My problem is that I believe Lavin knowingly sabotaged last year's recruiting class/efforts to secure an extension.
And in doing so, he set the program back 2 years.
If he had no desire to recruit in the summer of 2013 through winter 2014, who is to say giving him the security of a contract extension will "light his fire"?
I think it's too dangerous to have him "comfortable".
Rico Hines and Gene Keady do nothing. Darrick Martin was hiring a friend. These are wastes. Lavin should've broke the bank to hire the De La Salle head coach Allocco.
Our style of play is not conducive to sustained winning.
The recruiting efforts outside of Chiles is lazy and has no focus. We don't recruit kids who play a role. We recruit kids who can run and jump. No shooters. No rebounders. No size.
And Lavin has been piss poor at establishing key relationships especially in NJ.
I want him gone. Nice guy but he doesn't show the desire that works in NY. Hes a Cali guy who prefers the laid back approach in everything.
If the new President gets suckered into giving him an extension, he's waving the white flag on the basketball program.
You can count on it! We could have John Wooden, Hank Iba, and Dean Smith on our coaching staff, and there would still be some disagreement as to whether it's the right staff.So basically this board will remain divided for the next couple of years. If coach stays the board will remain the same, just like if he his replaced by coach A or coach B. The only way this board will come together is if they get that home run coach. It should be a very interesting time.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/steve-lavin-expects-to-be-extended-at-st-johns-says-theres-pretty-good-chance-obekpa-jordan-return-craig-randall-to-visit-st-johns/#more-131422
As per Zagsblog, Lavin expected to extend and Lavin says CO and Jordan has pretty good chance of returning.
So basically this board will remain divided for the next couple of years. If coach stays the board will remain the same, just like if he his replaced by coach A or coach B. The only way this board will come together is if they get that home run coach. It should be a very interesting time.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/steve-lavin-expects-to-be-extended-at-st-johns-says-theres-pretty-good-chance-obekpa-jordan-return-craig-randall-to-visit-st-johns/#more-131422
As per Zagsblog, Lavin expected to extend and Lavin says CO and Jordan has pretty good chance of returning.
Agree post season is most important but real fans are fans of every game their team plays. Would you rather walk out of the Garden after beating Duke, Nova, the Cuse during the regular season or after losing to them?Plus is there any real benefit to winning 30 games a year, finishing in first placr in the BE, and beating St. J's 2 or 3 times per season?You don't win in the big leagues div 1 without NBA caliber players...Cluess would be like a CYO coach at this level.. We would be basement dwellers...The BC of the ACC
What players on Nova are NBA players?
NONE and that's why they are going home courtesy of a bubble team!!
Yea I'd rather lose as a 9 seed.
You're right
Don't understand your point! Has nothing to do with the discussion. The point is the more NBA caliber talent the better the chance to win. NC state was a bubble team and has a couple NBA types and beat a 1 seed with none. I think it's much worse to lose as a 1 seed this early than losing as a 9 seed without your best defender and shot blocker. Nobody remembers the regular season it's about the dance
Sure!!
But it was just as good walking out of the Carrier Dome after beating Syracuse before they lost McCullough in front of 25,000 stunned Orange fans.
But carry on.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/steve-lavin-expects-to-be-extended-at-st-johns-says-theres-pretty-good-chance-obekpa-jordan-return-craig-randall-to-visit-st-johns/#more-131422
As per Zagsblog, Lavin expected to extend and Lavin says CO and Jordan has pretty good chance of returning.
You can't pay attention to anything he says. It's all blather. He said Jordan and Obekpa weren't coming back. Then he realized that wouldn't help his case for an extension, so he reversed field. Then he became altogether unintelligible.
My problem is that I believe Lavin knowingly sabotaged last year's recruiting class/efforts to secure an extension.
Agree post season is most important but real fans are fans of every game their team plays. Would you rather walk out of the Garden after beating Duke, Nova, the Cuse during the regular season or after losing to them?Plus is there any real benefit to winning 30 games a year, finishing in first placr in the BE, and beating St. J's 2 or 3 times per season?You don't win in the big leagues div 1 without NBA caliber players...Cluess would be like a CYO coach at this level.. We would be basement dwellers...The BC of the ACC
What players on Nova are NBA players?
NONE and that's why they are going home courtesy of a bubble team!!
Yea I'd rather lose as a 9 seed.
You're right
Don't understand your point! Has nothing to do with the discussion. The point is the more NBA caliber talent the better the chance to win. NC state was a bubble team and has a couple NBA types and beat a 1 seed with none. I think it's much worse to lose as a 1 seed this early than losing as a 9 seed without your best defender and shot blocker. Nobody remembers the regular season it's about the dance
Sure!!
But it was just as good walking out of the Carrier Dome after beating Syracuse before they lost McCullough in front of 25,000 stunned Orange fans.
But carry on.
Carry on?
Can't come up with your own material?
... (with absolutely no inside knowledge whatsoever) my gut tells me that Lavin will be re-upped which IMO would be a mistake.
IMO the longterm prospects for StJohns men's basketball are better with Miller, or Hurley, or Hurley if either of the 3 are available. I believe that we have seen the best that Lavin is capable of delivering which results in terms of recruiting have declined since the Harrison class and lacks the ability sustain results in the competitive Big East.
On the Villinova rivals board they have a thread about this. Most responds favor parting w Lavin. They feel a good SJBB would be good for the BE. They sound like most of us saying we should go after Hurley?
Ignore anything being tossed about re extension until "real" decision makers reveal their intentions. Just folly to read into anything at this point.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/steve-lavin-expects-to-be-extended-at-st-johns-says-theres-pretty-good-chance-obekpa-jordan-return-craig-randall-to-visit-st-johns/#more-131422
As per Zagsblog, Lavin expected to extend and Lavin says CO and Jordan has pretty good chance of returning.
You can't pay attention to anything he says. It's all blather. He said Jordan and Obekpa weren't coming back. Then he realized that wouldn't help his case for an extension, so he reversed field. Then he became altogether unintelligible.