Spocky Ramone
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[quote="RedStormNC" post=348499]Chicago Days is on fire with all the research !!![/quote]
Recent trip to the O’Leary’s barn?
Recent trip to the O’Leary’s barn?
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=348498][quote="Monte" post=348487][quote="Chicago Days" post=348485][quote="Monte" post=348482][quote="MarkRedman" post=348407]CMA has secured two commitments pretty quickly
If they are BE caliber players, that's pretty impressive
Especially at this time of the year where the pickings are usually pretty slim
Kudos CMA!!![/quote]
IMO that's a huge "if"[/quote]
I agree Monte that player caliber level is a huge variable.
Lemme say again that I think a key component to CMAs team is depth wherein he plays 9+ guys mixes them in and out, mostly 3* kids full of energy and drive and ‘coaching them up’ they win.
He was 18-16 overall and 8-10 in the SEC last year, playing a horde of freshmen and a gaggle of sophomores.
The totals aren’t impressive but the achievement is, imo.
One irony is I bet Musselman will have a dangerous team next season, comprised mostly of CMA’s young team.
Funny, how that goes.[/quote]
CMA has to grab who he can at this point CD, and hope he finds a few diamonds in the rough. While I haven't had a chance to look over the roster that CMA left behind, I'll assume that most of the kids are relatively highly ranked(top 150?). And while rankings aren't everything, they are something. So lets hope that our 2 new recruits turn out to be those diamonds. We'll all be rooting like hell for them![/quote]
What impresses the hell outta me from CMA's team last year is that of the 9 guys that averaged 15+ mpg, 2 were unranked out of HS (sophs), 3 were ranked #s 256, 305, & 325 (Fr., Jr., R. So.), with 3 ranked #s 139, 158, 171 (all freshmen); the 1 4* was a sophomore and ranked #45 in HS (Daniel Gafford).
One unranked guy logged 29mpg and the redshirt sophomore who ranked #325 in HS averaged 30mpg last year. All rankings are from 247sports.
Very impressive achievement imo by both the players and the coach.
Can't wait for next season to begin.[/quote]
An eye for talent makes a difference. The only one on the recruiting trail was Matt prior to this. We had nobody at all scouting talent to being pieces in. Things will change and we will recruit to our style and not haphazardly any more I’m guessing.
If they are BE caliber players, that's pretty impressive
Especially at this time of the year where the pickings are usually pretty slim
Kudos CMA!!![/quote]
IMO that's a huge "if"[/quote]
I agree Monte that player caliber level is a huge variable.
Lemme say again that I think a key component to CMAs team is depth wherein he plays 9+ guys mixes them in and out, mostly 3* kids full of energy and drive and ‘coaching them up’ they win.
He was 18-16 overall and 8-10 in the SEC last year, playing a horde of freshmen and a gaggle of sophomores.
The totals aren’t impressive but the achievement is, imo.
One irony is I bet Musselman will have a dangerous team next season, comprised mostly of CMA’s young team.
Funny, how that goes.[/quote]
CMA has to grab who he can at this point CD, and hope he finds a few diamonds in the rough. While I haven't had a chance to look over the roster that CMA left behind, I'll assume that most of the kids are relatively highly ranked(top 150?). And while rankings aren't everything, they are something. So lets hope that our 2 new recruits turn out to be those diamonds. We'll all be rooting like hell for them![/quote]
What impresses the hell outta me from CMA's team last year is that of the 9 guys that averaged 15+ mpg, 2 were unranked out of HS (sophs), 3 were ranked #s 256, 305, & 325 (Fr., Jr., R. So.), with 3 ranked #s 139, 158, 171 (all freshmen); the 1 4* was a sophomore and ranked #45 in HS (Daniel Gafford).
One unranked guy logged 29mpg and the redshirt sophomore who ranked #325 in HS averaged 30mpg last year. All rankings are from 247sports.
Very impressive achievement imo by both the players and the coach.
Can't wait for next season to begin.[/quote]
An eye for talent makes a difference. The only one on the recruiting trail was Matt prior to this. We had nobody at all scouting talent to being pieces in. Things will change and we will recruit to our style and not haphazardly any more I’m guessing.
[quote="Paultzman" post=348521]Questions remain about what Mike Anderson might accomplish in Queens. The scrutiny received throughout St. Johns’ coaching search and the hiring of Anderson was rather fierce. However, Anderson has never been one to let outside noise affect how he does his job. The program has seen a handful of transfers and decommitments, which could put the program back another year before contending in the Big East.
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.
[quote="Monte" post=348525][quote="Paultzman" post=348521]Questions remain about what Mike Anderson might accomplish in Queens. The scrutiny received throughout St. Johns’ coaching search and the hiring of Anderson was rather fierce. However, Anderson has never been one to let outside noise affect how he does his job. The program has seen a handful of transfers and decommitments, which could put the program back another year before contending in the Big East.
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]. Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]. Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .
I have a request for you SLYFOX. I would like you to write a post on CMA in a totally positive vein so I can have hope for the future of ST. J's basketball (please do it in the vein that all your posts about Chris Mullin were done in, you know where you made chicken salad out of chicken poop). Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter.
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[quote="bamafan" post=348539]I have a request for you SLYFOX. I would like you to write a post on CMA in a totally positive vein so I can have hope for the future of ST. J's basketball (please do it in the vein that all your posts about Chris Mullin were done in, you know where you made chicken salad out of chicken poop). Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter.[/quote]
I have a request as well.
Paragraphs for the love of god.
I have a request as well.
Paragraphs for the love of god.
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=348531][quote="Monte" post=348525][quote="Paultzman" post=348521]Questions remain about what Mike Anderson might accomplish in Queens. The scrutiny received throughout St. Johns’ coaching search and the hiring of Anderson was rather fierce. However, Anderson has never been one to let outside noise affect how he does his job. The program has seen a handful of transfers and decommitments, which could put the program back another year before contending in the Big East.
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]. Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .[/quote]
Agree with what you’re saying SF, however I don’t think it’s imperative that CMA go out and get a Ponds type of talent/scorer in order for this team to be successful. Neither Hardy nor Hatten, to name a couple of guys, had Ponds-like ability or his lofty ranking coming out of high school. Yet both carried the scoring load for thier teams. As I mentioned earlier, it CMA can bring in the kind of talent that even Norm brought in, based on everything we’ve heard about what a stellar game coach he is, then we will be back where we belong. Let’s face facts, Lavin was able to take Norm’s kids and them to the tournament. And Lavin was never considered a great game coach. So just imagine-based on what some on here who have watched him coach-what CMA can do with the same level of talent Norm brought in???? Plus the fact that apparently he has the ability to spot diamonds in the rough(unranked kids) in a way most other coaches can’t. Geez I can hardly wait for the season to start!
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]. Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .[/quote]
Agree with what you’re saying SF, however I don’t think it’s imperative that CMA go out and get a Ponds type of talent/scorer in order for this team to be successful. Neither Hardy nor Hatten, to name a couple of guys, had Ponds-like ability or his lofty ranking coming out of high school. Yet both carried the scoring load for thier teams. As I mentioned earlier, it CMA can bring in the kind of talent that even Norm brought in, based on everything we’ve heard about what a stellar game coach he is, then we will be back where we belong. Let’s face facts, Lavin was able to take Norm’s kids and them to the tournament. And Lavin was never considered a great game coach. So just imagine-based on what some on here who have watched him coach-what CMA can do with the same level of talent Norm brought in???? Plus the fact that apparently he has the ability to spot diamonds in the rough(unranked kids) in a way most other coaches can’t. Geez I can hardly wait for the season to start!
[quote="Monte" post=348525][quote="Paultzman" post=348521]Questions remain about what Mike Anderson might accomplish in Queens. The scrutiny received throughout St. Johns’ coaching search and the hiring of Anderson was rather fierce. However, Anderson has never been one to let outside noise affect how he does his job. The program has seen a handful of transfers and decommitments, which could put the program back another year before contending in the Big East.
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]
I don’t think he’s a C hire at all. Easily a solid B at worst. Guys never had a losing season. All you need to see in that article is that isn’t a Nebraska article and the guy gives Hoiberg and A+. He’d probably give him an A+ with a cherry on top if he could. Hoiberg’s college coaching record, while good, doesn’t put him above Anderson in objective standards. A “C” I don’t get for a guy who’s never had a losing season and has taken 3 teams and rebuilt them successfully. He’s also one of the highest winning percentages around over same time span. The search debacle has nothing to do with it. Anderson getting a C in this doesn’t really make much sense with context if Hoiberg getting an A+++
But it does seem as though Anderson has a long-term vision. Hiring TJ Cleveland, an assistant coach on Anderson’s staff at Arkansas who is highly respected in the business, was Anderson's first win. He then secured three-star guard Jon McGriff, and the Red Storm are also involved for late bloomer Chris Maidoh. But Anderson’s fate will be determined with the 2020 and 2021 classes and whether he can develop relationships with the powers that be in the region.
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires[/quote]
The grade of a “C” is extremely fair IMO. Of course there are some on here who will claim the writer has an agenda or a vendetta against us.[/quote]
I don’t think he’s a C hire at all. Easily a solid B at worst. Guys never had a losing season. All you need to see in that article is that isn’t a Nebraska article and the guy gives Hoiberg and A+. He’d probably give him an A+ with a cherry on top if he could. Hoiberg’s college coaching record, while good, doesn’t put him above Anderson in objective standards. A “C” I don’t get for a guy who’s never had a losing season and has taken 3 teams and rebuilt them successfully. He’s also one of the highest winning percentages around over same time span. The search debacle has nothing to do with it. Anderson getting a C in this doesn’t really make much sense with context if Hoiberg getting an A+++
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=348531]
Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .[/quote]
Sorry, but that article is nonsense. Grades like this are completely subjective and are biased by perspective. What exactly is he grading? Anderson's career? Skills? Fit at St Johns? None of those would rate a "C".
Overall, if you were to grade Anderson and all of the D1 coaches on a A+, A, A-, B+....F scale, Anderson is probably in the B, B+ or A- range for 99% of the reasonable universe of fans/experts based on his career.
If you graded him as a fit for St Johns, he's an A+ in Character, Ethics, Building and Running a good/clean program fans can be proud of. The ONLY box he doesn't check as a candidate for this job is local ties. Something that can be dealt with by hiring the right staff.
Our hiring process was a shit show, and we lucked into a guy with better credentials than anyone else we were considering when it all went off the rails. Maybe the "C" is an average of an "A" for the candidate and an "F" for the school??? Either way its just BS window dressing.
I'm not sure why you felt the need to make this about Mullin, but since you did...Anderson got fired because he had a down year at the same time they brought in a new AD who wanted to go in a different direction. That's a bad combination for him, but that's life.
Mullin left because he couldn't get an extension after 4 years of incompetence "running" a program. Yes, he racked up 20+ wins in his final year against cupcakes. Yes he earned a single trip to the dance (as a gift), despite spending 4 years "building" a staff that was a model for how NOT to succeed.
Mullin isn't gone because he lost too many games this year, even though its criminal to coach at this school with a player like Ponds and fail to ever post even a .500 record in conference ONE SINGLE, SOLITARY SEASON. He's gone because he had no clue what he was doing: He didn't coach, St Jean did that. He didn't recruit, Matt A handled that BY HIMSELF for 4 years. He didn't manage the personalities on his staff like a CEO, or Rohrssen wouldn't have quit after 10 minutes working with Matt A. He didn't use his figure head status to blow the doors off fund raising. He didn't live in the local gyms recruiting like he promised. He didn't show up for meetings with recruits Matt had lined up for him to close. In fact, he didn't do a whole lot while he was here other than be 'Chris Mullin.'
Anderson is the complete opposite of Mullin in nearly every way. That doesn't mean he's going to succeed here, but it does mean he's more likely too. Will he win here? His track record screams "hell yes!"
Will it be enough for everyone?? Is it ever?
Mullin is NEVER going to coach in college again. Who in their right mind would hire him? MA has spent a lifetime building winning programs, the right way, at every school he's coached. Every school.
MA's run here will eventually end. They all do. And if he does fail, it won't be for lack of effort or by poor design. It will be because this program is dead and just doesn't know it yet.
Agree Monte . The C grade is fair . Getting Figgy to return and Heron as well will upgrade to a A- in my opinion. The Juco addition , Sears and Frosh Recruit, McGriff are still to be determined as to their impact . Just thought it interesting for the Mullin Detractors that Anderson essentially got fired for a lackluster 18-16 record this past year and no NCAAinvite . Just wonder how that record would have been embraced here on this site if those were our results ? While I hope Anderson is successful here , I am sure the Arkansas people were disappointed in his tenure there . Otherwise , he would still be there . We will see if he can develop a Program here in the BE with his style of play . It’s not going to happen without getting a top level player , at the Ponds level , to be the go to Scorer . I hope Anderson finds one , for 2020 as it will be necessary to compete . Anderson has respect among his peers but , will he Win here to the level this site demands ? Stay tuned .[/quote]
Sorry, but that article is nonsense. Grades like this are completely subjective and are biased by perspective. What exactly is he grading? Anderson's career? Skills? Fit at St Johns? None of those would rate a "C".
Overall, if you were to grade Anderson and all of the D1 coaches on a A+, A, A-, B+....F scale, Anderson is probably in the B, B+ or A- range for 99% of the reasonable universe of fans/experts based on his career.
If you graded him as a fit for St Johns, he's an A+ in Character, Ethics, Building and Running a good/clean program fans can be proud of. The ONLY box he doesn't check as a candidate for this job is local ties. Something that can be dealt with by hiring the right staff.
Our hiring process was a shit show, and we lucked into a guy with better credentials than anyone else we were considering when it all went off the rails. Maybe the "C" is an average of an "A" for the candidate and an "F" for the school??? Either way its just BS window dressing.
I'm not sure why you felt the need to make this about Mullin, but since you did...Anderson got fired because he had a down year at the same time they brought in a new AD who wanted to go in a different direction. That's a bad combination for him, but that's life.
Mullin left because he couldn't get an extension after 4 years of incompetence "running" a program. Yes, he racked up 20+ wins in his final year against cupcakes. Yes he earned a single trip to the dance (as a gift), despite spending 4 years "building" a staff that was a model for how NOT to succeed.
Mullin isn't gone because he lost too many games this year, even though its criminal to coach at this school with a player like Ponds and fail to ever post even a .500 record in conference ONE SINGLE, SOLITARY SEASON. He's gone because he had no clue what he was doing: He didn't coach, St Jean did that. He didn't recruit, Matt A handled that BY HIMSELF for 4 years. He didn't manage the personalities on his staff like a CEO, or Rohrssen wouldn't have quit after 10 minutes working with Matt A. He didn't use his figure head status to blow the doors off fund raising. He didn't live in the local gyms recruiting like he promised. He didn't show up for meetings with recruits Matt had lined up for him to close. In fact, he didn't do a whole lot while he was here other than be 'Chris Mullin.'
Anderson is the complete opposite of Mullin in nearly every way. That doesn't mean he's going to succeed here, but it does mean he's more likely too. Will he win here? His track record screams "hell yes!"
Will it be enough for everyone?? Is it ever?
Mullin is NEVER going to coach in college again. Who in their right mind would hire him? MA has spent a lifetime building winning programs, the right way, at every school he's coached. Every school.
MA's run here will eventually end. They all do. And if he does fail, it won't be for lack of effort or by poor design. It will be because this program is dead and just doesn't know it yet.
Based on the article itself, the grades are supposed to be evaluations of their work done since hired for seven recently hired coaches. Imho, grading Anderson (or anyone) less than three weeks after he was hired is really kind of ridiculous. At a minimum, seems fair to wait until the end of the month when he's been there 5 or 6 weeks. Just my opinion.
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=348560]Based on the article itself, the grades are supposed to be evaluations of their work done since hired for seven recently hired coaches. Imho, grading Anderson (or anyone) less than three weeks after he was hired is really kind of ridiculous. At a minimum, seems fair to wait until the end of the month when he's been there 5 or 6 weeks. Just my opinion.[/quote]
Sorry NCJohnnie but he's got 72 hours!
Sorry NCJohnnie but he's got 72 hours!
https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-grading-the-work-of-recent-coaching-hires
I agree with the sentiments of SJUFAN2, NCJohnnies, and bama: the article is premature-biased-ridiculous, take your pick.
CMA gets a 'C' 3 weeks on his job...for what? Seems grade inflation galore with the other guys (except for Buzz and maybe Young), but seems to me the proof-in-the-pudding will be how each of these guys coach their teams next year and the ultimate scorecard: W's to L's.
I don't begrudge Evans his ruminations; he has to make a living,but all grades should be labeled 'incomplete' at this point imo.
I agree with the sentiments of SJUFAN2, NCJohnnies, and bama: the article is premature-biased-ridiculous, take your pick.
CMA gets a 'C' 3 weeks on his job...for what? Seems grade inflation galore with the other guys (except for Buzz and maybe Young), but seems to me the proof-in-the-pudding will be how each of these guys coach their teams next year and the ultimate scorecard: W's to L's.
I don't begrudge Evans his ruminations; he has to make a living,but all grades should be labeled 'incomplete' at this point imo.
LOL. This is the new “journalism” in the era of instant takes and immediate gratification. The article is not even clear what is being “graded”. The hire itself? The “work” done since hire? What does that even mean? Man has been here what, 3 weeks. Laughable. They need to write something to feed their families.
I have no way of knowing if MA is a good hire or not? It probably will take a couple of years or more to have a rationale opinion. Just ignore the noise as that is all this is.
I have no way of knowing if MA is a good hire or not? It probably will take a couple of years or more to have a rationale opinion. Just ignore the noise as that is all this is.
[quote="Monte" post=348516][quote="Making Plays" post=348504][quote="Monte" post=348502][quote="Making Plays" post=348497][quote="Boo Harvey" post=348495][quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=348458]Like the tough nose recruits and between McGriff and Sears it shows that coach immediately understood where our gaps were (a true pg and rebounding) and went out to fill them very quickly.
Question remains if these guys are big east level talent but we will see soon enough.
Very optimistic about the growth so far.[/quote]
Really? What growth? What is the basis for optimism? Nothing even moderately impressive about these recruits to me, but perhaps I’m missing something[/quote]
Google a kid named Mason Jones. He was an unranked JUCO kid, that only had 1 offer and that was to University of Central Arkansas in Southland conference this time last year. He took a visit to Arkansas, and nobody knew who he was at the time, CMA offered him and he ended up averaging 14 PPG and made up one-half of the best three point shooting duo in Arkansas history.
When you look at recruits CMA brings in, you can't pay attention to the stars, most of the kids he gets will be 3-star and low 4-star ranked kids. Some of the JUCO kids they land may not even be ranked on JUCO sites. However, the kids he gets they have spent time evaluating and know that they will fit his system and play hard. You don't go 17 years without ever having a losing season without knowing how to get kids that fit what you're doing. And I'm not saying that to come off like a CMA homer, there will be some recruits he misses on, but if a kid has a hard worker mentality and some talent in them, the staff will get it out of them, these 2 guys that they have landed so far, look like they have that mentality and fit what he wants to do, you also have to factor in that it's May, I've seen schools take less impressive guys this time of year[/quote]
MP I am a bottom line kind of guy. If CMA can consistently have us a top 25 team and consistently get us to the big dance, then I will consider him a successful coach. That's where I feel this program should be and deserves to be. If not, then I won't. Others may set the bar lower. Some here feel that CMA's time at Arkansas was a successful one. Based on my aforementioned criteria, I do not. It's nothing personal, and it's subjective. 3 tourney teams in the last 8 years, and 2 of those years with appearances in the top 25, is not my idea of success. Like I said I'm a bottom line kind of guy. And again, everyone measure success differently. CMA is not going to get our program back to where it belongs by recruiting the same way he did at Arkansas. He's going to have to change his approach and expect he will. He's now running the top college basketball program in the greatest city in the world and in the most fertile recruiting grounds(NYC and NJ) in the country. Un-ranked or low-ranked JC kids and top 300 kids aren't going to get us back to being a consistent top 25/tourney team. It ain't gonna happen. For every unranked JC kid, like Jones, who makes it big, there are countless others who do nothing. For every top 300 kid who makes an impact at this level, there are dozens more who can't play at this level. For CMA to be successful here, by my estimation, he's going to need to bring in mostly top 75-150 high school kids, highly ranked JC kids, a transfer here and there, and then back fill with lower ranked kids. Maybe he'll grab the occasional 5 star kid and maybe he'll occasionally grab a lower ranked kid, like Jones, who will blow up. He should have no problem getting decent talent here. Talent that should have us at or near the top of The Big East every year. As I've said before, right now he gets a pass on anyone that he brings in for next year. I welcome the 2 young men he brought in with open arms. But unlike others on this board, I'm not buying that CMA has any more insight in to the talents of these 2 young men than all the other D1 coaches around or all the recruiting gurus. So I will seriously temper expectations with these young men, and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
There's no secret formula for success:recruit a balanced and talented(enough) roster, coach them well, and you will have a consistently successful program here. Like the last 6 coaches who have been here, CMA has my full support. I like what I've seen so far, but then again I liked what I saw from all of the last 6 coaches when they first arrived. So ultimately, time will tell.[/quote]
There's a lot to digest in that post, I won't get into everything, but I will say this.
When people say CMA didn't have success at Arkansas and only went to tournament 3 years out of 8 years, most of the time people don't know the whole story. CMA took over an Arkansas program that was in APR trouble and had a bad culture of kids cheating on tests, getting kicked out of school, the roster was almost completely different every year. On top of that Arkansas was behind in facilities, and was the only school in the SEC at the time that didn't even have a practice facility. The AD that hired CMA (Jeff Long), said himself he wouldn't even count CMA's first three years against him because he knew it would take at least that to rebuild the program, which he did and left the program in the best shape it's been in for almost 20 years. He's had the 3rd best record in the SEC during his 8 years only behind Kentucky and Florida.
Just to put things in perspective on how bad the program looked before CMA got there, Dana Altman, in the coaching search before CMA was hired, took the Arkansas job, got on campus, did a press conference, then got a chance to look at the situation he inherited and he quit the next day. That's how bad the program looked, if you can find another program that was looking so bad a coach took the job, got on campus and seen what he inherited, and quit the next day, I'd like to hear about it.
CMA was fired at Arkansas simply because he didn't fit into the new AD's plans and there was a BOT member and some good ole boys who had been trying to push CMA out from day 1 because they never liked him because of how things went down with his mentor Nolan Richardson. They seen this down year with a new AD and pounced on the opportunity. Any unbiased fan that looked at the Arkansas situation and seen what CMA did, especially when more than half the conference was cheating and buying players, knows he did a great job rebuilding and making Arkansas an attractive job again.
Also, as far as players, CMA and staff hit on more guys than they miss. We've had one of the top big men in the conference almost every year CMA was there at Arkansas. 1 was a first round pick, and another is set to be a first round pick this year. 2 transfers that CMA brought in played in the NBA this year, one on a 10 day contract the other was a JUCO player on a 2-way contract. He's also had other JUCO players have 10 day contracts, and one in Jaylen Barford that is close. He'll get players here that won't be an issue, he'll get some star players as he did at Arkansas, my point I was making that the majority of the roster when you're playing 11-12 guys will be 3 / low 4 star guys that buy into that system and play hard. That's what makes his system work.[/quote]
I’m not about to start knocking CMA, but let me just say this: I have a very hard time believing that after he came back to Arkansas, cleaned up mess left behind by the previous coach, supposedly got the program back on track, that he the got fired because a few members of the BOT didn’t like him? Because of his connection to NR? Then why would they have hired him in the first place? Not buying it.I’ve read a lot of stuff on the Arkansas board and the local papers. The vast majority of those people thought/think the world of him as a person, but felt that it was time to move on. I saw very very few people defend CMA as a coach, and even fewer people who were sorry to see him go. That says a lot to me. As I’ve said before, no one knows a coach like the fan base.[/quote]
Competitive in a conference with some of the dirtiest programs while maintaining a squeaky clean rep. Sounds like he was a victim of unrealistic expectatations
Question remains if these guys are big east level talent but we will see soon enough.
Very optimistic about the growth so far.[/quote]
Really? What growth? What is the basis for optimism? Nothing even moderately impressive about these recruits to me, but perhaps I’m missing something[/quote]
Google a kid named Mason Jones. He was an unranked JUCO kid, that only had 1 offer and that was to University of Central Arkansas in Southland conference this time last year. He took a visit to Arkansas, and nobody knew who he was at the time, CMA offered him and he ended up averaging 14 PPG and made up one-half of the best three point shooting duo in Arkansas history.
When you look at recruits CMA brings in, you can't pay attention to the stars, most of the kids he gets will be 3-star and low 4-star ranked kids. Some of the JUCO kids they land may not even be ranked on JUCO sites. However, the kids he gets they have spent time evaluating and know that they will fit his system and play hard. You don't go 17 years without ever having a losing season without knowing how to get kids that fit what you're doing. And I'm not saying that to come off like a CMA homer, there will be some recruits he misses on, but if a kid has a hard worker mentality and some talent in them, the staff will get it out of them, these 2 guys that they have landed so far, look like they have that mentality and fit what he wants to do, you also have to factor in that it's May, I've seen schools take less impressive guys this time of year[/quote]
MP I am a bottom line kind of guy. If CMA can consistently have us a top 25 team and consistently get us to the big dance, then I will consider him a successful coach. That's where I feel this program should be and deserves to be. If not, then I won't. Others may set the bar lower. Some here feel that CMA's time at Arkansas was a successful one. Based on my aforementioned criteria, I do not. It's nothing personal, and it's subjective. 3 tourney teams in the last 8 years, and 2 of those years with appearances in the top 25, is not my idea of success. Like I said I'm a bottom line kind of guy. And again, everyone measure success differently. CMA is not going to get our program back to where it belongs by recruiting the same way he did at Arkansas. He's going to have to change his approach and expect he will. He's now running the top college basketball program in the greatest city in the world and in the most fertile recruiting grounds(NYC and NJ) in the country. Un-ranked or low-ranked JC kids and top 300 kids aren't going to get us back to being a consistent top 25/tourney team. It ain't gonna happen. For every unranked JC kid, like Jones, who makes it big, there are countless others who do nothing. For every top 300 kid who makes an impact at this level, there are dozens more who can't play at this level. For CMA to be successful here, by my estimation, he's going to need to bring in mostly top 75-150 high school kids, highly ranked JC kids, a transfer here and there, and then back fill with lower ranked kids. Maybe he'll grab the occasional 5 star kid and maybe he'll occasionally grab a lower ranked kid, like Jones, who will blow up. He should have no problem getting decent talent here. Talent that should have us at or near the top of The Big East every year. As I've said before, right now he gets a pass on anyone that he brings in for next year. I welcome the 2 young men he brought in with open arms. But unlike others on this board, I'm not buying that CMA has any more insight in to the talents of these 2 young men than all the other D1 coaches around or all the recruiting gurus. So I will seriously temper expectations with these young men, and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
There's no secret formula for success:recruit a balanced and talented(enough) roster, coach them well, and you will have a consistently successful program here. Like the last 6 coaches who have been here, CMA has my full support. I like what I've seen so far, but then again I liked what I saw from all of the last 6 coaches when they first arrived. So ultimately, time will tell.[/quote]
There's a lot to digest in that post, I won't get into everything, but I will say this.
When people say CMA didn't have success at Arkansas and only went to tournament 3 years out of 8 years, most of the time people don't know the whole story. CMA took over an Arkansas program that was in APR trouble and had a bad culture of kids cheating on tests, getting kicked out of school, the roster was almost completely different every year. On top of that Arkansas was behind in facilities, and was the only school in the SEC at the time that didn't even have a practice facility. The AD that hired CMA (Jeff Long), said himself he wouldn't even count CMA's first three years against him because he knew it would take at least that to rebuild the program, which he did and left the program in the best shape it's been in for almost 20 years. He's had the 3rd best record in the SEC during his 8 years only behind Kentucky and Florida.
Just to put things in perspective on how bad the program looked before CMA got there, Dana Altman, in the coaching search before CMA was hired, took the Arkansas job, got on campus, did a press conference, then got a chance to look at the situation he inherited and he quit the next day. That's how bad the program looked, if you can find another program that was looking so bad a coach took the job, got on campus and seen what he inherited, and quit the next day, I'd like to hear about it.
CMA was fired at Arkansas simply because he didn't fit into the new AD's plans and there was a BOT member and some good ole boys who had been trying to push CMA out from day 1 because they never liked him because of how things went down with his mentor Nolan Richardson. They seen this down year with a new AD and pounced on the opportunity. Any unbiased fan that looked at the Arkansas situation and seen what CMA did, especially when more than half the conference was cheating and buying players, knows he did a great job rebuilding and making Arkansas an attractive job again.
Also, as far as players, CMA and staff hit on more guys than they miss. We've had one of the top big men in the conference almost every year CMA was there at Arkansas. 1 was a first round pick, and another is set to be a first round pick this year. 2 transfers that CMA brought in played in the NBA this year, one on a 10 day contract the other was a JUCO player on a 2-way contract. He's also had other JUCO players have 10 day contracts, and one in Jaylen Barford that is close. He'll get players here that won't be an issue, he'll get some star players as he did at Arkansas, my point I was making that the majority of the roster when you're playing 11-12 guys will be 3 / low 4 star guys that buy into that system and play hard. That's what makes his system work.[/quote]
I’m not about to start knocking CMA, but let me just say this: I have a very hard time believing that after he came back to Arkansas, cleaned up mess left behind by the previous coach, supposedly got the program back on track, that he the got fired because a few members of the BOT didn’t like him? Because of his connection to NR? Then why would they have hired him in the first place? Not buying it.I’ve read a lot of stuff on the Arkansas board and the local papers. The vast majority of those people thought/think the world of him as a person, but felt that it was time to move on. I saw very very few people defend CMA as a coach, and even fewer people who were sorry to see him go. That says a lot to me. As I’ve said before, no one knows a coach like the fan base.[/quote]
Competitive in a conference with some of the dirtiest programs while maintaining a squeaky clean rep. Sounds like he was a victim of unrealistic expectatations
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[quote="Monte" post=348580][quote="Making Plays" post=348567][quote="Monte" post=348516]
I’m not about to start knocking CMA, but let me just say this: I have a very hard time believing that after he came back to Arkansas, cleaned up mess left behind by the previous coach, supposedly got the program back on track, that he the got fired because a few members of the BOT didn’t like him? Because of his connection to NR? Then why would they have hired him in the first place? Not buying it.I’ve read a lot of stuff on the Arkansas board and the local papers. The vast majority of those people thought/think the world of him as a person, but felt that it was time to move on. I saw very very few people defend CMA as a coach, and even fewer people who were sorry to see him go. That says a lot to me. As I’ve said before, no one knows a coach like the fan base.[/quote]
If I said anything in my post about the condition of the program before CMA arrived that was factually incorrect, please feel free to correct me. All the information I said about Dana Altman taking the job for a day, the players getting kicked out of school, heavy roster turnover, APR problems, all of that can be easily googled and verified. I didn't exaggerate or add anything to it.
As far as your question on why they hired CMA in the first place when a BOT did not want him and other other people didn't want him as well. It's pretty simple Jeff Long, the AD that got ran out of town, was the person that hired him he wasn't an Arkansas person and he wasn't around during Nolan's tenure. Even though CMA was considered a home run hire by most outside people there was still some with influence at Arkansas that didn't want him hired because of his connection to Nolan and have been trying to run him out since day 1. I know this because I live around these people and hear it all the time. Google Nolan Richardson and Arkansas and everything he went through down here. I also wasn't exaggerating in a post a while ago when I said they killed his farm animals down here and was calling him with death threats, when he had a down season. Nolan Richardson is in every basketball HOF, and it took Arkansas 20+ years to name the court after him and still was met with backlash from certain people.
You're free to "buy" what you want to buy and listen to who you want to. I'm just sharing what I know and the actual facts. Kinda funny that you read a few message board posts and a newspaper article and know more about the UofA than someone that literally lives about a mile and a half away. And I'll say this again, if anything I said above is factually incorrect please feel free to correct it with the source. I know a lot of people who were upset about the firing, I can't tell you how many facebook and twitter conversations I seen around the time. You can click on CMA's departure speech he posted on twitter and see all the support he had.[/quote]
I didnt read “a few” message board posts and newspapers articles, I read a lot. Anyhow if it came across as me questioning your statement about the condition of the program before CMA arrived, I didn’t mean it that way. I have no doubt that the program was a mess before CMA arrived, and I know he cleaned it up. So if I understand you correctly, his dismissal had little to do with performance and a lot to do with politics? Regardless of reason(s)he was let go, I stand by my assertion that the large majority of the fan base felt it was time to move on. Maybe they’ll come to regret that down the road. Hopefully your loss is our gain. Answer me this question: what are CMA’s flaws/weaknesses as a coach?[/quote]
I wouldn't say a "large majority" of the fan base felt it was time to move on. The people I speak with were actually shocked he was let go this year, especially with all the guys he had returning and how hard they were competing, plus the naming of Nolan Richardson court, I know insiders around the program felt confident in him returning, since his team was so young.
Only place you could read and get that assumption that the majority of the fan base thought it was time for him to go is from is Hogville. Which the owner of that board and his mods have been vocal in wanting to get rid of CMA for years, they actually ban people over there for saying positive things about CMA. There was a Hog fan on the Johnnystorm site that was just posting he was banned there for saying something positive about CMA.
And I'll put it like this, if those are the people you are listening to and basing your opinions off of that, I'll remind you those are mostly the same people that thought Nolan Richardson should have been fired and didn't deserve his name on the court. You mentioned politics, this is like that, you can find and read what you want to support whatever believe. I don't really get into all that, I'm a facts based guy, and as I said before if any of of my information doesn't check out and is untrue, please feel free to correct me.
As far as strength/weaknesses
I think CMA's biggest weakness is sometimes he tries to force the press when it's not working or try to force 10-11 guys on the court, when he may only have 8 or 9 guys that can actually play. It's frustrating sometimes because you see some kids that look really bad at times and CMA will keep playing them. It actually pays off in the long run because it develops the kids down the line, but sometimes very frustrating.
His strengths are he knows what he wants to do and he has lazer like focus on that on, he comes in with a game plan and usually gets his kids to stick to it. Also, If a kid has talent, he'll get it out of them, kids love to play for him, love the system, he's a players coach. Also, you'll never have to worry about the team not giving effort, he doesn't tolerate that at all, you want to get in CMA's dog house, go out there and don't show effort, he'll tell you straight up you won't have to worry about going out there anymore you'll be on the bench with him, he doesn't care who you are or what your star rating is.
I’m not about to start knocking CMA, but let me just say this: I have a very hard time believing that after he came back to Arkansas, cleaned up mess left behind by the previous coach, supposedly got the program back on track, that he the got fired because a few members of the BOT didn’t like him? Because of his connection to NR? Then why would they have hired him in the first place? Not buying it.I’ve read a lot of stuff on the Arkansas board and the local papers. The vast majority of those people thought/think the world of him as a person, but felt that it was time to move on. I saw very very few people defend CMA as a coach, and even fewer people who were sorry to see him go. That says a lot to me. As I’ve said before, no one knows a coach like the fan base.[/quote]
If I said anything in my post about the condition of the program before CMA arrived that was factually incorrect, please feel free to correct me. All the information I said about Dana Altman taking the job for a day, the players getting kicked out of school, heavy roster turnover, APR problems, all of that can be easily googled and verified. I didn't exaggerate or add anything to it.
As far as your question on why they hired CMA in the first place when a BOT did not want him and other other people didn't want him as well. It's pretty simple Jeff Long, the AD that got ran out of town, was the person that hired him he wasn't an Arkansas person and he wasn't around during Nolan's tenure. Even though CMA was considered a home run hire by most outside people there was still some with influence at Arkansas that didn't want him hired because of his connection to Nolan and have been trying to run him out since day 1. I know this because I live around these people and hear it all the time. Google Nolan Richardson and Arkansas and everything he went through down here. I also wasn't exaggerating in a post a while ago when I said they killed his farm animals down here and was calling him with death threats, when he had a down season. Nolan Richardson is in every basketball HOF, and it took Arkansas 20+ years to name the court after him and still was met with backlash from certain people.
You're free to "buy" what you want to buy and listen to who you want to. I'm just sharing what I know and the actual facts. Kinda funny that you read a few message board posts and a newspaper article and know more about the UofA than someone that literally lives about a mile and a half away. And I'll say this again, if anything I said above is factually incorrect please feel free to correct it with the source. I know a lot of people who were upset about the firing, I can't tell you how many facebook and twitter conversations I seen around the time. You can click on CMA's departure speech he posted on twitter and see all the support he had.[/quote]
I didnt read “a few” message board posts and newspapers articles, I read a lot. Anyhow if it came across as me questioning your statement about the condition of the program before CMA arrived, I didn’t mean it that way. I have no doubt that the program was a mess before CMA arrived, and I know he cleaned it up. So if I understand you correctly, his dismissal had little to do with performance and a lot to do with politics? Regardless of reason(s)he was let go, I stand by my assertion that the large majority of the fan base felt it was time to move on. Maybe they’ll come to regret that down the road. Hopefully your loss is our gain. Answer me this question: what are CMA’s flaws/weaknesses as a coach?[/quote]
I wouldn't say a "large majority" of the fan base felt it was time to move on. The people I speak with were actually shocked he was let go this year, especially with all the guys he had returning and how hard they were competing, plus the naming of Nolan Richardson court, I know insiders around the program felt confident in him returning, since his team was so young.
Only place you could read and get that assumption that the majority of the fan base thought it was time for him to go is from is Hogville. Which the owner of that board and his mods have been vocal in wanting to get rid of CMA for years, they actually ban people over there for saying positive things about CMA. There was a Hog fan on the Johnnystorm site that was just posting he was banned there for saying something positive about CMA.
And I'll put it like this, if those are the people you are listening to and basing your opinions off of that, I'll remind you those are mostly the same people that thought Nolan Richardson should have been fired and didn't deserve his name on the court. You mentioned politics, this is like that, you can find and read what you want to support whatever believe. I don't really get into all that, I'm a facts based guy, and as I said before if any of of my information doesn't check out and is untrue, please feel free to correct me.
As far as strength/weaknesses
I think CMA's biggest weakness is sometimes he tries to force the press when it's not working or try to force 10-11 guys on the court, when he may only have 8 or 9 guys that can actually play. It's frustrating sometimes because you see some kids that look really bad at times and CMA will keep playing them. It actually pays off in the long run because it develops the kids down the line, but sometimes very frustrating.
His strengths are he knows what he wants to do and he has lazer like focus on that on, he comes in with a game plan and usually gets his kids to stick to it. Also, If a kid has talent, he'll get it out of them, kids love to play for him, love the system, he's a players coach. Also, you'll never have to worry about the team not giving effort, he doesn't tolerate that at all, you want to get in CMA's dog house, go out there and don't show effort, he'll tell you straight up you won't have to worry about going out there anymore you'll be on the bench with him, he doesn't care who you are or what your star rating is.
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[quote="MCNPA" post=348591][quote="Chicago Days" post=348585][quote="JackofVirginia" post=348577][quote="bamafan" post=348414]Don't know what his production level will be for us but he is the type of player I would like to have 3 or 4 of on my roster.[/quote]
What about Earlington? I think if given the playing time he could also be a bruiser for us. And just how many more openings do we have?[/quote]
Two more ships to give if the roster stays 'as is' currently.[/quote]
That assuming Keita is gone or staying?[/quote]
Hi MCNPA, sorry I missed this. Right, that's assuming he's gone; he declared for the 'portal'...
What about Earlington? I think if given the playing time he could also be a bruiser for us. And just how many more openings do we have?[/quote]
Two more ships to give if the roster stays 'as is' currently.[/quote]
That assuming Keita is gone or staying?[/quote]
Hi MCNPA, sorry I missed this. Right, that's assuming he's gone; he declared for the 'portal'...
I didn’t want to continue an already long thread by using quotes, but I just want to say Thank you to Making Plays for stepping up to correct any possible misinformation on our new coach.
Now he could be fooling us, but his post are well thought. So for now I will continue to listen to someone who has followed a program for a long time only to come here because of our new coach.
Now he could be fooling us, but his post are well thought. So for now I will continue to listen to someone who has followed a program for a long time only to come here because of our new coach.
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The Mission of Coach Anderson is to win the BE Conference from time to time . Make the NCAA’s 4 of 5 years and be regularly ranked in the top 25 . To do that , we need kids who can compete at a BE Level . Not sure if Anderson ever won the SEC title but , it’s a tough league . Like the BE . Cooley has done well , except this Year at PC , he gets the occasional 4-5 star kid but , basically finishes in the middle of the BE pack . We need to aim higher and look to overtake Xavier , Marquette, Villanova regularly . I don’t think you can win in the BE with a Roster of just 2,3 and the occasional 4 star kid . No matter if you press all game . It won’t happen .
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=348577][quote="bamafan" post=348414]Don't know what his production level will be for us but he is the type of player I would like to have 3 or 4 of on my roster.[/quote]
What about Earlington? I think if given the playing time he could also be a bruiser for us. And just how many more openings do we have?[/quote]
I like Earlington too. He is a big boy and an ex-defensive end so he is tough and strong. If he was 6’8 instead of 6’5 he could wreak havoc in the paint. Plus he made the most of any minutes he was given on the court.
What about Earlington? I think if given the playing time he could also be a bruiser for us. And just how many more openings do we have?[/quote]
I like Earlington too. He is a big boy and an ex-defensive end so he is tough and strong. If he was 6’8 instead of 6’5 he could wreak havoc in the paint. Plus he made the most of any minutes he was given on the court.
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