As opposed to Obama and Clinton who were "decent" enough to leave Americans defenseless to die in Benghazi and then "decently" lie about it. I'll take the finger over death every time. I humbly suggest you take your "firm belief" and civility and...........
Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?
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As opposed to Obama and Clinton who were "decent" enough to leave Americans defenseless to die in Benghazi and then "decently" lie about it. I'll take the finger over death every time. I humbly suggest you take your "firm belief" and civility and...........
Grow up Logen. Meanwhile stuff it. .
Scores more US embassy workers were wounded and killed under Bush than under Obama.
Few of these events received major media coverage beyond the media 'cycle'. NONE of these were investigated by numerous Congressional witch-hunt committees costing millions of $$$$$$'s.
LOOK it up.
Obama (and Clinton) had 1 Benghazi.
Bush had scores and MORE than THAT, Bush's invasion of Iraq in March 2003 unleashed the total fracturing of the Middle East since.
Go back to grade school, before you again attempt to discuss 'current' events.
Scores more US embassy workers were wounded and killed under Bush than under Obama.
Few of these events received major media coverage beyond the media 'cycle'. NONE of these were investigated by numerous Congressional witch-hunt committees costing millions of $$$$$$'s.
LOOK it up.
Obama (and Clinton) had 1 Benghazi.
Bush had scores and MORE than THAT, Bush's invasion of Iraq in March 2003 unleashed the total fracturing of the Middle East since.
Go back to grade school, before you again attempt to discuss 'current' events.
Nope. You are mistaken. According to a Politifact piece dated 5/25/2014, there were 13 attacks against US embassies or consulates under Bush and 66 died. Seven other attacks that killed 21 people in the 'line of duty' but occurred outside embassy or consulate grounds.
Benghazi was 'different' in that a US Ambassador was killed---the first since the 1970s.
But scores of people died under Bush's 'watch' at US embassies and consulates and/or in those countries, at their homes, etc.
Politifact rated these allegations 'mostly true'.
And btw, Iraq is excluded.
Facts are facts.
Benghazi was 'different' in that a US Ambassador was killed---the first since the 1970s.
But scores of people died under Bush's 'watch' at US embassies and consulates and/or in those countries, at their homes, etc.
Politifact rated these allegations 'mostly true'.
And btw, Iraq is excluded.
Facts are facts.
Nah I'm definitely not mistaken. I almost never post something as fact unless I'm pretty sure it is
Note that I said US Citizens
http://www.snopes.com/u-s-embassy-attacks-compared/
Bama, man, it is very difficult to debate with you because you distort the facts and won't accept historical judgments. Bush's invasion of Iraq has proved to be a total and dismal failure of unprecedented proportions. It led to the total fracturing of the Middle East.
Please stop with these schoolyard diatribes against Obama or Clinton for minor and arguable lapses compared to the egregious failures of Bush and his Administration.
For the love of truth, Stop.
Please stop with these schoolyard diatribes against Obama or Clinton for minor and arguable lapses compared to the egregious failures of Bush and his Administration.
For the love of truth, Stop.
To me and most people assessing the security of our embassies and consulates in foreign lands, whether it's scores of people and how many were American is beside the point.
These people died serving US interests.
It is known that "3 were American citizens and 21 were workers at US embassies or consulates, either of American or foreign nationality."
The other major point is that NONE of these attacks survived the normal news cycle and NONE were investigated by Congress.
These people died serving US interests.
It is known that "3 were American citizens and 21 were workers at US embassies or consulates, either of American or foreign nationality."
The other major point is that NONE of these attacks survived the normal news cycle and NONE were investigated by Congress.
3 american citizens died. That was my response and I was 100% right. It's not even debatable
Now to your new point. ( again I readily admit there were a ton of attacks during Bush )but now you just changed the goalpost so now why not be truthful about it with Obama
How many embassy or consulate attacks were there during Obama's terms and how many people died in those attacks other than US citizens which I already proved was 3 under bush
I sent you an additional reply when I realized you played musical chairs with citizenship of people killed at US embassies or consulates under Bush.
As if that truly matters. These people were serving US policy and were entitled to US safety.
You are mistaken, negating the lives of scores of US embassies and consulates killed in the line of duty because they were NOT citizens.
Also 3 were and 21 others were "either of American or other nationality."
If nothing else, I'd say that's a major mistake of humanity on your part.
And that excludes Iraq--which Republicans have totally swept under the rug.
As if that truly matters. These people were serving US policy and were entitled to US safety.
You are mistaken, negating the lives of scores of US embassies and consulates killed in the line of duty because they were NOT citizens.
Also 3 were and 21 others were "either of American or other nationality."
If nothing else, I'd say that's a major mistake of humanity on your part.
And that excludes Iraq--which Republicans have totally swept under the rug.
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I do not come this forum to read political crap from both sides. I come to read about the school and the teams that support the school spirit
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Enough is enough. Politics and the arguments surrounding it are destroying the moral in this country....we don't need to read it here. I am sure there are many other places to spew your one sided exaggerated nonsense.
I do not come this forum to read political crap from both sides. I come to read about the school and the teams that support the school spirit
. Moderators...can this thread be closed???? or made not to show in this particular forum.
Enough is enough. Politics and the arguments surrounding it are destroying the moral in this country....we don't need to read it here. I am sure there are many other places to spew your one sided exaggerated nonsense.
Oh the irony of you about to be getting embarrassed again. So for the record I proved only 3 american citizens died. So now you are saying I'm wrong to not include the lives of people killed in the line of duty who weren't US citizens. So a major mistake on humanity on my part ?
Tick tock. this is the part where either you let me embarrass you or you correct yourself.
How many attacks happened under Obama on Embassies or Consulates ? What was that figure you gave before ? You said 1. Would you ike to correct yourselff before I do ?
So now once again. How many attacks happened under Obama and how many people died aside from US citizens ( which was the question I already asked you ) because for the sake humanity we dont want to neglect human lives
And as most people know here I hated GWB more than Obama
compared to political discourse in this country yeah it is.
A lot of us here disagree on issues but we are still friends outside this forum so yeah it's a healthy exchange of political ideas
As far as us needing a hobby dont you think that's kind of ironic if you are spending your time reading it ?
Maybe we all need hobbies
Why don't you just not click on this particular thread. Pretty easy solution. Sure we have disagreements but we choose to read and post on this thread. But instead of a general warning I would like to see the poster who wishes death on the President to be told to knock it off. He did it weeks ago also so I wonder if he has been told not to. If he continues he may want to take it a notch higher so I can have the pleasure of reporting him to the FBI.
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This thread can be boiled down to "I'm a republican Bush And Trump good" and "I'm a democrat Clinton and Obama good" goodnight
4 Americans died in Benghazi. More Americans died under Bush's various and numerous disasters. However many policy errors Obama made that resulted in people dying, they do not compare to Bush's woeful record yet they were subjected to more media space and tons more Republican inquisitions by leagues man.
And it's obscene to focus solely on American dead and not the deaths of the thousands of people who died under Bush's mandate.
Obama's hands ain't stained nearly as much.
And it's obscene to focus solely on American dead and not the deaths of the thousands of people who died under Bush's mandate.
Obama's hands ain't stained nearly as much.
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