NCAA corruption case poised to take down Hall of Fame coaches, top programs

[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289833][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=289823][quote="Paultzman" post=289822]https://twitter.com/jeff_ermann/status/1015249129075806208?s=21[/quote]

What is slowest process: (A) the NCAA corruption investigation, (B) the Mueller investigation, (C) the Rice hiring process or (D) our closing process on a HS recruit?[/quote]

all of the above lol[/quote]
(E) St John’s basketball getting back to being relevant for consecutive years
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289833][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=289823][quote="Paultzman" post=289822]https://twitter.com/jeff_ermann/status/1015249129075806208?s=21[/quote]

What is slowest process: (A) the NCAA corruption investigation, (B) the Mueller investigation, (C) the Rice hiring process or (D) our closing process on a HS recruit?[/quote]

all of the above lol[/quote]

D, C, B, A...but Mueller at about 414 days by 'Special Prosecutor standards still has time to go to match the average time since Watergate @ 904 days; longest ever Clinton-Lewinsky @ 2,978 days, 2nd longest Iran-Contra under Reagan @ 2,420 days.
Let's go Johnnies.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=289842][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289833][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=289823][quote="Paultzman" post=289822]https://twitter.com/jeff_ermann/status/1015249129075806208?s=21[/quote]

What is slowest process: (A) the NCAA corruption investigation, (B) the Mueller investigation, (C) the Rice hiring process or (D) our closing process on a HS recruit?[/quote]

all of the above lol[/quote]

D, C, B, A...but Mueller at about 414 days by 'Special Prosecutor standards still has time to go to match the average time since Watergate @ 904 days; longest ever Clinton-Lewinsky @ 2,978 days, 2nd longest Iran-Contra under Reagan @ 2,420 days.
Let's go Johnnies.[/quote]

Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876][quote="Chicago Days" post=289842][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289833][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=289823][quote="Paultzman" post=289822]https://twitter.com/jeff_ermann/status/1015249129075806208?s=21[/quote]

What is slowest process: (A) the NCAA corruption investigation, (B) the Mueller investigation, (C) the Rice hiring process or (D) our closing process on a HS recruit?[/quote]

all of the above lol[/quote]

D, C, B, A...but Mueller at about 414 days by 'Special Prosecutor standards still has time to go to match the average time since Watergate @ 904 days; longest ever Clinton-Lewinsky @ 2,978 days, 2nd longest Iran-Contra under Reagan @ 2,420 days.
Let's go Johnnies.[/quote]

Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]

JFan, Windy CJ, Chicago et al.
it's nice when we posters can relish in silliness and have a little fun - not trying to be too somber(I will apologize ahead) but my son made a
great poignant statement to me yesterday
about keeping our daily annoyances (and St. Johns stuff) in perspective -
his friend in Afghan just saw his sergeant blown in half with an IED...beyond sad for my son's friend...and so
shall we just enjoy the Red Storm!!!
all the best
Lighheartedness on these pages so welcomed :)
 
[quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876] Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]
And which produced zero indictments or guilty pleas.
 
[quote="redken" post=289977][quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876] Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]
And which produced zero indictments or guilty pleas.[/quote]

That’s because it wasn’t an investigation.
 
[quote="Logen" post=289982][quote="redken" post=289977][quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876] Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]
And which produced zero indictments or guilty pleas.[/quote]

That’s because it wasn’t an investigation.[/quote]

Well that's how it's referred by media sources as varied as the NY Times and Fox News.
 
[quote="redken" post=289977][quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876] Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]
And which produced zero indictments or guilty pleas.[/quote]

Federal corruption probes are so tinged with partisanship that they are simply ignoring the law or going on witch hunts. I seem to recall Hillary Clinton dodging testifying because she said she hit her head and couldn't remain key facts. The whole system has produced kangaroo courts or investigators in the pockets of the President.
 
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289878][quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876][quote="Chicago Days" post=289842][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289833][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=289823][quote="Paultzman" post=289822]https://twitter.com/jeff_ermann/status/1015249129075806208?s=21[/quote]

What is slowest process: (A) the NCAA corruption investigation, (B) the Mueller investigation, (C) the Rice hiring process or (D) our closing process on a HS recruit?[/quote]

all of the above lol[/quote]

D, C, B, A...but Mueller at about 414 days by 'Special Prosecutor standards still has time to go to match the average time since Watergate @ 904 days; longest ever Clinton-Lewinsky @ 2,978 days, 2nd longest Iran-Contra under Reagan @ 2,420 days.
Let's go Johnnies.[/quote]

Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]

JFan, Windy CJ, Chicago et al.
it's nice when we posters can relish in silliness and have a little fun - not trying to be too somber(I will apologize ahead) but my son made a
great poignant statement to me yesterday
about keeping our daily annoyances (and St. Johns stuff) in perspective -
his friend in Afghan just saw his sergeant blown in half with an IED...beyond sad for my son's friend...and so
shall we just enjoy the Red Storm!!!
all the best
Lighheartedness on these pages so welcomed :)[/quote]

SS&G. My condolences. The burdens that servicemen who have seen combat engagements carry with them last a lifetime. Our town on the east end had a young leader die trying to disable an IED. One of his parents live in your town. The town honors his memory continually, and his platoon's last official act before discharge was to travel to our town to meet his family and learn about where he grew up. The town rolled out the red carpet, with host families and dinners for these courageous young heroes.
 
Thanks Beast
Lieutenant Joe from Shelter Island RIP
every town has its losses
to complete the story I shared...

my son's friend said upon the explosion the sergeant's last words were "Ohh F..k - pause - I love you guys..."
death is sooo sobering, and we all know this: just enjoy each moment as best we can and as far as a college team we root for, keep it simple and keep it in perspective
Go St. Johns
all the best
 
[quote="redken" post=289986][quote="Logen" post=289982][quote="redken" post=289977][quote="JohnnyFan" post=289876] Not to mention, the Benghazi congressional investigation which was 28 months or currently double the Mueller investigation.[/quote]
And which produced zero indictments or guilty pleas.[/quote]

That’s because it wasn’t an investigation.[/quote]



Well that's how it's referred by media sources as varied as the NY Times and Fox News.[/quote]

Congress has the power to investigate under its broad power to legislate. It can subpoena and hold in contempt, but it’s powers are limited to its areas of jurisdiction. I believe Federal Attorneys in the Justice Dept would pursue punishment in the Courts on major ‘crimes’. But yeah it is called an ‘investigation’.
 
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[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=289991]Thanks Beast
Lieutenant Joe from Shelter Island RIP
every town has its losses
to complete the story I shared...

my son's friend said upon the explosion the sergeant's last words were "Ohh F..k - pause - I love you guys..."
death is sooo sobering, and we all know this: just enjoy each moment as best we can and as far as a college team we root for, keep it simple and keep it in perspective
Go St. Johns
all the best[/quote]

Lt. Joe is a hero here. I often think that all the fanfare doesn't diminish the fact that in the quiet of the evening, his parents lost a son. The price of war is often devastating for loved ones, no matter what how noble or great the cause.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=290004]Worth a read;
[URL][URL]https://www.si.com/colleg...bpoenaed-fbi-investigation-college-basketball[/URL][/URL][/quote]


Great article, Paultz. Thanks.
I embarked on a Michael McCann 'tutorial' and read two of his other pieces on the issue.
He raises intriguing questions of whether this controversy is 'illegal'--subject to civil or criminal prosecution--or merely 'against' NCAA rules, which are that of a private, voluntary, association of colleges.
IMO, these practices may not be 'crimes'.
And the NCAA does not supervise over a 'level playing field' for all of its members.
As we all know, there are 'elite' members that reap top 5* recruiting classes year-after-year that benefit the NCAA as an institution and the 'rules' are applied differently to these colleges and universities.
But, these practices further 'tilt' the playing field to a bad joke, and are themselves egregious and 'unfair' 'competitive' practices that should be punished 'evenly' by the NCAA. (Notwithstanding the comedy of that assertion.)
So, I come out thinking these practices are not 'criminal' but the schools should be punished by the NCAA for being involved.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=290155][quote="Tom in Salem" post=290117]Kansas second school to be subpoenered.

[URL][URL]https://www.cbssports.com...onnection-to-fbi-probe-of-college-basketball/[/URL][/URL][/quote]

It would be something if it turns out that Norm isn't so squeaky clean after all.[/quote]

Wow. It also may explain at least some of Norm's success at Kansas--stellar beacon of high major college hoops as the program is--$$$$$$'s laundered in 'the cause' sure the hell can 'help' results.
 
[quote="Tom in Salem" post=290117]Kansas second school to be subpoenered.

[URL][URL]https://www.cbssports.com...onnection-to-fbi-probe-of-college-basketball/[/URL][/URL][/quote]

("records responsive to your request" and that it is "cooperating with the government inquiry,")

Long Translation

"We are in receipt of your freedom of information request and have records that are responsive to such request. However we cannot comply with your requests to produce these documents as they are not currently in our possession. They have been legally removed from our premises under a search and seizure order issued by the courts and are currently in the possession of a government entity."
 
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