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[quote="sjc88" post=323809][quote="ron " post=323807][quote="sjc88" post=323806]I was just looking around at the rankings and saw Buffalo ranked at #25. In looking at their schedule the biggest win they have is against Syracuse. They are 21-3 with losses to Bowling Green (conference co leader), Northern Illinois and a blowout loss at Marquette (101-85). They have an early win against West Va. but Huggy Bear's squad is a tire fire.
Anyone have any idea why Buffalo get so much respect? Am I missing something?
They have a rematch with BGSU.If they lose that there is a real good chance they don't dance. I assume they still have shot at conference championship tournament (automatic bid)? Not sure why this team is ranked.[/quote]

Probably in part because of their run last season.[/quote]

Maybe. Not that it matters yet but that Top25 spot seems very generous.[/quote]

Agree. Another example is Villanova's ranking to begin the season. They lost 4 guys to the NBA but were highly rated because they won it all last year.
 
[quote="sjc88" post=323806]I was just looking around at the rankings and saw Buffalo ranked at #25. In looking at their schedule the biggest win they have is against Syracuse. They are 21-3 with losses to Bowling Green (conference co leader), Northern Illinois and a blowout loss at Marquette (101-85). They have an early win against West Va. but Huggy Bear's squad is a tire fire.
Anyone have any idea why Buffalo get so much respect? Am I missing something?
They have a rematch with BGSU.If they lose that there is a real good chance they don't dance. I assume they still have shot at conference championship tournament (automatic bid)? Not sure why this team is ranked.[/quote]

Buffalo is top 25 in the NET and KenPom and top ten in the RPI. The MAC is very strong this year.
 
[quote="Room112" post=323814][quote="sjc88" post=323806]I was just looking around at the rankings and saw Buffalo ranked at #25. In looking at their schedule the biggest win they have is against Syracuse. They are 21-3 with losses to Bowling Green (conference co leader), Northern Illinois and a blowout loss at Marquette (101-85). They have an early win against West Va. but Huggy Bear's squad is a tire fire.
Anyone have any idea why Buffalo get so much respect? Am I missing something?
They have a rematch with BGSU.If they lose that there is a real good chance they don't dance. I assume they still have shot at conference championship tournament (automatic bid)? Not sure why this team is ranked.[/quote]

You might be surprised to know they're ranked #10 in RPI. They have two wins vs Toledo who is apparently #39 in RPI. The San Francisco win is also considered good.


They're #23 in NET. Unfortunately they won't have much margin for error. Not many Quad 1 win chances.[/quote]

Thanks. Didn't realize Toledo and SF were so highly regarded. My guess is if Buffalo loses again to BGSU they are in trouble. Weird way makes our win against BGSU look pretty good. Another example how suspect these RPI numbers are yet they are a big factor in selection.
 
Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.
 
Bracket Matrix has us as an 8 seed today. We are on 109/109 brackets.

Marquette- 3 seed (109/109)
Villanova- 5 seed (109/109)
St. John's- 8 seed (109/109)
Seton Hall- 11 seed (100/109)
Butler- first team out (37/109)
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=323842]Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.[/quote]

The NCAA loves rematches. If we are an 8/9 I'd be willing to bet we get Duke as the 1 seed.
 
[quote="gman" post=323851][quote="SJU61982" post=323842]Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.[/quote]

The NCAA loves rematches. If we are an 8/9 I'd be willing to bet we get Duke as the 1 seed.[/quote]

NCAA would love that rematch, because it would ensure that their beloved Blue Devils would be moving on to the Sweet 16 (Duke and Kentucky, IMO, are the only two teams that, even at our 100% best, we can't beat - we have to be at 100% to beat some of the others, but I would give us a chance).
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=323853][quote="gman" post=323851][quote="SJU61982" post=323842]Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.[/quote]

The NCAA loves rematches. If we are an 8/9 I'd be willing to bet we get Duke as the 1 seed.[/quote]

NCAA would love that rematch, because it would ensure that their beloved Blue Devils would be moving on to the Sweet 16 (Duke and Kentucky, IMO, are the only two teams that, even at our 100% best, we can't beat - we have to be at 100% to beat some of the others, but I would give us a chance).[/quote]

Yeah, as I've said previously I'd be happy to make the Dance regardless of seed (as long as we aren't in Dayton), but it would be really nice to avoid the 8/9 line. I also have a feeling we'd be paired with Duke, and they're basically the only team I don't want to face.

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, followed by our seed line facing Duke during the first weekend. San Diego St beat us, and then lost by 19 points against Duke.

If we play at or slightly above expectations for the remainder of our schedule, we should be able to move up the 7 seed. That'd be huge.
 
[quote="Adam" post=323868][quote="SJU61982" post=323853][quote="gman" post=323851][quote="SJU61982" post=323842]Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.[/quote]

The NCAA loves rematches. If we are an 8/9 I'd be willing to bet we get Duke as the 1 seed.[/quote]

NCAA would love that rematch, because it would ensure that their beloved Blue Devils would be moving on to the Sweet 16 (Duke and Kentucky, IMO, are the only two teams that, even at our 100% best, we can't beat - we have to be at 100% to beat some of the others, but I would give us a chance).[/quote]

Yeah, as I've said previously I'd be happy to make the Dance regardless of seed (as long as we aren't in Dayton), but it would be really nice to avoid the 8/9 line. I also have a feeling we'd be paired with Duke, and they're basically the only team I don't want to face.

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, followed by our seed line facing Duke during the first weekend. San Diego St beat us, and then lost by 19 points against Duke.

If we play at or slightly above expectations for the remainder of our schedule, we should be able to move up the 7 seed. That'd be huge.[/quote]

I believe I mentioned this on Saturday.... I don't want to be in the 7-10 seed range, as I don't want any part of playing the projected #1-2 seeds. They're either poor match ups, simply better than us or both. Of course, anything can happen being it's a one-game situation, along with styles making fights. But I'd rather avoid those projected teams if we make it out of the first round.

Give me the 6th seed or higher, please.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=323869][quote="Adam" post=323868][quote="SJU61982" post=323853][quote="gman" post=323851][quote="SJU61982" post=323842]Lunardi says 9 seed. Has us playing Ole Miss in Columbus (a Friday site) in the first round. #1 seed in that region (the South region - remember, Pod system in place) is Virginia.[/quote]

The NCAA loves rematches. If we are an 8/9 I'd be willing to bet we get Duke as the 1 seed.[/quote]

NCAA would love that rematch, because it would ensure that their beloved Blue Devils would be moving on to the Sweet 16 (Duke and Kentucky, IMO, are the only two teams that, even at our 100% best, we can't beat - we have to be at 100% to beat some of the others, but I would give us a chance).[/quote]

Yeah, as I've said previously I'd be happy to make the Dance regardless of seed (as long as we aren't in Dayton), but it would be really nice to avoid the 8/9 line. I also have a feeling we'd be paired with Duke, and they're basically the only team I don't want to face.

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, followed by our seed line facing Duke during the first weekend. San Diego St beat us, and then lost by 19 points against Duke.

If we play at or slightly above expectations for the remainder of our schedule, we should be able to move up the 7 seed. That'd be huge.[/quote]

I believe I mentioned this on Saturday.... I don't want to be in the 7-10 seed range, as I don't want any part of playing the projected #1-2 seeds. They're either poor match ups, simply better than us or both. Of course, anything can happen being it's a one-game situation, along with styles making fights. But I'd rather avoid those projected teams if we make it out of the first round.

Give me the 6th seed or higher, please.[/quote]

Going to be a tough ask to get up to a 6 seed with how inconsistent this team has been. We'd essentially need to almost win out and then also avoid an early loss in the Big East tourney.
 
[quote="Room112" post=323870]Going to be a tough ask to get up to a 6 seed with how inconsistent this team has been. We'd essentially need to almost win out and then also avoid an early loss in the Big East tourney.[/quote]

No doubt, I'm aware what needs to be done in order to move up to a 6th seed or better. Hopefully, we show some form of consistency the rest of the way and can improve our seeding.
 
[quote="Adam" post=323868]

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, .
.[/quote]

And the one before that with the DJ injury in the BET.
 
[quote="austour" post=323902][quote="Adam" post=323868]

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, .
.[/quote]

And the one before that with the DJ injury in the BET.[/quote]

That one hurt, because we were going far.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=323982][quote="austour" post=323902][quote="Adam" post=323868]

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, .
.[/quote]

And the one before that with the DJ injury in the BET.[/quote]

That one hurt, because we were going far.[/quote]

It hurt because of our seeding. We weren’t beating Gonzaga with three DJs. He score doesn’t show how badly we got beaten in that game.
 
[quote="austour" post=323902][quote="Adam" post=323868]

Our last Tournament (2015) was very anti-climatic even before Selection Sunday. Of course, we had the CO disaster, .
.[/quote]

And the one before that with the DJ injury in the BET.[/quote]

We lost a key player right before our last three trips. Willie Shaw in 2003, DJ in Lav’s first year, and Obekpa Lav’s last year. Of the three, I think Willie was the only one to cost us a win.
 
I know we were firmly in after the Villanova game, but how many performances like this will committee be willing to stomach? Among other things, they are tasked with putting on a good show. If we no-show two more times, are we back on wrong side of things?
 
[quote="L J S A" post=324560]I know we were firmly in after the Villanova game, but how many performances like this will committee be willing to stomach? Among other things, they are tasked with putting on a good show. If we no-show two more times, are we back on wrong side of things?[/quote]

I really don’t know. But this tweet from braziller did make me feel better:

“If you're going to tweet at me that St. John's is going to the NIT, try to do some research first. They're going to have six Quad 1 wins by tomorrow with Georgetown beating Villanova. The bubble is historically weak. #sjubb”
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=324562][quote="L J S A" post=324560]I know we were firmly in after the Villanova game, but how many performances like this will committee be willing to stomach? Among other things, they are tasked with putting on a good show. If we no-show two more times, are we back on wrong side of things?[/quote]

I really don’t know. But this tweet from braziller did make me feel better:

“If you're going to tweet at me that St. John's is going to the NIT, try to do some research first. They're going to have six Quad 1 wins by tomorrow with Georgetown beating Villanova. The bubble is historically weak. #sjubb”[/quote]

Even if you're an "eye test" guy re: the NCAA tournament (which I'm not, and certainly never would be WRT to SJU, because I know us too well), at some point, wins and accomplishments have to override your thoughts about how a team "looks."

Even if you think we are "on the bubble" (which we're not, at least at present), our resume looks so much better then that of other "bubble" teams.

It's a long season. We have some bad steps, but a lot of great performances too. We're a flawed team, but have strengths. The book on this season has not been written yet, IMO.
 
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Georgetown's NET ranking up 10 spots to a season best 71 after last night's win against Villanova
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=324643]Georgetown's NET ranking up 10 spots to a season best 71 after last night's win against Villanova[/quote]

Which benefits us because our road win against them is now Quad 1.
 
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