NCAA Tournament Thread

Again think about Duke fans. They do not know what a bad call is. I mean they might know the dictionary meaning of one, but they have never actually witnessed one. In a way I feel sorry for them ;)
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A bad call to a duke fan is 4 foul shots on a missed 3 pointer by them
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See if your team always gets the call it is not a bad call, it is just a call. A bad call for Duke fans is like Big Foot. Something they have heard of but question its actual existence.
 
Wisconsin for their part was very worthy of the national championship, and had everything necessary to win. They are a nice team to watch, an understatement.

When ratface finally retires, he can play a villain in the next Batman movie.
 
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...p-game-kentucky-wildcats?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain

Some Bo Ryan quotes from above article

It was just a situation where you just have to be able to handle all the hands and the checking. All the body contact — there was more body contact in this game than in any game we've played all year, and I just feel sorry for my guys that all of a sudden, a game was like that. I think they're struggling with that a little bit. We missed some opportunities. They hit some tough shots. You know, it's just a shame it had to be played that way.

and this one.......

All the seniors that I've had — hard to say the word. But every player that's played through the program, OK, we don't do a rent-a-player. You know what I mean? Try to take a fifth-year guy. That's OK. If other people do that, that's OK. I like trying to build from within. It's just the way I am. And to see these guys grow over the years and to be here last year and lose a tough game, boom, they came back.
 
I thought the highest rated refs get to work the Final Four and Final Game
If that's the best they have to offer, the NCAA has a major problem on it's hands
Forget about making changes to the game
First and foremost, fix the problem with officiating the games
Those guys just plain SUCKED!!
 
FGS made

Wisc 25 (+1)
DoOk 24

3's made

Wisc 7 (+3)
DooK 4

Reb

Wisc 35 (+2)
Dewk 33

Assists

Wisc 13 (+6)
DoOk 7

TOs

Wisc 5 (even)
Dewk 5


FT

Wisc 6-10
DewK 16-20 (+10)


* Grayson had as many FT attempts in 21 minutes on 5 shots as Kaminsky had on 16 attempts in 39 minutes.

* DoOks guards were called for one foul the entire game. It occurred 4 minutes into the first half.
 
I laugh at media members who say refs didn't impact the game. Almost every foul called on Wisco in second half was because the Duke player barreled into the opponent or initiated some sort of flop contact into the defender.

And the funniest part was late in the game Justice Winslow leaves his feet, does a mid-air spin and knocks over a defender, That is textbook "player control offensive foul," yet the refs call nothing.

Conversely a Wisconsin player had the ball on the block, backs down once and that troll Jones went flying 5 feet backward and made some obscene noise, sounded like a duck call of some sort. The ref totally falls for the flop and gives an emphatic charge call. The officiating problem in basketball is a major problem.
 
I laugh at media members who say refs didn't impact the game. Almost every foul called on Wisco in second half was because the Duke player barreled into the opponent or initiated some sort of flop contact into the defender.

And the funniest part was late in the game Justice Winslow leaves his feet, does a mid-air spin and knocks over a defender, That is textbook "player control offensive foul," yet the refs call nothing.

Conversely a Wisconsin player had the ball on the block, backs down once and that troll Jones went flying 5 feet backward and made some obscene noise, sounded like a duck call of some sort. The ref totally falls for the flop and gives an emphatic charge call. The officiating problem in basketball is a major problem.
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Winslow and okafor - dukes two best players were called early for their second, third, and fourth fouls. If not for dukes bench (Grayson Allen on offense and amile Jefferson on defense) and tyus jones - Wisco would have won going away.

If the refs were so pro Duke, why would they call okafor and Winslow for early fouls that would force them to sit?

If you want to talk disgrace, let's talk about bo Ryan's post game interview.
 
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FGS made

Wisc 25 (+1)
DoOk 24

3's made

Wisc 7 (+3)
DooK 4

Reb

Wisc 35 (+2)
Dewk 33

Assists

Wisc 13 (+6)
DoOk 7

TOs

Wisc 5 (even)
Dewk 5


FT

Wisc 6-10
DewK 16-20 (+10)


* Grayson had as many FT attempts in 21 minutes on 5 shots as Kaminsky had on 16 attempts in 39 minutes.

* DoOks guards were called for one foul the entire game. It occurred 4 minutes into the first half.
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Interesting for you to cite fouls on Duke guards but not fouls called on their two best players. You are a masterful lawyer.
 
Bo Ryan= learn to lose with class.

Coach K= best coach not named Wooden.

Coach Mullin=likes Coach K a lot=I like Coach K.

Stop all of the Duke and coach K hating on this board=it is old and tired already.
 
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2015-04-07/bo-ryan-complaining-referees-officials-duke-wisconsin-2015-national-championship-game-kentucky-wildcats?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain

Some Bo Ryan quotes from above article

It was just a situation where you just have to be able to handle all the hands and the checking. All the body contact — there was more body contact in this game than in any game we've played all year, and I just feel sorry for my guys that all of a sudden, a game was like that. I think they're struggling with that a little bit. We missed some opportunities. They hit some tough shots. You know, it's just a shame it had to be played that way.

and this one.......

All the seniors that I've had — hard to say the word. But every player that's played through the program, OK, we don't do a rent-a-player. You know what I mean? Try to take a fifth-year guy. That's OK. If other people do that, that's OK. I like trying to build from within. It's just the way I am. And to see these guys grow over the years and to be here last year and lose a tough game, boom, they came back.
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Anyone else not have a problem with anything he said?
 
Calling someone ratface isn't funny or clever and our new coach, and one of the most esteemed members of the SJU community, Chris Mullin, and our beloved former coach, Looie C, think the World of Coach K.

So I'll put up with the nonsense.

I am in pretty good company with my point of view.

I've had positive comments to say about him before and got bashed, so I'll take it from whence it comes.
 
Interesting for you to cite fouls on Duke guards but not fouls called on their two best players. You are a masterful lawyer.
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I'm at least a competent lawyer, in that I'm able to separate relevant evidence from irrelevant evidence. If the issue is fouls not called, fouls called are irrelevant. If ten people are stabbed to death and two people are arrested that doesn't mean that there aren't eight people who got away with murder.
 
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FGS made

Wisc 25 (+1)
DoOk 24

3's made

Wisc 7 (+3)
DooK 4

Reb

Wisc 35 (+2)
Dewk 33

Assists

Wisc 13 (+6)
DoOk 7

TOs

Wisc 5 (even)
Dewk 5


FT

Wisc 6-10
DewK 16-20 (+10)


* Grayson had as many FT attempts in 21 minutes on 5 shots as Kaminsky had on 16 attempts in 39 minutes.

* DoOks guards were called for one foul the entire game. It occurred 4 minutes into the first half.
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Interesting for you to cite fouls on Duke guards but not fouls called on their two best players. You are a masterful lawyer.
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Let's not forget Winslow out of bounds, the ball out of bounds on Wisconsin when it was off Duke and the fact that Winslow basically dared the refs to call a foul on him at the end.
Okafer they had no choice but to call fouls as he is slow and could not guard Kaminsky. This is the reason that Towns will probably leap frog him in draft.

First half was called fairly and Rat face put an end to that with his half time interview.
 
Interesting for you to cite fouls on Duke guards but not fouls called on their two best players. You are a masterful lawyer.
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I'm at least a competent lawyer, in that I'm able to separate relevant evidence from irrelevant evidence. If the issue is fouls not called, fouls called are irrelevant. If ten people are stabbed to death and two people are arrested that doesn't mean that there aren't eight people who got away with murder.
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If fouls called are irrelevant, why did you cite the number of fouls called on duke guards...or the number of times grayson allen went to the line? Seems like you are now contradicting yourself.

Even if your issue is fouls not called (which I do not believe is a precise description of your issue...back to legal writing for you Fun) and the implication is there is a bias to one team, fouls called are relevant in showing that the fouls that were called on duke were very impactful for the team or minor and not impactful. In this case they were very impactful.

People can bitch about the refs all they want. Wisconsin was up 9 and had Okafor and Winslow on the bench. Dekker did a disappearing act, Kaminsky was totally shut down by Jefferson and played him the same way he had been playing Okafor, which was a mistake. Wisconsin should have won that game but could not come through offensively when it mattered, while Duke stayed aggressive.

And Sore Loser Bo sat on his timeouts while his lead was sucked away.

Wisconsin only has themselves to blame for this loss.
 
If fouls called are irrelevant, why did you cite the number of fouls called on duke guards? Seems like you are now contradicting yourself.
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Seems like you are taking a statement from one post and conflating it with another to create a giant straw man, which, like all straw men, lacks a brain.

The number of fouls called on DoOk big men is irrelevant to the number of fouls not called on DooK's guards.

I notice that you use the plural. There weren't "fouls called on deWk guards." There was a foul called. One. On three players. In 116 cumulate minutes. That is something of an anomaly, which raises the eyebrow. It would raise yours if you weren't so biased.

Which is the problem with DooK fans. You're not happy enough to have won, you need to explain why you deserved to. Rather than complaining about Bo Ryan being a sore loser perhaps you should try being a good winner.
 
Duke always gets the calls...That being said..You can't take away what Tyus Jones, and Allen did in the second half. calls can go against you, but the ball has to go through the hoop.. Duke closed out that game like they have all season long.. Just glad it was not Kentucky..
 
If fouls called are irrelevant, why did you cite the number of fouls called on duke guards? Seems like you are now contradicting yourself.
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Seems like you are taking a statement from one post and conflating it with another to create a giant straw man, which, like all straw men, lacks a brain.

The number of fouls called on DoOk big men is irrelevant to the number of fouls not called on DooK's guards.

I notice that you use the plural. There weren't "fouls called on deWk guards." There was a foul called. One. On three players. In 116 cumulate minutes. That is something of an anomaly, which raises the eyebrow. It would raise yours if you weren't so biased.

Which is the problem with DooK fans. You're not happy enough to have won, you need to explain why you deserved to. Rather than complaining about Bo Ryan being a sore loser perhaps you should try being a good winner.
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I'm on a St. John's board debating the officiating "bias" and effect on the game - one played by Duke and Wisconsin. You are looking too deeply into this. If I was a typical "DooK" fan wouldn't I be on some Duke message board verbally/typewriting masturbating all day long? I enjoy discussing basketball period. The fouls were definitely in Duke's favor, but it wasnt as totally lopsided as suggested, and I do think Wisconsin should have won anyway if they had played smart and their Coach hadn't been feeling sorry for himself that one and dones were beating him and the refs were against him, bla bla. Should have called timeout(s) and stopped the momentum.
 
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