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You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

I think it has more to do with the allegiance with Under Armor than a lack of respect for the school/job. I wouldn't mind it if it helped with recruiting but otherwise I'd prefer it if we weren't a walking billboard. Kids do like the gear though.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Louie retired right around the time i started to follow but maybe the older posters can tell us if he received any backlash for his sweaters?......

I am not a fan of Lavin's "dress down Friday" look (good one Desco), but i would probably care a lot less if he was winning and recruiting as i expect he should. He would receive a much bigger pass for these smaller things if we werent looking at the worst season at SJU since 2003-04 next year

If I recall correctly, Looie started wearing his sweater during the big winning streak in 84-85 that propelled us to number 1. No one was going to criticize him at that time. But, I think he either often or always had a shirt and tie underneath the sweater. Look, if Lavin had the type of run that Jay Wright has the last couple of years in this conference, then he could wear the sweatsuit and no one would care. But, just like any of us at work...if the results are there...then you get some leeway. If the results aren't there...then you better toe the line.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?
 
Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?

A lot of people heckled him because he was wearing a poly blend instead of 100 percent pure Merino. They called it the "Caldor special."
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?

I actually have one of Looie's sweaters that he gave to my family, but Avon is right. I'm 32, so I only remember the tail-end of Lou's career.

That said, it was LC's trademark. I have less of a problem with that than I do with Lavin who I think doesn't take his job seriously, and may try to get away with things he wouldn't dare do at UCLA or ESPN.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?

I actually have one of Looie's sweaters that he gave to my family, but Avon is right. I'm 32, so I only remember the tail-end of Lou's career.

That said, it was LC's trademark. I have less of a problem with that than I do with Lavin who I think doesn't take his job seriously, and may try to get away with things he wouldn't dare do at UCLA or ESPN.

part of the problem is SJU has let Lavin and his staff run a muck - he has ZERO accountability and ZERO backlash for anything he does.

thankfully the right people have taken notice of this act and the party's gonna be over very, very soon.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Louie retired right around the time i started to follow but maybe the older posters can tell us if he received any backlash for his sweaters?......

I am not a fan of Lavin's "dress down Friday" look (good one Desco), but i would probably care a lot less if he was winning and recruiting as i expect he should. He would receive a much bigger pass for these smaller things if we werent looking at the worst season at SJU since 2003-04 next year

Looie was incredibly superstitious. I think he originally wore the sweater in the middle of the winter on a cold night. WE won, and he just kept wearing it until Gtown destroyed us.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?
Lou won w the sweaters. Everybody was happy. If Lavin can get us the success Lou had ,I dont care what he wears as long as he wins. Furthermore ,there are real difficiecies w our program, lets not waste any more time about Lavins lack of tie. I was going to say he is a coach ,not a CEO. But ,a lot of CEOs dont wear ties today. It didnt hurt Steve Jobs .
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Louie retired right around the time i started to follow but maybe the older posters can tell us if he received any backlash for his sweaters?......

I am not a fan of Lavin's "dress down Friday" look (good one Desco), but i would probably care a lot less if he was winning and recruiting as i expect he should. He would receive a much bigger pass for these smaller things if we werent looking at the worst season at SJU since 2003-04 next year

If I recall correctly, Looie started wearing his sweater during the big winning streak in 84-85 that propelled us to number 1. No one was going to criticize him at that time. But, I think he either often or always had a shirt and tie underneath the sweater. Look, if Lavin had the type of run that Jay Wright has the last couple of years in this conference, then he could wear the sweatsuit and no one would care. But, just like any of us at work...if the results are there...then you get some leeway. If the results aren't there...then you better toe the line.

The sweater story was born on a Big Monday ESPN game at the notoriously cold Field House at Pitt. Coach C was ill and wore the sweater (which it has been reported was a gift from a coach or organization from Italy). The team beat Pitt for the first time at Pitt since they joiined the BE and being superstitious, Coach C. kept wearing the sweater afterwards.
 
Looie tended to wear a brown suit on the sidelines and usually had the jacket off pretty quickly. Norm wore a creased suit and looked like a million.
Had problems recruiting and coaching though.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Nothing but crickets on Steve Lavin's status as #sjubb coach. Figure have to hear something soon.
 
Let me just repeat it in case anyone gets the wrong idea; I fully acknowledge that the tie and suit issue is a pet peeve of mine, and it is not a reason I would consider firing or extending a contract to coach Lavin. Lets judge him on his merits, not what he wears.

But believe it or not, this topic keeps coming up, and I'm not the one raising it again and again lol.
So obviously people want to talk about it.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Nothing but crickets on Steve Lavin's status as #sjubb coach. Figure have to hear something soon.

As they say, the silence is deafening. If he was going to get an extension, wouldn't they have offered it to him in say September? October? Or even right after the regular season ended?
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?

I actually have one of Looie's sweaters that he gave to my family, but Avon is right. I'm 32, so I only remember the tail-end of Lou's career.

That said, it was LC's trademark. I have less of a problem with that than I do with Lavin who I think doesn't take his job seriously, and may try to get away with things he wouldn't dare do at UCLA or ESPN.

part of the problem is SJU has let Lavin and his staff run a muck - he has ZERO accountability and ZERO backlash for anything he does.

thankfully the right people have taken notice of this act and the party's gonna be over very, very soon.

Out of curiosity/lack of knowledge, how have Lavin and his staff run amok w/o any accountability or backlash? If you don't feel comfortable sharing here, would appreciate a pm.

Thanks.
 
Let me just repeat it in case anyone gets the wrong idea; I fully acknowledge that the tie and suit issue is a pet peeve of mine, and it is not a reason I would consider firing or extending a contract to coach Lavin. Lets judge him on his merits, not what he wears.

But believe it or not, this topic keeps coming up, and I'm not the one raising it again and again lol.
So obviously people want to talk about it.

The problem with the sweat suits is that it's symptomatic of his apathy. He feels no pressure to win, he feels no pressure to dress like a grown up and recruiting is "the least of [his] concerns," meaning he cares about that less than his neon green homeless person sweatsuit ensemble.

 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?

i think Desco is one of the young posters like me...

Please see my post above - can the older posters please let us know what the thoughts were of Louie's sweaters?

I actually have one of Looie's sweaters that he gave to my family, but Avon is right. I'm 32, so I only remember the tail-end of Lou's career.

That said, it was LC's trademark. I have less of a problem with that than I do with Lavin who I think doesn't take his job seriously, and may try to get away with things he wouldn't dare do at UCLA or ESPN.

part of the problem is SJU has let Lavin and his staff run a muck - he has ZERO accountability and ZERO backlash for anything he does.

thankfully the right people have taken notice of this act and the party's gonna be over very, very soon.

Out of curiosity/lack of knowledge, how have Lavin and his staff run amok w/o any accountability or backlash? If you don't feel comfortable sharing here, would appreciate a pm.

Thanks.


Why do you appease him?
 
FWIW............

Obviously passions are running high re Steve's extension

Whether you want him extended or not, now is the time to be sharing your thoughts, observations and advice with Bobby via email.
 

You are correct Paul, I think Huggie should wear a shirt and tie too.
But, I will grant him some slack because Morgantown has just a slightly more relaxed sense of fashion than NYC.

But also, Huggins has been doing it for a long time. Lavin wore a suit at UCLA, wore a suit for ESPN, but then he comes to SJU and thinks everyday is casual Friday. That's what pisses me off most of all.

The no tie look is actually a fishion trend. You may not like it but that is a fact. Many coaches have started doing it and you now see it in places where it would have never been dreamed of in the past. Lavin is actually a trend setter in that sense.

Who else? Mike Brey, Huggins... ?

And I still say that it's more about Lavin's respect for the job. Do you think he would've ever tried to stop wearing a suit at ESPN? No, they would've told him to shut up and do his job.
But I take this act as an insult towards St Johns.

I know I'm probably crazy about this though, so I admit it's a pet peeve, not something that should actually be held against coach.

Were you equally upset when Looie was wearing sweaters?


No, but under the sweater, he wore a shirt and tie!
 
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