Next Coach?

You don't win in the big leagues div 1 without NBA caliber players...Cluess would be like a CYO coach at this level.. We would be basement dwellers...The BC of the ACC
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What players on Nova are NBA players?
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NONE and that's why they are going home courtesy of a bubble team!!
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Yea I'd rather lose as a 9 seed.
You're right
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Plus is there any real benefit to winning 30 games a year, finishing in first placr in the BE, and beating St. J's 2 or 3 times per season?
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Nova lost and their is no way to sugar coat it. Pure and simple. Fans in Philly will be outraged and it you want even more anguish, watch Lexington if Kentucky loses.
 
I think that if we get another coach, then Lavin will be gone by Friday. Why keep khim any longer if SJU knows that he's gone?
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I think the decision one way or the other needs to come Tuesday the latest. Let the weekend of basketball finish and make your move. Hopefully some of the coaches still alive headed into next week decide they'd like a challenge.
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I agree.

Question
If Dayton beats Oklahoma and advances to the sweet16, and he's our top target. Do we wait until they go out and then contact him, and put the Hurleys on hold?
If we go that route, maybe Archie goes to a P5 school, and while putting the Herleys on hold could go somewhere this this.

Tough call, but I really really want Archie.
 
You don't win in the big leagues div 1 without NBA caliber players...Cluess would be like a CYO coach at this level.. We would be basement dwellers...The BC of the ACC
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What players on Nova are NBA players?
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NONE and that's why they are going home courtesy of a bubble team!!
Click to expand...

Yea I'd rather lose as a 9 seed.
You're right
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Plus is there any real benefit to winning 30 games a year, finishing in first placr in the BE, and beating St. J's 2 or 3 times per season?
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Is there a benifit to sweeping Xavier, a Sweet Sixteen team?
 
I think that if we get another coach, then Lavin will be gone by Friday. Why keep him any longer if SJU don't want him.
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IF they are parting ways it probably gets announced after the Final Four next month. That would be my guess.
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Why would we need to wait until everyone else is done playing? The quicker you say goodbye the quicker the process of finding a replacement. Unless you want to wish him a Happy Easter and than fire him.
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I'm going by the admin's track record. I believe FF and NR were both fired in April after the Final Four.
 
I think that if we get another coach, then Lavin will be gone by Friday. Why keep him any longer if SJU don't want him.
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IF they are parting ways it probably gets announced after the Final Four next month. That would be my guess.
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Why would we need to wait until everyone else is done playing? The quicker you say goodbye the quicker the process of finding a replacement. Unless you want to wish him a Happy Easter and than fire him.
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I'm going by the admin's track record. I believe FF and NR were both fired in April after the Final Four.
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Fran was fired in May. After the season ended, administration had no intention of firing him.

Lavin was hired around Final Four weekend. Norm was let go about 10 days before (we had lost in NIT first round).
 
You don't win in the big leagues div 1 without NBA caliber players...Cluess would be like a CYO coach at this level.. We would be basement dwellers...The BC of the ACC
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What players on Nova are NBA players?
Click to expand...

NONE and that's why they are going home courtesy of a bubble team!!
Click to expand...

Yea I'd rather lose as a 9 seed.
You're right
Click to expand...
Plus is there any real benefit to winning 30 games a year, finishing in first placr in the BE, and beating St. J's 2 or 3 times per season?
Click to expand...

Is there a benifit to sweeping Xavier, a Sweet Sixteen team?
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Yes I enjoyed the wins at the time and Nova did a lot more than that. You guys commend us for making the T and winning 20, Nova finishes first, wins 31, goes a round further and that's not preferable. Guess if I had sex with Jessica Alba but it was 6 months ago and not right now I should not look back fondly. :)
 
This is on ESPN and is legitimate

Let the criticism begin. Should the Wildcats have been a 1-seed? Is Villanova vastly overrated? Are the Cats basketball’s Buffalo Bills, good in the regular season and a postseason flameout? Those are all fair questions, and all certain to be asked after what can only go down as an epic disaster of a loss for the Wildcats. Six years ago Villanova made it to the Final Four. March has been a mess for the Cats ever since, with five consecutive first-weekend exits.
 
Just remember some here have agendas other than seeing STJ strong! They want a weak STJ, as it makes it easier for their buddies to recruit our back yard!! Lavin has recruited NBA caliber kids, some pan out and some don't. You don't win in the dance without them! Albeit slow STJ has regained national prominence and recognition! Recruiting against us is no longer a sure thing, don't let a Hurley or a Cluess set us back another decade
 
Lavin will sign a 3 year extension this week and be back on Diallo, with Sheed coming back and a contract he has met all of Diallo's concerns
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that wouldn't surprise me
 
I exect Lavin to return 3/4 yr. ext. flat or less per yr.
No Jordan, Obekpa, or Diallo. ADR? Bigs?
 
I think he will get an extension of 4-5yrs and a nominal bump in salary. If he keeps same salary then he is taking a pay cut (inflation).
 
Could be our coach that we have now


http://nypost.com/2015/03/21/confident-lavin-expects-extension-st-johns-pleased-with-results/
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That's what he says, and I don't give a rats ass about what he says. We been hearing his bs quotes for years, and alot of people are sick of it.
If he's back then that will tell us that the school is fine with being avg and going to the ncaa once every 4 years, that it's ok for Lavin to take a year off from recruiting because he feels no pressure to be a winner, so he shouldn't he have to recruit?
Well if it's acceptable to the school then I hope alot more people stop going to games.

If I stop going, and watching, then I'm a shitty fan right? I'm just a shitty sore loser right?

Or maybe it hurts to much to watch the school be ok with being just a so-so bball team, I can't and won't settle. I could see in a mid major conf, but not in the B.E.
I really dont get that.

I gotta think that the school care, or atleast i hope so.
 
I think that if we get another coach, then Lavin will be gone by Friday. Why keep khim any longer if SJU knows that he's gone?
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I think the decision one way or the other needs to come Tuesday the latest. Let the weekend of basketball finish and make your move. Hopefully some of the coaches still alive headed into next week decide they'd like a challenge.
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I agree.

Question
If Dayton beats Oklahoma and advances to the sweet16, and he's our top target. Do we wait until they go out and then contact him, and put the Hurleys on hold?
If we go that route, maybe Archie goes to a P5 school, and while putting the Herleys on hold could go somewhere this this.

Tough call, but I really really want Archie.
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Send out feelers through back channels the same day Lavin is let go if he is indeed let go. If no interest, keep it silent and move on to the next guy.
 
To be clear on my change in position, what put me over the top was how the SDSU coach couldn't wipe that grin off his face and was almost laughing when he first discussed facing a "Lavin-led St. John's team." He was so relaxed in the halftime interview with that same stupid grin and his players were laughing. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have rather faced us than Buffalo if given the choice and that is sickening to me.

Buffalo was more competitive with a higher seed and a better team than we were with #8 SDSU, and Buffalo was much younger and the core pieces were assembled by Hurley weeks after he was hired.

How does Hurley find a 6'7 240 pound pf that averages 17.5 and 9.2 less than a month after he is hired when we have to start four guards against a team that starts four forwards?

Lavin did a tremendous job rescuing this program from complete obscurity and I am thankful to him for that. He had some bad breaks that weren't really his fault and that really hampered his ability to be successful.

In the end, I don't believe he is a good enough program architect and his style of play is too maddening for me to sign on for another handful of years while I see two exceptional younger coaches that have literally everything it takes to build and maintain a top 25 program. We can't miss out on them now or we will never have a chance to get back to where we once were.
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No need to keep clarifying your flip flopping Belgian waffling beliefs Marillac. We understand.
Of course you know Cluess is older than Lavs and Hurley is middle aged mid forties already.
Of course none have ever recruited a top 50 player or had a top 25 team (I think old Lavs had one this year).
But carry on! ;)
 
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