost everything in common with mainstream republicans. (Whatever you conceive those things to be, I think of them as democrats.) Which is the problem with identity politics: it creates a prism that refracts minute differences into immutable dissimilarities.

For an ideology that professes fairness, inclusion, equality and tolerance … this is now beyond ridiculous but shows precisely why 1984 is just around the corner as any resistance will be stamped out, literally:

1. Kathy Griffin 'Beheads' Trump in Graphic Photo
2. Madonna – "I've thought a lot about blowing up the White House."
3. Snoop Dogg "Shoots" Trump in the Head in Music Video
4. Robert De Niro: "I'd Like to Punch Him in the Face"
5. Joss Whedon: "I Want a Rhino to [F---] Paul Ryan to Death"
6. Shakespeare in the Park Stabs 'Trump' to Death in Performance of 'Julius Caesar
7. Rapper YG Threatens Trump with "[F---] Donald Trump" Song
8. Marilyn Manson Kills 'Trump' in Music Video

Even before Wednesday's shooting, conservative views such as Berkeley and elsewhere are portrayed "fascists"

Virginia Rep. Tom Garrett's and his family were targeted by repeated death threats. "This is how we're going to kill your wife," read one such message.

A Tucson Unified School District employee left threatening voicemails for Arizona Rep. Martha McSally. Agents said 58-year-old Steve Martan telling the Republican congresswoman that her days were "numbered".

In Tennessee a 35-year-old Wendi Wright was charged with felony reckless endangerment for allegedly trying to run Republican Congressman David Kustoff off the road after a town hall he held regarding the GOP health care bill.

The same day Wright was charged, police in North Dakota escorted a man from a town hall with Rep. Kevin Cramer after the man became physical with the Republican congressman and shoved a fistful of money into Cramer's collar.

Remember that time Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick? Remember that time fat drunken slob heir apparent to the throne Ted Kennedy murdered Mary Jo Kopechne? Remember that time Robert Byrd was Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan? Speaking as an objective observer none of that's nearly as bad as anything Donald Trump did as host of the Miss America Pageant. I mean, I hear he might have ogled a woman in a bathing suit. Not to mention Mitt Romney, who was mean to his dog just like Hitler and let's not forget Sarah Palin who was like Eva Braun except more eviler. I'm an independent voter with objective opinions but I can't believe that more patriots have not tried to murder more republican soft ball players, because they have crossed the third base line and all of the murder and violence is the fault of Donald John Trump, who had the audacity to garner more electoral votes than fair minded independent voters such as myself think he deserved.
 
Where'd all you right wingers go to college? St John's Of The Swastika?
That's my joke.
We'll agree to disagree.
You ain't convincing me and Shirley I ain't y'all.
Let's have fun!
And root the Redmen deep into the NCAA's and to snare so,e high profile 2018 and 2019 recruits!
 
Where'd all you right wingers go to college? St John's Of The Swastika?
That's my joke.
We'll agree to disagree.
You ain't convincing me and Shirley I ain't y'all.
Let's have fun!
And root the Redmen deep into the NCAA's and to snare so,e high profile 2018 and 2019 recruits!
. Neither kumbaya or "you're a bigger meanie" address the absence of policy approaches that work and could draw bipartisan support
 
4 Americans died in Benghazi. More Americans died under Bush's various and numerous disasters. However many policy errors Obama made that resulted in people dying, they do not compare to Bush's woeful record yet they were subjected to more media space and tons more Republican inquisitions by leagues man.
And it's obscene to focus solely on American dead and not the deaths of the thousands of people who died under Bush's mandate.
Obama's hands ain't stained nearly as much.

What a total load of crap. Why don't we just introduce that 2403 Americans died at Pearl Harbor so we can draw Roosevelt into the conversation.

The question wasn't that Americans died in the attack on a US Embassy. We know it can, does, and will happen.

The question is that under attack, The Obama administration decided not to send troops immediately because publicity about a terrorist attack on a US Embassy would undermine their campaign narrative that ISIS (ISIL) was on the run. What they feared most was not that Americans would be killed or saved, but that public opinion would continue to inch away from him and cost him an election.

After the attack Susan Rice declared it a spontaneous riot caused by a youtube video and continued that complete lie until it was proven false.

These are the most despicable people on earth. Not only with Benghazi, but just about everything else in Obama's presidency.

Trayvon Martin's death was used as a political football to rile up and bring out black voters in 2012. Forget about the fact that for months they showed his picture as a bright eyed 12 year old, and not as the 18 year old thug repleat with grills and toting weapons on his social media page.

Ferguson was used an an attempt to rile up voters, using professional rioters to burn the town, then send Eric Holder to reinforce to protesters that he too was a victim of racism and this had to stop. Nevermind all supporting evidence showed that the Gentle Giant had jsut robbed a cigar store, shoved the owner, and then assaulted the police officer.

Forgetting about how ridiculous lifting Iran and Cuban sanctions were, helping governments hostile to the US remain in power, but at the same time NOT demanding the release of Americans in prisons there or addressing human rights violations.

Forget that a college kid comes home from Korea brain damaged because Obama's administration told the family to be patient while doing NOTHING to get him released. Only under pressure from Trump did the kid get sent home this week.

Forget that while Bush all but secured 14 of 18 provinces by the time he had left office. The military surge Dems argued against worked. Forget that Obama single handedly cause the superinfection of ISIS by vacating Iraq without an agreement for Iraq security forces to be ready to take over.

Forget about my dislike for their left wing politics - redistribution of wealth, failure to reduce our dependence on foreign oil (Obama didn't issue domestic drilling permits during his term but took credit for increased production caused by Bush permits), bailing out GM, a waste of an economic stimulus.

What I detest is the absolute dishonesty and lack of moral fiber in Obama, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton. All phonies, cheaters and liars who got fabulously rich from politics. Well not Kerry - he married the Heinz heiress but still had to obfuscate tax laws when he bought a yacht and hid it in Rhode Island for 6 months.

So while I can say that most of those on here with a different political orientation are good and just men, I can also say that the 3 liberals I mention here are despicable human beings who undermined our nation.
 
Where'd all you right wingers go to college? St John's Of The Swastika?
That's my joke.
We'll agree to disagree.
You ain't convincing me and Shirley I ain't y'all.
Let's have fun!
And root the Redmen deep into the NCAA's and to snare so,e high profile 2018 and 2019 recruits!
. Neither kumbaya or "you're a bigger meanie" address the absence of policy approaches that work and could draw bipartisan support

This approach, while I respect your opinion and certainly more than just recognize your right to it, is the crux of the real issue. Trump was fairly and legally elected by the citizens of this country to completely change the course this country is on; one which is clearly a path leading to the destruction of America as a democratic republic. He was not elected to compromise, to "draw bipartisan support" because there is no longer any "bipartisan." There is a globalist movement and a national populist movement. Unfortunately, there is no more middle ground. I realize I am extremely militant here but Bush/Obama/Clinton, Soros, Zuckerberg ,Slim elitist globalists, etc. are not remotely interested in anything but a global government that provides a cheap, unending, completely dependent workforce with no borders and one set of rules, THEIR rules. Why do you think the left conspired against Bernie Sanders? While I disagree with almost all of his views, that were HIS views and he was a wild card, completely unacceptable to the globalists. It is so easy to call nationalists "racists, Nazis, homophobes", etc., etc. etc. but that is just either a smokescreen from those that know better and only live for their agenda, or the pack mentality of the educated but unable to think for themselves brainwashed. Common sense questions, if Obamacare was so great, why did ALL legislators support not being required to participate? What did Obama, in 8 years as the 1st President of color do for the plight of primarily black urban dwellers, except make them MORE dependent on government? He clearly and obviously cared more about increasing immigrants to add to the handout lines than he did the plight of marginalized Americans, and I as a WHITE CONSERVATIVE am racist? Hardly, not at all. Now I cite Obama specifically but the Bushes were just as bad, the Clintons are more a crime family than anything else. Trump was elected to dismantle the totally corrupt swamp that any objective, clear thinking person knows Washington DC to be, not to continue the charade about a "bipartisan" government.
 
[What did Obama, in 8 years as the 1st President of color do for the plight of primarily black urban dwellers, except make them MORE dependent on government? He clearly and obviously cared more about increasing immigrants to add to the handout lines than he did the plight of marginalized Americans, and I as a WHITE CONSERVATIVE am racist?

I don't disagree with your sentiments about globalism and (the inevitable) one world government, but I think Obama's behavior and politics are not that nefarious - and by nefarious I mean aligned with those of the Bilderbergs and their ilk. If anything he was a tool of those people, who if they thought of him at all thought of him like Bill Clinton did: as a lackey who a couple of years ago would have been fetching his post-rape coffee. What Obama was was a run of the mill postmodern moron, inculcated as he was in the politics of the left: his agenda was I think all explainable by his statement to Joe the plumber: "when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Which is to say, Obama's not a globalist, he's a communist: he thinks that the way to make things fairer is to drag everyone towards the middle. But the thing is, that quote didn't just apply to domestic economics, it applied across the board. Obama thought America unexceptional: he though America had too much economic influence, sure, but also too much military influence, too much cultural influence, too much political influence. And so he sought to diminish it. On the domestic economic side by increasing taxes and globally by importing poverty stricken peoples into the US - where wealth could be redistributed to them directly - and by orchestrating transfer payments to the third world via the hoax that is global warming climate change. On the cultural side by branding Americans as a backwards people clinging to their guns and religion and condemning them as racists and touring the world apologizing for their myriad sins. And on the military side by curtailing the exercise of US power in favor of global governance and allowing the promulgation of nuclear weapons in rogue states like Iran and North Korea and allowing the hegemony other actors across the globe - ' tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after the election.' Because if there's nuclear weapons, it's fairer if everyone had them. In short, President Jugears thought America had too much stuff and that it was fairer to spread it around, and as a post modernist - someone who believes that no one thing is better than any other one thing - he didn't care where it spread, because as long as everyone had an equal amount of whatever stuff there is, that's "good for everyone."
 
[What did Obama, in 8 years as the 1st President of color do for the plight of primarily black urban dwellers, except make them MORE dependent on government? He clearly and obviously cared more about increasing immigrants to add to the handout lines than he did the plight of marginalized Americans, and I as a WHITE CONSERVATIVE am racist?

I don't disagree with your sentiments about globalism and (the inevitable) one world government, but I think Obama's behavior and politics are not that nefarious - and by nefarious I mean aligned with those of the Bilderbergs and their ilk. If anything he was a tool of those people, who if they thought of him at all thought of him like Bill Clinton did: as a lackey who a couple of years ago would have been fetching his post-rape coffee. What Obama was was a run of the mill postmodern moron, inculcated as he was in the politics of the left: his agenda was I think all explainable by his statement to Joe the plumber: "when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." Which is to say, Obama's not a globalist, he's a communist: he thinks that the way to make things fairer is to drag everyone towards the middle. But the thing is, that quote didn't just apply to domestic economics, it applied across the board. Obama thought America unexceptional: he though America had too much economic influence, sure, but also too much military influence, too much cultural influence, too much political influence. And so he sought to diminish it. On the domestic economic side by increasing taxes and globally by importing poverty stricken peoples into the US - where wealth could be redistributed to them directly - and by orchestrating transfer payments to the third world via the hoax that is global warming climate change. On the cultural side by branding Americans as a backwards people clinging to their guns and religion and condemning them as racists and touring the world apologizing for their myriad sins. And on the military side by curtailing the exercise of US power in favor of global governance and allowing the promulgation of nuclear weapons in rogue states like Iran and North Korea and allowing the hegemony other actors across the globe - ' tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after the election.' Because if there's nuclear weapons, it's fairer if everyone had them. In short, President Jugears thought America had too much stuff and that it was fairer to spread it around, and as a post modernist - someone who believes that no one thing is better than any other one thing - he didn't care where it spread, because as long as everyone had an equal amount of whatever stuff there is, that's "good for everyone."

Spot on
 
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