MICHIGAN (@MSG), Mon., Nov. 13, 6:30p, FS-1

monte said:
Won't debate the numbers with you, but cannot recall another opening night with that amount of fans in attendance, and with that level of excitement. In any event, it's way too early to call any attendance level "dangerous". Like I've said in my prior posts, put winning product on the court and the attendance will take care of itself. I'll remind you that I told you this in a few months when Rick has the team on a role and the Garden rockin'!
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I will give you that there was excitement in the building for an opener vs. stony brook level team. Not sure if you were there but the new lighting (last season installed) blacks out the second tier seats during play so even if you are in attendance, hard to tell how crowded it is , and if at home not at all.

Not disputing that if we get ranked attendance will pick up but what i am saying that until then unless the visiting team brings a crowd the big arenas will have lots of empty seats.

There's a reason we played few msg games vs. Hand picked opponents. We didnt play the best teams, we played weekend games against teams whose fans will buy lots of seats.

If you are right, until we start winning, we will once again be playing on a more neutral court at msg when uconn, nova, georgetown come to town. Seton hall will bring their own fans also.

Not chiding anyone here to come but there are realities. If these are the real fans and not showing up en masse what makes us think casual fans will come either.

Think about this. If we don't win tomorrow, and the likelihood is we come home from Charleston 2-1. With two early losses and west virginia away, it may be a slow climb to being ranked and thus attendance will lag until then. Tomorrows game becomes pretty important then. Which is why Rick was all over the city promoting the game saying he wanted a sellout.

it is what it is, and if history is any indicator in 2011 attendance didn't spike until we got ranked during the end of the 8 game win streak in late January early feb.
 
monte said:
Won't debate the numbers with you, but I cannot recall another opening night with that amount of fans in attendance, and with that level of excitement. In any event, it's way too early to call any attendance level "dangerous". Like I've said in my prior posts, put a winning product on the court and the attendance will take care of itself. I'll remind you that I told you this in a few months when Rick has the team on a role and the Garden rockin'!
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A Rickroll?
 
Beasts of the East said:
I will give you that there was excitement in the building for an opener vs. stony brook level team. Not sure if you were there but the new lighting (last season installed) blacks out the second tier seats during play so even if you are in attendance, hard to tell how crowded it is , and if at home not at all.

Not disputing that if we get ranked attendance will pick up but what i am saying that until then unless the visiting team brings a crowd the big arenas will have lots of empty seats.

There's a reason we played few msg games vs. Hand picked opponents. We didnt play the best teams, we played weekend games against teams whose fans will buy lots of seats.

If you are right, until we start winning, we will once again be playing on a more neutral court at msg when uconn, nova, georgetown come to town. Seton hall will bring their own fans also.

Not chiding anyone here to come but there are realities. If these are the real fans and not showing up en masse what makes us think casual fans will come either.

Think about this. If we don't win tomorrow, and the likelihood is we come home from Charleston 2-1. With two early losses and west virginia away, it may be a slow climb to being ranked and thus attendance will lag until then. Tomorrows game becomes pretty important then. Which is why Rick was all over the city promoting the game saying he wanted a sellout.

it is what it is, and if history is any indicator in 2011 attendance didn't spike until we got ranked during the end of the 8 game win streak in late January early feb.
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Yes I was there, which is why I was able to speak on attendance and the level of excitement in CA. I will also be there tomorrow. Rick is not only a savvy guy, but he's a new yorker. He understands the long time/diehard fan base and the potential fan base(if we win) as well as anyone. Rick will do his best to drive up attendance numbers by promoting the team and the game, but he knows full well that it's going to take success on the court to move the attendance needle a whole lot.

I highly doubt he or anyone else at the school is going to panic regardless of what the attendence numbers are tomorrow.
 
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Good Morning Johnnie Nation it’s GAMEDAY! What better way to get ready for our first MSG tilt than preview the matchup with Assistant Coach Bob Walsh.

Coach Walsh will be joining the podcast all season and in this first episode we discuss Stony Brook and his takeaways from the win, the week of practice leading up to Michigan, the players St. John’s will have to stop on the Wolverines, how the staff gets ready for this game while also having to get ready for the Charleston Classic later in the week, And keys to victory if St. John’s wants to leave MSG on Monday with a win!

The first episode of the season long Coachcast with Bob Walsh is here. We’re very fortunate to get this peak behind the curtain and I’m so excited to bring it to you! Please enjoy!



 
SJUDave said:
Good Morning Johnnie Nation it’s GAMEDAY! What better way to get ready for our first MSG tilt than preview the matchup with Assistant Coach Bob Walsh.

Coach Walsh will be joining the podcast all season and in this first episode we discuss Stony Brook and his takeaways from the win, the week of practice leading up to Michigan, the players St. John’s will have to stop on the Wolverines, how the staff gets ready for this game while also having to get ready for the Charleston Classic later in the week, And keys to victory if St. John’s wants to leave MSG on Monday with a win!

The first episode of the season long Coachcast with Bob Walsh is here. We’re very fortunate to get this peak behind the curtain and I’m so excited to bring it to you! Please enjoy!



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You are the best brother, best way to wake up on GameDay with a game preview!
 
Eric said:
Beast, respect all your posts etc, but I think you have to wait a couple more games at the garden to take this battle up with more weight. I think you will not have to worry about it.
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Thanks for the advice. I know you're right but after what I did in my career, I'm very big on ROI and trending and so far we aren't trending with enough sales that indicate a sudden bump in single game tix based on just good old solid product on the court.

We are all in agreement that it will take significant winning to start packing msg with our own fans and not uconn, villanova and the usual suspects.

By itself that's frustrating to me (and a lot of other ticket holders and to sju leadership) but just a reality. I believe with all my heart the ardent remote fans we have would be all in if still in the area.

So it is was it is and I'm in agreement with most of those who posted reasons for the so-so fan response. Yesterday was a bad day for me and we move on.

Hopefully we put 12 -13k+ in the garden tonight and beat Michigan
Go Johnnies.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Thanks for the advice. I know you're right but after what I did in my career, I'm very big on ROI and trending and so far we aren't trending with enough sales that indicate a sudden bump in single game tix based on just good old solid product on the court.

We are all in agreement that it will take significant winning to start packing msg with our own fans and not uconn, villanova and the usual suspects.

By itself that's frustrating to me (and a lot of other ticket holders and to sju leadership) but just a reality. I believe with all my heart the ardent remote fans we have would be all in if still in the area.

So it is was it is and I'm in agreement with most of those who posted reasons for the so-so fan response. Yesterday was a bad day for me and we move on.

Hopefully we put 12 -13k+ in the garden tonight and beat Michigan
Go Johnnies.
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Wouldn't it be great if---

At halftime, "We have an announcement from Coach Pitino ,
and his latest recruit.'

" I have just signed a written commitment to represent St. John's University -----------------"

the crowd goes crazy, with the rafters reverberating and we go on to beat the

Wolverines by 15 pts.
 
Exciting (and nerve-wracking) because any opinions I have on this team are only based on watching them play Stonybrook (I didn’t get to see the exhibitions this year) which is about as small of a sample size as you can get. I love the make up of the team (shooting and rebounding) but also don’t want to be too much of a homer letting emotions place unrealistic expectations on a first year team we’re just getting familiar with.

That said…A win would be phenomenal, a competitive loss would be understandable against this level of opponent in game 2 of year 1 and getting pushed around and rolled in the first big, MSG game would be incredibly disappointing. Just looking for the guys to show up prepared and have a chance to win down the stretch. Will be a revealing game about who this team is one way or another.
 
Queens_Ball said:
Exciting (and nerve-wracking) because any opinions I have on this team are only based on watching them play Stonybrook (I didn’t get to see the exhibitions this year) which is about as small of a sample size as you can get. I love the make up of the team (shooting and rebounding) but also don’t want to be too much of a homer letting emotions place unrealistic expectations on a first year team we’re just getting familiar with.

That said…A win would be phenomenal, a competitive loss would be understandable against this level of opponent in game 2 of year 1 and getting pushed around and rolled in the first big, MSG game would be incredibly disappointing. Just looking for the guys to show up prepared and have a chance to win down the stretch. Will be a revealing game about who this team is one way or another.
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Having seen Michigan, I will say they are a good team and this won’t be easy. Well-coached and disciplined. They also haven’t played a team like us. In addition, we know that Rick P has done all the film and prep work and know what they do. In the past we’d be less prepared than we are right now. Hopefully a good show and a win tonight, but we will see.
 
Here's something i just re-learned recently either by watching Pitino vids or Bob Knight vids that i will pay special attention to this season:

The most important 3 minutes of a game begin at the start of the second half.

The old John Thompson Ewing teams would open the second half by unleashing a furious defensive attack that stunned opponents like a scorpion attack.

Curious to see how Rick's teams respond starting tonight.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Thanks for the advice. I know you're right but after what I did in my career, I'm very big on ROI and trending and so far we aren't trending with enough sales that indicate a sudden bump in single game tix based on just good old solid product on the court.

We are all in agreement that it will take significant winning to start packing msg with our own fans and not uconn, villanova and the usual suspects.

By itself that's frustrating to me (and a lot of other ticket holders and to sju leadership) but just a reality. I believe with all my heart the ardent remote fans we have would be all in if still in the area.

So it is was it is and I'm in agreement with most of those who posted reasons for the so-so fan response. Yesterday was a bad day for me and we move on.

Hopefully we put 12 -13k+ in the garden tonight and beat Michigan
Go Johnnies.
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Would this frustrated leadership be some of the same people who had this program in the toilet for the better part of the last 25 years? Just curious. Looking forward to the time when you can give this topic a rest already.
 
Queens_Ball said:
Exciting (and nerve-wracking) because any opinions I have on this team are only based on watching them play Stonybrook (I didn’t get to see the exhibitions this year) which is about as small of a sample size as you can get. I love the make up of the team (shooting and rebounding) but also don’t want to be too much of a homer letting emotions place unrealistic expectations on a first year team we’re just getting familiar with.

That said…A win would be phenomenal, a competitive loss would be understandable against this level of opponent in game 2 of year 1 and getting pushed around and rolled in the first big, MSG game would be incredibly disappointing. Just looking for the guys to show up prepared and have a chance to win down the stretch. Will be a revealing game about who this team is one way or another.
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In my best Forrest Gump voice life is like a box of chocolates you never know what you’re going to get until you open it up. 🙂 My confidence is in Pitino. I suspect our guys will step up. If not I have faith he’ll fix it.
 
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