Notre Dame Game

I, thankfully, just got in from work (amongst other things) and saw it was probably a good thing I missed this. I know we had a lead at halftime so this must have gotten real ugly.

Only one real question to ask anyone who follows this team...doe Phil Greene have compromising pics of someone on the coaching staff and is threatening to use them? How can a guy repeatedly shoot this awful, turn the ball over as much as he does, and dribble the ball into oblivion all the time and still play 35 minutes a game? I know we have no depth, but I'd play a walk on before I'd allow this to happen so often.
because our next option is nobody.
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

You obviously haven't paid attention to most of what people have been saying. 90% of the posters have said exactly the same thing about this team (i.e. they are flawed, have no IQ, etc) just go back and read the comments after the Rutgers and 1st G'Town loss. Not sure who the "you guys" are that you are referring to but most here have been critical of the team, players and coaches. Nothing like supportive fans lol.
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

You obviously haven't paid attention to most of what people have been saying. 90% of the posters have said exactly the same thing about this team (i.e. they are flawed, have no IQ, etc) just go back and read the comments after the Rutgers and 1st G'Town loss. Not sure who the "you guys" are that you are referring to but most here have been critical of the team, players and coaches. Nothing like supportive fans lol.
look ill just leave it alone the season is over anyway no need to cry over spilled milk hope next year we get in and proceed from there.
 
What did the team have to gain from Dom being in the game at all while down 20 after he picked up the flagrant-1?? Why was Dom even in the game?
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

You obviously haven't paid attention to most of what people have been saying. 90% of the posters have said exactly the same thing about this team (i.e. they are flawed, have no IQ, etc) just go back and read the comments after the Rutgers and 1st G'Town loss. Not sure who the "you guys" are that you are referring to but most here have been critical of the team, players and coaches. Nothing like supportive fans lol.
look ill just leave it alone the season is over anyway no need to cry over spilled milk hope next year we get in and proceed from there.

Can you make your prediction for next year now? Unless Harrison doesn't return, we have the same team coming back with the addition of Gift and Sanchez ; ). It's a joke, hope you realize that lol.
 
A 5 minute TWENTY ONE point turnaround? It happened tonight! This game was tied 30-30 at the 14:00 mark. By the 9:00 mark of the second half, we were down 21. There was ONE time out by Lavin in that stretch and he must have been speaking in pig Latin because we played even worse after the T/O.
It was like watching the inmates run the asylum! At that pivotal 14 minute mark and the game tied, Pointer...the new leader of the rat pack, decides to take a 3 pointer. A miss. Garrett follows that with a long shot himself......miss!
From there the turnovers festival began and it was obvious the team was leaderless on and off the court.
The horrific player personnel management that is becoming old with Lavin was magnified in those 5 minutes. Bob Knight made mention of no dribble penetration. There was so little penetration that if any of the ND boys were virgins, they were certainly virgins at the end of the game.
The Pointer fight? The icing on the ugly cake. Hey Lavin, you have let the game get away from your players, put Xtian Jones in for Pointer who has blood in his eyes. Sorry coach, this one was on you.
As for everyone vilifying Pointer I guess you should replay the incident and see the ND player goading him and that kid threw just as many punches! I guess we can blame the ND coach for that.......I did not think so!
It is sad it happened in front of Ponter's family. The kid obviously was super-pumped because of it and he lost his cool. It is a shame that in a game were everyone was standing around on offense and playing piss poor defense, his 12 rebounds were wasted by missed shot, after missed shot after turnover.
Yes, Sanchez is good and thank God God's Gift will be back.........but this team needs an entirely new backcourt.
On to the Garden with 7 scholarship players.....none of whom can shoot. Will there be some penetration? In Lavin's offense, which meant "give the ball to D'Lo", I doubt it.
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

So, you don't think most fans on these boards realized this team was flawed? Nah.... Can't be the case. You're the only one who saw this team was flawed. Delusions of grandeur.

Some folks continued to talk about NCAA because there was a chance, if we had won 10 or 11 games, then we'd be dancing. We were able to win 8 conference games, so it wasn't out of the realm to be able to win an additional two or three games, and maybe, a game or two in the Big East Tournament. It's called hope.

But you'd rather pump your chest and continue to spam the board.
 
Well my sources in South Bend tell me that the reason the fight started was because Sir'Dom told Biedscheid he was uglier than Manti Te'o's girlfriend...

Ba dum dum, tish. I'll get my coat... you have been a great audience.
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

You obviously haven't paid attention to most of what people have been saying. 90% of the posters have said exactly the same thing about this team (i.e. they are flawed, have no IQ, etc) just go back and read the comments after the Rutgers and 1st G'Town loss. Not sure who the "you guys" are that you are referring to but most here have been critical of the team, players and coaches. Nothing like supportive fans lol.
look ill just leave it alone the season is over anyway no need to cry over spilled milk hope next year we get in and proceed from there.

Can you make your prediction for next year now? Unless Harrison doesn't return, we have the same team coming back with the addition of Gift and Sanchez ; ). It's a joke, hope you realize that lol.
i know it a joke but ill answer anyway. we will be slightly better we will win a game in the tourney and lose in the second round on a buzzer beater lol. but i think we improve by three games in the big east.
 
lot of crying on here tonight could it be i was right about this team or are we still zipping the kool-aid mixed with four loko. anyone have a issue with my nit comment now or do we still have a shot at the tourney . nit nit nit i just hope we can win another game in the great words of jim mora lol. but hey i do think things will be better next year instead of 8-10 in the big east i think they will be 11-7 and make the tourney god bless and really looking foward to next year, one more thing i dont think lav should be fired but if he dont make the tourney next year he will be on the hot seat

Miguel, why do act as if you are the only person on the planet who saw this team as a possible NIT? I know there were people here who thought we had a chance at making the tournament earlier and you know why? Because we did. We had a good stretch against the lesser teams and many of us on here did something that is not uncommon, we looked positively on the season because we are fans. The reality is that most of us knew coming in that the NCAA was going to be a stretch. We were picked 10th in the conference. Most major publications had us not making the tournament. So you decided to stick with the view that we were an NIT team. Well good for you. Wow, that was a remarkable prediction on your part. As for the members here who entertained us making the dance, shame on them for being fans and hoping that we had a chance. Funny thing is, a free throw here or there against Villanova, Rutgers & Providence and guess what, it's a whole different conversation. But I'm sure you also predicted the outcomes of those games down the exact final scores. Got news for you buddy, we may not even make the NIT, if we don't, does that mean your not as smart as you sound?
actually what i said was that this team was not a tourney team if you look at our record 16-13 we beat depaul twice rutgers and south florida we ate on the lower tier teams then when we faced some real teams we got it handed to us any more questions.

I think what he's trying to ask you, is who are you arguing with and why do you keep beating your chest like you're the only guy on the face of the Earth (or any of these message boards) that thought we were an NIT team from the beginning?
im not beating my chest just want you guys to finally realize this team is seriously flawed. we cant shoot. our offensive sets are garbage our coach is nothing but ra ra pump you up guy. our basketball i.q sucks and yet there are people on here saying if we win the big east tourney please stop it its over see you next year.

So, you don't think most fans on these boards realized this team was flawed? Nah.... Can't be the case. You're the only one who saw this team was flawed. Delusions of grandeur.

Some folks continued to talk about NCAA because there was a chance, if we had won 10 or 11 games, then we'd be dancing. We were able to win 8 conference games, so it wasn't out of the realm to be able to win an additional two or three games, and maybe, a game or two in the Big East Tournament. It's called hope.

But you'd rather pump your chest and continue to spam the board.
oh well the the good ole boy has spoken lol. yes master how dare i question you i must write only what you think is correct please forgive me . :
 
So, you don't think most fans on these boards realized this team was flawed? Nah.... Can't be the case. You're the only one who saw this team was flawed. Delusions of grandeur.

Some folks continued to talk about NCAA because there was a chance, if we had won 10 or 11 games, then we'd be dancing. We were able to win 8 conference games, so it wasn't out of the realm to be able to win an additional two or three games, and maybe, a game or two in the Big East Tournament. It's called hope.

But you'd rather pump your chest and continue to spam the board.
oh well the the good ole boy has spoken lol.

Let me know when you bring some true commentary to the board.
 
So, you don't think most fans on these boards realized this team was flawed? Nah.... Can't be the case. You're the only one who saw this team was flawed. Delusions of grandeur.

Some folks continued to talk about NCAA because there was a chance, if we had won 10 or 11 games, then we'd be dancing. We were able to win 8 conference games, so it wasn't out of the realm to be able to win an additional two or three games, and maybe, a game or two in the Big East Tournament. It's called hope.

But you'd rather pump your chest and continue to spam the board.
oh well the the good ole boy has spoken lol.

Let me know when you bring some true commentary to the board.
:lol:
 
Post-game quote of the year:
"Greene said the Red Storm settled for jump shots too often in the second half.
"You have to play through the paint. They went to the paint and we didn't," he said.

Too funny! This from a player that dribbles aimlessly for 25 seconds and almost never dishes to anyone! While the ND guards had somewhere around 15 assists, ours had TWO???
Did coach ever say....play through the paint ??? Are there any cutters in any of the plays? Has there been one inside play for Obekpa all season?
You and Harrison took most of the outside shots all season....and neither of you are pure shooters.
You have to play through the paint??? LMFAO!
 
If this was a playground or the AAU circuit, we'd be right up there with the best of them.

But this is organized basketball with things like shot clocks, traveling calls, palming violations, illegal screens, etc.

My failure was actually thinking we could win games when this is exactly how the team was playing since November.

Maybe cut the nets from the rims at MSG and hang some metal chains from them. Or get rid of them altogether.

It'll make some of our players feel more at ease.

Goodness gracious. You can't expect the kids to execute anything other than what they know if you fail to teach them anything different.
 
What did the team have to gain from Dom being in the game at all while down 20 after he picked up the flagrant-1?? Why was Dom even in the game?

Because Lavin is an awful coach? Just kidding obviosly, he's a geniyious. I think he put Pointer back in because having taught his team an important lesson about sportsmanship this week by suspending his best player and then having spect several days explaining in excrutiating detail why he was so heroic for having done so he figured Pointer would know not to punch anyone in the face.
 
with this team getting destroyed what has Bourgault done to go from starting to getting a minute a game before being pulled again? The guy cant even break a sweat. We get it he's not Bill Russell or Metta World Peace on defense but the guys Lavin is playing would struggle to score against those kiddie teams at Halftime at CA. I thought we were past this with the only guy we have that can shoot. It reminds me of Norm not playing Dwight Hardy or Larry Wright or anyone else weve ever had that can shoot because they dont like their defense. We got outscored 44-14 without him. How much worse could it have been.
 
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