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[quote="bamafan" post=351149]CMA comes across as a young 59-60 and looks to be in great shape. 5-10 years of CMA with leaving the program in good shape meaning successful seasons and returning talent would not be a bad thing at all and is what we are probably hoping for. Would make this a more desirable job and who knows may even have successor on staff.[/quote]

Yep. As Cragg mentioned, CMA is always the first to arrive each morning. He clearly put a ton of effort into his AC choices, and all 3 of them should be out there recruiting. As long as CMA meets with recruits at least once, then the team will be in a vastly better position. His age isn't an issue, and if he were younger then some would be concerned about him getting poached. First let's focus on actually winning a Tournament game before worrying about how long CMA will be here.
 
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[quote="Beast of the East" post=351147]Age is a valid discussion.......[/quote]
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Good God. Discussion to what?

There is no discussion.

What part of Mike Anderson has been hired as the head mens basketball coach ay StJohn's University don't you understand ?
 
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[quote="Knight" post=351157]My Dear Friends,
How about we forego the current references being made to race and stick to discussions on CMA and staff.
We are all St. John's fans and should be pulling in the same direction.
Respect goes a long way in these forums.
Peace.[/quote]

Better yet, why don’t we let those who choose to post such comments that they are unacceptable, no matter how “disguised” they are. I am not a sweep it under the rug, make believe it didn’t happen kind of guy, especially when it comes to filth like that, posted simply because one disagrees with another persons opinion. Frankly, I don’t pull in the same direction with someone who chooses to call me a racist simply because he didn’t like my post.
 
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I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)
 
[quote="Logen" post=351162][quote="Knight" post=351157]My Dear Friends,
How about we forego the current references being made to race and stick to discussions on CMA and staff.
We are all St. John's fans and should be pulling in the same direction.
Respect goes a long way in these forums.
Peace.[/quote]

Better yet, why don’t we let those who choose to post such comments that they are unacceptable, no matter how “disguised” they are. I am not a sweep it under the rug, make believe it didn’t happen kind of guy, especially when it comes to filth like that, posted simply because one disagrees with another persons opinion. Frankly, I don’t pull in the same direction with someone who chooses to call me a racist simply because he didn’t like my post.[/quote]

I don’t think CMA’s age is an issue. When you consider the assistant coaches he has hired, if CMA can be successful here, for however many years he holds the position, I would take any of the assistants as a successor to keep the party going. As I said, should CMA be successful here.
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
I think Monte thinks CMA is 39 not 59 for him to say he is older than coach. :unsure:
 
[quote="Monte" post=351140][quote="Class of 72" post=351126][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351109][quote="Class of 72" post=351061][quote="Monte" post=350719][quote="Moose" post=350704]The word WORST makes no sense.
The worst hire is hiring someone who has never been a HC before.
The worst hire is hiring a re-tread, or a long time assistant.

Is this hire CONFUSING or CURIOUS to the college basketball community? Sure that would be appropriate reaction. But if I was a betting man I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]

Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience.[/quote]

I doubt any of the 5 star recruits are going to Memphis because the coach has superior credentials. I also doubt that the academics is a major attraction. Perhaps there are other incentives attracting these players.
What is indisputable is that our zero college and coaching experience staff was a dismal failure and are all back out west where they belong.
Over on JJ former redmen posters Marillac and Fun gave coach Anderson no honeymoon before branding him a recruiting failure for "just" recruiting two 3 star players in May. After 3 losing seasons and last place finishes in the Big East Fun thought Mullin needed a 5 year extension. After 5 weeks he thinks coach Anderson is a failure.
We finally have 4 outstanding and experienced coaches. Not one scrimmage has been held yet. Anyone being negative about this staff should look in the mirror. Not everyone looks like you so get over it.[/quote] 72 I enjoy your posts a lot and you crack me up a lot but the knock on Monte was uncalled for. He didn’t like Lavin and he wasn’t happy with the job Mullin was doing by the end so color has absolutely nothing to do with how he feels. He’s entitled to his own opinion without it being an agenda. And I know for a fact he is an equal opportunity porn lover[/quote]

Who the fck mentioned color????
If some feel negative because CMA is black they have a serious problem. My reference was to a few younger punks here who have brought up his age. Yes, he is the oldest coach we have hired but some of you will be 60 some day and will still be working off your kid's college tuition. Some of this garbage is more prevalent on Johnny any goes Jungle. I'm not even sure what Monte would have said that had any reference to CMA as he was addressing 1st year coaches without previous experience. I responded to that.[/quote]

Not to belabor the point, but.....you may not have mentioned the word “color”, but it sure as hell sounded to me(and many others apparently) like that’s what you were implying. To be blunt: that my initial concerns about CMA were motivated by racism. Thus my response. Regardless, if it was age you were talking about I should be one of the last people on this board that you should have been addressing since A. I’m older than CMA, and B. my first choice was Cluess, who is also older than CMA.[/quote]

We've had 3 African American head coaches and I can't remember their race being brought up as a negative. Even with the CMA hire race has not been mentioned once. However, his age has come up as has DeMeo as an older assistant. The implications have been that some have issues with older hires. How long will he be around, etc. I'll be happy if he is successful and gets two 5 year contracts. But his success will determine that.

As far as the thread I responded to ( which I already referenced ) there wasn't negativity by you or Moose.
You're exact quotes were " I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]
By Moose
And...

"Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience." By Monte

Since you addressed Penny Hardaway who is black HOW would I interpret that and your agreement with Moose as racist?
My point, poorly made, was addressing some who clearly were hoping for young Hurley and were disappointed we hired a sexagenarian. I also had made clear my response had nothing to do with what you said.
Lastly, if I wanted to call out one of you as racist I would and will.
 
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[quote="Class of 72" post=351167][quote="Monte" post=351140][quote="Class of 72" post=351126][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351109][quote="Class of 72" post=351061][quote="Monte" post=350719][quote="Moose" post=350704]The word WORST makes no sense.
The worst hire is hiring someone who has never been a HC before.
The worst hire is hiring a re-tread, or a long time assistant.

Is this hire CONFUSING or CURIOUS to the college basketball community? Sure that would be appropriate reaction. But if I was a betting man I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]

Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience.[/quote]

I doubt any of the 5 star recruits are going to Memphis because the coach has superior credentials. I also doubt that the academics is a major attraction. Perhaps there are other incentives attracting these players.
What is indisputable is that our zero college and coaching experience staff was a dismal failure and are all back out west where they belong.
Over on JJ former redmen posters Marillac and Fun gave coach Anderson no honeymoon before branding him a recruiting failure for "just" recruiting two 3 star players in May. After 3 losing seasons and last place finishes in the Big East Fun thought Mullin needed a 5 year extension. After 5 weeks he thinks coach Anderson is a failure.
We finally have 4 outstanding and experienced coaches. Not one scrimmage has been held yet. Anyone being negative about this staff should look in the mirror. Not everyone looks like you so get over it.[/quote] 72 I enjoy your posts a lot and you crack me up a lot but the knock on Monte was uncalled for. He didn’t like Lavin and he wasn’t happy with the job Mullin was doing by the end so color has absolutely nothing to do with how he feels. He’s entitled to his own opinion without it being an agenda. And I know for a fact he is an equal opportunity porn lover[/quote]

Who the fck mentioned color????
If some feel negative because CMA is black they have a serious problem. My reference was to a few younger punks here who have brought up his age. Yes, he is the oldest coach we have hired but some of you will be 60 some day and will still be working off your kid's college tuition. Some of this garbage is more prevalent on Johnny any goes Jungle. I'm not even sure what Monte would have said that had any reference to CMA as he was addressing 1st year coaches without previous experience. I responded to that.[/quote]

Not to belabor the point, but.....you may not have mentioned the word “color”, but it sure as hell sounded to me(and many others apparently) like that’s what you were implying. To be blunt: that my initial concerns about CMA were motivated by racism. Thus my response. Regardless, if it was age you were talking about I should be one of the last people on this board that you should have been addressing since A. I’m older than CMA, and B. my first choice was Cluess, who is also older than CMA.[/quote]

We've had 3 African American head coaches and I can't remember their race being brought up as a negative. Even with the CMA hire race has not been mentioned once. However, his age has come up as has DeMeo as an older assistant. The implications have been that some have issues with older hires. How long will he be around, etc. I'll be happy if he is successful and gets two 5 year contracts. But his success will determine that.

As far as the thread I responded to ( which I already referenced ) there wasn't negativity by you or Moose.
You're exact quotes were " I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]
By Moose
And...

"Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience." By Monte

Since you addressed Penny Hardaway who is black HOW would I interpret that and your agreement with Moose as racist?
My point, poorly made, was addressing some who clearly were hoping for young Hurley and were disappointed we hired a sexagenarian. I also had made clear my response had nothing to do with what you said.
Lastly, if I wanted to call out one of you as racist I would and will.[/quote]

DeMeo’s age? Isn’t he somewhere in his 40’s? I was unaware that his age was any issue?
 
[quote="MCNPA" post=351168][quote="Class of 72" post=351167][quote="Monte" post=351140][quote="Class of 72" post=351126][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351109][quote="Class of 72" post=351061][quote="Monte" post=350719][quote="Moose" post=350704]The word WORST makes no sense.
The worst hire is hiring someone who has never been a HC before.
The worst hire is hiring a re-tread, or a long time assistant.

Is this hire CONFUSING or CURIOUS to the college basketball community? Sure that would be appropriate reaction. But if I was a betting man I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]

Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience.[/quote]

I doubt any of the 5 star recruits are going to Memphis because the coach has superior credentials. I also doubt that the academics is a major attraction. Perhaps there are other incentives attracting these players.
What is indisputable is that our zero college and coaching experience staff was a dismal failure and are all back out west where they belong.
Over on JJ former redmen posters Marillac and Fun gave coach Anderson no honeymoon before branding him a recruiting failure for "just" recruiting two 3 star players in May. After 3 losing seasons and last place finishes in the Big East Fun thought Mullin needed a 5 year extension. After 5 weeks he thinks coach Anderson is a failure.
We finally have 4 outstanding and experienced coaches. Not one scrimmage has been held yet. Anyone being negative about this staff should look in the mirror. Not everyone looks like you so get over it.[/quote] 72 I enjoy your posts a lot and you crack me up a lot but the knock on Monte was uncalled for. He didn’t like Lavin and he wasn’t happy with the job Mullin was doing by the end so color has absolutely nothing to do with how he feels. He’s entitled to his own opinion without it being an agenda. And I know for a fact he is an equal opportunity porn lover[/quote]

Who the fck mentioned color????
If some feel negative because CMA is black they have a serious problem. My reference was to a few younger punks here who have brought up his age. Yes, he is the oldest coach we have hired but some of you will be 60 some day and will still be working off your kid's college tuition. Some of this garbage is more prevalent on Johnny any goes Jungle. I'm not even sure what Monte would have said that had any reference to CMA as he was addressing 1st year coaches without previous experience. I responded to that.[/quote]

Not to belabor the point, but.....you may not have mentioned the word “color”, but it sure as hell sounded to me(and many others apparently) like that’s what you were implying. To be blunt: that my initial concerns about CMA were motivated by racism. Thus my response. Regardless, if it was age you were talking about I should be one of the last people on this board that you should have been addressing since A. I’m older than CMA, and B. my first choice was Cluess, who is also older than CMA.[/quote]

We've had 3 African American head coaches and I can't remember their race being brought up as a negative. Even with the CMA hire race has not been mentioned once. However, his age has come up as has DeMeo as an older assistant. The implications have been that some have issues with older hires. How long will he be around, etc. I'll be happy if he is successful and gets two 5 year contracts. But his success will determine that.

As far as the thread I responded to ( which I already referenced ) there wasn't negativity by you or Moose.
You're exact quotes were " I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]
By Moose
And...

"Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience." By Monte

Since you addressed Penny Hardaway who is black HOW would I interpret that and your agreement with Moose as racist?
My point, poorly made, was addressing some who clearly were hoping for young Hurley and were disappointed we hired a sexagenarian. I also had made clear my response had nothing to do with what you said.
Lastly, if I wanted to call out one of you as racist I would and will.[/quote]

DeMeo’s age? Isn’t he somewhere in his 40’s? I was unaware that his age was any issue?[/quote]

Steve has been coaching since 1988. He graduated college 32 years ago. He is 3 years younger than Mullin but he is in his early 50's.
One comment I recall was bemoaning the fact he started in a D1 schools like Providence and Iona but focused on his being relegated to junior college late in his career. It implied that if he were a good coach coach why after 32 years was he coaching in JC.
I really don't think any of the commenters are age biased but pissed we didn't hire someone else they were more familiar with like Hurley or Cluess,
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=351167][quote="Monte" post=351140][quote="Class of 72" post=351126][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351109][quote="Class of 72" post=351061][quote="Monte" post=350719][quote="Moose" post=350704]The word WORST makes no sense.
The worst hire is hiring someone who has never been a HC before.
The worst hire is hiring a re-tread, or a long time assistant.

Is this hire CONFUSING or CURIOUS to the college basketball community? Sure that would be appropriate reaction. But if I was a betting man I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]

Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience.[/quote]

I doubt any of the 5 star recruits are going to Memphis because the coach has superior credentials. I also doubt that the academics is a major attraction. Perhaps there are other incentives attracting these players.
What is indisputable is that our zero college and coaching experience staff was a dismal failure and are all back out west where they belong.
Over on JJ former redmen posters Marillac and Fun gave coach Anderson no honeymoon before branding him a recruiting failure for "just" recruiting two 3 star players in May. After 3 losing seasons and last place finishes in the Big East Fun thought Mullin needed a 5 year extension. After 5 weeks he thinks coach Anderson is a failure.
We finally have 4 outstanding and experienced coaches. Not one scrimmage has been held yet. Anyone being negative about this staff should look in the mirror. Not everyone looks like you so get over it.[/quote] 72 I enjoy your posts a lot and you crack me up a lot but the knock on Monte was uncalled for. He didn’t like Lavin and he wasn’t happy with the job Mullin was doing by the end so color has absolutely nothing to do with how he feels. He’s entitled to his own opinion without it being an agenda. And I know for a fact he is an equal opportunity porn lover[/quote]

Who the fck mentioned color????
If some feel negative because CMA is black they have a serious problem. My reference was to a few younger punks here who have brought up his age. Yes, he is the oldest coach we have hired but some of you will be 60 some day and will still be working off your kid's college tuition. Some of this garbage is more prevalent on Johnny any goes Jungle. I'm not even sure what Monte would have said that had any reference to CMA as he was addressing 1st year coaches without previous experience. I responded to that.[/quote]

Not to belabor the point, but.....you may not have mentioned the word “color”, but it sure as hell sounded to me(and many others apparently) like that’s what you were implying. To be blunt: that my initial concerns about CMA were motivated by racism. Thus my response. Regardless, if it was age you were talking about I should be one of the last people on this board that you should have been addressing since A. I’m older than CMA, and B. my first choice was Cluess, who is also older than CMA.[/quote]

We've had 3 African American head coaches and I can't remember their race being brought up as a negative. Even with the CMA hire race has not been mentioned once. However, his age has come up as has DeMeo as an older assistant. The implications have been that some have issues with older hires. How long will he be around, etc. I'll be happy if he is successful and gets two 5 year contracts. But his success will determine that.

As far as the thread I responded to ( which I already referenced ) there wasn't negativity by you or Moose.
You're exact quotes were " I'd put my money on Mike Anderson based on his track record more than some others.[/quote]
By Moose
And...

"Agree with what you're saying, however one of the hottest HC's in the country right now (as far as recruiting goes)has zero college(or pro) coaching experience." By Monte

Since you addressed Penny Hardaway who is black HOW would I interpret that and your agreement with Moose as racist?
My point, poorly made, was addressing some who clearly were hoping for young Hurley and were disappointed we hired a sexagenarian. I also had made clear my response had nothing to do with what you said.
Lastly, if I wanted to call out one of you as racist I would and will.[/quote] 72 we all love ya but just stop on this one. Everyone of us has a post that we regret. Just move on and don’t get defensive. We all know you aren’t racist. You made mistake like we all do and just had wrong choice of words which a lot of people noticed. Doesn’t mean you are a bad guy. We all like you and would have fun drinking beers with you. Just a wrongly worded post. It’s all good. We think you are good dude and Monte is good dude. Let’s jist leave it at that
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)
 
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[quote="otis" post=351172][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)[/quote]


I’ll take the ‘other’ side of that, Otis.
Monte’s a rising stud actor...
You know what that means.
Lol.
 
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=351173][quote="otis" post=351172][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)[/quote]


I’ll take the ‘other’ side of that, Otis.
Monte’s a rising stud actor...
You know what that means.
Lol.[/quote] sex drugs and porn star
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=351174][quote="Chicago Days" post=351173][quote="otis" post=351172][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)[/quote]


I’ll take the ‘other’ side of that, Otis.
Monte’s a rising stud actor...
You know what that means.
Lol.[/quote] sex drugs and porn star[/quote]

Gotta laugh.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=351175][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351174][quote="Chicago Days" post=351173][quote="otis" post=351172][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)[/quote]


I’ll take the ‘other’ side of that, Otis.
Monte’s a rising stud actor...
You know what that means.
Lol.[/quote] sex drugs and porn star[/quote]

Gotta laugh.[/quote]

And Maher takes yet another thread off the rails. Guess it’s better than accusations of racism.
 
[quote="mkras99" post=351176][quote="Chicago Days" post=351175][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351174][quote="Chicago Days" post=351173][quote="otis" post=351172][quote="mjmaherjr" post=351163]I’ll say one thing. Monte who I know well doesn’t look older than Anderson and the hotties I see him with on Facebook and Instagram are a hell of a lot younger than me :)[/quote]
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those young "hotties" are his daughter and her GWU friends.;)[/quote]


I’ll take the ‘other’ side of that, Otis.
Monte’s a rising stud actor...
You know what that means.
Lol.[/quote] sex drugs and porn star[/quote]

Gotta laugh.[/quote]

And Maher takes yet another thread off the rails. Guess it’s better than accusations of racism.[/quote]

Absolutely. And as MJM said earlier: “Monte’s an equal opportunity porn lover.”
Lol.
 
[quote="Moose" post=351171]Can’t wait for the original Mike Anderson thread to get locked[/quote]

May as well since from day one few had a warm and fuzzy feeling about coach Anderson. Most of it had to do with not hiring someone else and it has extended to his first recruits who he has had to sign on the 11th hour.

As Billy Joel sang " I didn't start the fire". You all were arguing over the hire over 40 pages ago. My friend Dink even noticed the negativity back then:

"but I have a pretty good memory for the most part, and just didn't recall a bunch of posts where folks were falling over themselves in excitement when Anderson was hired nor when he landed McGriff and Sears.

Of course, you're always gonna have a small group of posters who'll act in that manner anywhere, and it's no different on here. I just don't recall it being a ton of posters.

I really believe a lot of this stems from Cluess not being hired, as I know Monte strongly advocated for the hiring of him. I could be wrong, but I truly believe this to be the case."

Sure, lock the thread and get over the hire.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=351179][quote="Moose" post=351171]Can’t wait for the original Mike Anderson thread to get locked[/quote]

May as well since from day one few had a warm and fuzzy feeling about coach Anderson. Most of it had to do with not hiring someone else and it has extended to his first recruits who he has had to sign on the 11th hour.

As Billy Joel sang " I didn't start the fire". You all were arguing over the hire over 40 pages ago. My friend Dink even noticed the negativity back then:

"but I have a pretty good memory for the most part, and just didn't recall a bunch of posts where folks were falling over themselves in excitement when Anderson was hired nor when he landed McGriff and Sears.

Of course, you're always gonna have a small group of posters who'll act in that manner anywhere, and it's no different on here. I just don't recall it being a ton of posters.

I really believe a lot of this stems from Cluess not being hired, as I know Monte strongly advocated for the hiring of him. I could be wrong, but I truly believe this to be the case."

Sure, lock the thread and get over the hire.[/quote] go through this thread in the beginning and look at all the posters pumped with Anderson. There were few not happy. Recruiting a different story maybe
 
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Mjmaherjr wrote: go through this thread in the beginning and look at all the posters pumped with Anderson. There were few not happy.

Absolutely correct. The general feeling was that Cragg had pulled a deus ex machina to salvage what had been a mess of a hiring process up till then. I know I was thrilled with the hire and have been thrilled by every one of MA's subsequent staff hires.
 
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