I can't stand waiting for Lagares anymore. He is good on D but he will never hit enough plus he is always injured. I would like someone like Lorenzo Cain (FA) who plays defense and can bat at the top of the lineup. He is not a power guy but he will hit for average and hit 10-15 Hrs. He also adds some speed. Conforto profiles better in RF and 3rd in the batting order. Hopefully, Rosario starts to prove he can hit as his speed could allow him to bat 1 or 2 in the order. Oh well lots of questions but they will need to spend some (not wildly) to make the defense and the line-up make more sense. This of course assumes Rosario and Smith hold down SS and 1B. We certainly will have plenty of time (and questions) to talk about this as THIS season has been cooked since May.
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I can't stand waiting for Lagares anymore. He is good on D but he will never hit enough plus he is always injured. I would like someone like Lorenzo Cain (FA) who plays defense and can bat at the top of the lineup. He is not a power guy but he will hit for average and hit 10-15 Hrs. He also adds some speed. Conforto profiles better in RF and 3rd in the batting order. Hopefully, Rosario starts to prove he can hit as his speed could allow him to bat 1 or 2 in the order. Oh well lots of questions but they will need to spend some (not wildly) to make the defense and the line-up make more sense. This of course assumes Rosario and Smith hold down SS and 1B. We certainly will have plenty of time (and questions) to talk about this as THIS season has been cooked since May.
Who trades away more starters for nothing? JETS OR METS
ErickTheRed
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A 2b who has a bad back and hamstring batting 260? Not much to ask for in return.
Spocky Ramone
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While we have no luck, I can name a team that has less...
beast of the east
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All salary dumps of guys who are free agents.
I hope the Mets spend. I did a quick look on Cot's. Payroll was around $154 million this year with about $70-77 million coming off the books for next year. Plus $15 million from insurance for David Wright. The Mets should have money to spend even with increases for arbitration eligible players.
I'd like to see the Mets get another big bat and solidify the middle of the defense. CF (Dyson or Cain), a catcher, and pony up for Moose. Wilmer and TJ can vie for second.
I'd like to see the Mets get another big bat and solidify the middle of the defense. CF (Dyson or Cain), a catcher, and pony up for Moose. Wilmer and TJ can vie for second.
This is really the heart of the issue. I have no problem with shedding the FA's. Bruce, Walker, Reed and potentially Granderson and Cabrera all will come of the books at the end of the season one way or the other. The Mets so far have saved some money this year by having the other team pick up at least some or all of the salary. OK its a business. If they like the player they can attempt to resign them on the open market.
However, as others have mentioned this is the Wilpons we are talking about. I don't want to hear that Rivera/Cabrera are vying for second base and that Wilmer Flores is the answer at third, while praying for Wright to return. Or that Lagares is coming back with Nimmo platooning with him. None of that works.
They need to spend or trade accordingly to do exactly what you outlined above. None of which is unreasonable or outrageous. Alderson needs to earn his money and the Wilpons need to spend fairly to keep a competitive team on the field. Anything short of that then the Mets should be blasted for these moves. Honestly, I will be waiting to renew my 3 tickets for next season until they prove to me that they plan on doing something with the "saved" money.
beast of the east
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Met-Yankee games in August have zero buzz.
When I was a kid, the spring training Mets vs. Yankees Mayor's trophy game meant more - bragging rights, fan interest.
This series illustrates everything wrong with baseball. If the game would ever mean anything in terms of the matchup it would be before the trading deadline, where teams now play out the string with 2 months left to go by means of depleted rosters and massive player selloffs.
A generation ago, Bowie Kuhn blocked the Oakland A's from making a massive selloff of high priced stars to the Yankees because the trade wasn't balanced. Today, it's an accepted practice around this time of year. Cashing your chips in late July by getting rid of salary is incredibly detrimental to baseball. Fully one third of the season for many teams is now a total joke, and fans buying their tickets early in the season for August and September what appeared to be competitive games instead watch minor league prospects and bench players going through the motions.
When I was a kid, the spring training Mets vs. Yankees Mayor's trophy game meant more - bragging rights, fan interest.
This series illustrates everything wrong with baseball. If the game would ever mean anything in terms of the matchup it would be before the trading deadline, where teams now play out the string with 2 months left to go by means of depleted rosters and massive player selloffs.
A generation ago, Bowie Kuhn blocked the Oakland A's from making a massive selloff of high priced stars to the Yankees because the trade wasn't balanced. Today, it's an accepted practice around this time of year. Cashing your chips in late July by getting rid of salary is incredibly detrimental to baseball. Fully one third of the season for many teams is now a total joke, and fans buying their tickets early in the season for August and September what appeared to be competitive games instead watch minor league prospects and bench players going through the motions.
Very well said. By the way, can I interest you in 3 tickets for Reds/Mets the weekend of Sept. 8-10
? Somehow I can hear you laughing from here! Exactly why I feel so strongly as to why Alderson and crew should spend the "alleged" savings accordingly. I can accept the screw job or at least tolerate better if it is used to give us a better chance next year. Somehow, I expect to be disappointed. MLB 2018 come get some $$$!
beast of the east
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I'm a Met's fan a very long time. In the old days, as a fan you'd want to see if a guy like Bruce could finish the year with 40 home runs and 110 RBIs. This year he will finish in Cleveland. I guess we can hope Conforto finishes strong, or that Rosario or Smith show promise.
In the old days, you'd wait for September callups, hoping some rookies could help a team edge closer to .500. Now, sell the players off and .500 or not doesn't even matter. Management doesn't care at all, the players don't care, so why should the fans.
Agreed. I'm ready for football season and to meet the 114 guys back at Belmont for some gambling.
Even when we sucked a few years ago I'd find myself still interested in games just because I liked watching Lagares play center. All the blown leads this year were like a big kick in the balls
JackofVirginia
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What's so sad is our bullpen, truly Alderson did a horrible job. It looks as if we will need to either trade or go free agency for a catcher, third baseman and relievers next year. Nothing on the farm .
JackofVirginia
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Glad to see Bruce and Walker succeed with their new teams. Found it hard to believe the Rays had Duda batting second for a while. Still want to resign Bruce after the season.
Not going to be easy, especially since he's scorching hot for the Indians.
Not going to be easy, especially since he's scorching hot for the Indians.
Its Rene Rivera (Ron is an NFL coach) and he was not traded. He was let go on a waiver claim. Mets way of saving more money. Honestly, he was always miscast here as he got too much playing time. He is a good defensive catcher who is painfully slow and cannot hit a lick until he occasionally runs in to one. Mets are just to cheap or inept to find a more rounded catcher. Rivera is nothing more than emergency option should your top 2 guys get hurt.
