Max Hooper

Max is 6'7 and that makes it much harder to close out on him. Whoever is on him won't be able to help at all and that will open things up tremendously. If he can shoot off a curl, that makes him much, much more dangerous. 500/584 is absurd. The overwhelming majority of players in D-1 can't do that from the FT line. It is the definition of automatic.
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I like hearing that he's an extra hard worker. And this sounds great in theory and I am very much looking forward to seeing him play for us, but how do you answer the critics that say that there are a lot of great shooters that aren't D1 caliber players and that in Hooper's case, he wasn't a factor at Harvard so how will he ever be a Big East level player? Not knocking him just repeating arguments I've heard. And has he actually grown to a legit 6'7" ?
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Don't under estimate how awful Tommy Amaker is as a coach.
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Results count. I don't believe Tommy can't coach.
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I am basing it totally on results. 16 years coaching - he made the NCAA 3 times. He was awful at the Hall, taking a team with 3 players that played in the NBA (one still playing) and 2 others that had good overseas career to a 16-15 record and a first round NIT exit. He parlayed that into 6 years of futility at UM. At Harvard he only managed to recruit players who were dismissed for cheating.

My point is I don't trust his opinion on players and I am going to wait until Hooper plays a few games before I judge weather he will make an impact or not at STJ.
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I'm not seeing anything like the numbers you are that determined Tommy to be awful coach. Bad memory so I looked stuff up a couple of times. You got Tommy going to on NIT with the hall. I see 4 post season appearances in 4 years that include a NCAA sweet sixteen. The Michigan team he took over was loaded down with sanctions but he did go to 2 NIT finals, winning one. True, not good enough for Michigan and he was fired from a tough job in a rough league. What he has done at Harvard can be described as great. One of his recruiting classes ranked as the best in Ivy history. I love the Johnnies, only team I root for, but if I had to come up with a Hall coach I liked it would be Louie Orr. I more then liked Louie, I had him down for being a great guy. At the time Amaker went to Michigan I was pissed at him for running out on the Hall. You might want to get your info straight on Tommy and if I got it wrong let me know. If you don't want to bother, thats fine too.
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Coaches change, both for the better and the worse. My informationI (directly from those affected and people I know and trust) about Amaker when he was at Michigan was that he did some players and high school coaches dirty and wound up in a mess of his own making.
 
I feel bad for Hooper.

Being a shooter in this offense is like being an opera star with laryngitis.
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Didn't seem to stop DLo from getting his shot off. The real key is having an accurate and quick release. If Max's a catch and shoot guy let's hope he's got that hair-trigger release.
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We are clearly watching different teams.
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So you never saw DLo dribble to free himself and shoot? You never saw Marco get the ball, be open for a second and hesitate just to have an opponent close on him with the result being a pass and a missed 3 point opportunity? I hear you and others about our offensive sets, but it's also on the players to be able to either create shots or get off their shot without hesitating.
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. Harrison could certainly create for himself. Until everyone we played realized that there was no need to worry about a ball screen, a pick and roll, Harrison moving without the ball and receiving for a catch and shoot, or any other basketball play other than a one on one. Thus that became one on two or three and Harrison's offense became mostly driving and getting fouled.

You aren't wrong that Marco waits too long on the release but most spot shooters are used to going to a position and getting the ball in rhythm as opposed to getting it chucked to them randomly when everything else breaks down.

So if there isn't a come to Jesus moment for our offensive strategy (put the emphasis there wherever you want) then poor Max is likely to be misused and frustrated even if it turns out he is a deadeye marksman.

Hope I am wrong but I can only go by what I have seen and that's basically streetball
 
Predictably, prior to his first game, he will be touted by several on this site as the next coming of Chris Mullin. At the end of the season, he will be tabbed an underachiever or a player not worthy of play on a Big East roster.

It's the same old song.
 
I feel bad for Hooper.

Being a shooter in this offense is like being an opera star with laryngitis.
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Didn't seem to stop DLo from getting his shot off. The real key is having an accurate and quick release. If Max's a catch and shoot guy let's hope he's got that hair-trigger release.
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We are clearly watching different teams.
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So you never saw DLo dribble to free himself and shoot? You never saw Marco get the ball, be open for a second and hesitate just to have an opponent close on him with the result being a pass and a missed 3 point opportunity? I hear you and others about our offensive sets, but it's also on the players to be able to either create shots or get off their shot without hesitating.
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. Harrison could certainly create for himself. Until everyone we played realized that there was no need to worry about a ball screen, a pick and roll, Harrison moving without the ball and receiving for a catch and shoot, or any other basketball play other than a one on one. Thus that became one on two or three and Harrison's offense became mostly driving and getting fouled.

You aren't wrong that Marco waits too long on the release but most spot shooters are used to going to a position and getting the ball in rhythm as opposed to getting it chucked to them randomly when everything else breaks down.

So if there isn't a come to Jesus moment for our offensive strategy (put the emphasis there wherever you want) then poor Max is likely to be misused and frustrated even if it turns out he is a deadeye marksman.

Hope I am wrong but I can only go by what I have seen and that's basically streetball
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You paint a very bleak picture of the future. I am hoping coach Lavin has an epiphany over the summer and realizes our guys have not been prepared well for games but as much as our staff was played up (with coach Dunlap) initially, our current assistants leave me underwhelmed. None look like head coaching material and they will never be confused with the long list of Thad Matta assistants now coaching at elite programs.
Harrison was able to create his own shot but most times it was a "bad" shot. Our entire back court is an enigma and no program will find success with 6 question marks at the guard positions.
It remains to be seen if our coaches can teach these guys basic BB fundamentals and team work next year.
 
Max is 6'7 and that makes it much harder to close out on him. Whoever is on him won't be able to help at all and that will open things up tremendously. If he can shoot off a curl, that makes him much, much more dangerous. 500/584 is absurd. The overwhelming majority of players in D-1 can't do that from the FT line. It is the definition of automatic.
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I like hearing that he's an extra hard worker. And this sounds great in theory and I am very much looking forward to seeing him play for us, but how do you answer the critics that say that there are a lot of great shooters that aren't D1 caliber players and that in Hooper's case, he wasn't a factor at Harvard so how will he ever be a Big East level player? Not knocking him just repeating arguments I've heard. And has he actually grown to a legit 6'7" ?
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Wow!!

@moe_harkless:http://t.co/zil8RVgk1I This guy @maxthehooper made 108 (college) 3's in 5 mins trying to break a record lol..Best shooter in college? #stjbb
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Best stand-still, unguarded shooter? Undoubtedly up there. But we need to get this guy open if his foot speed isn't up to snuff and design some plays for him. And that is on the coaches and other guys implementing what they hopefully learn.
 
Let's just hope he can do it in a game
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I know a dozen guys from the schoolyards that could do the same. And that's with no net, the wind blowing, and with their winter coats on. There was a youtube video last year of Nuri in a shooting drill. Never missed. Have not seen Hooper play, so I can't say how he does with a hand in his face, under pressure, after having to play D, knowing that the coach will pull him if he misses one or two. However, he should be the favorite in the Midnight Madness 3 point contest.
 
Let's just hope he can do it in a game
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I know a dozen guys from the schoolyards that could do the same. And that's with no net, the wind blowing, and with their winter coats on. There was a youtube video last year of Nuri in a shooting drill. Never missed. Have not seen Hooper play, so I can't say how he does with a hand in his face, under pressure, after having to play D, knowing that the coach will pull him if he misses one or two. However, he should be the favorite in the Midnight Madness 3 point contest.
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Sure! Unfortunate that they are 35 years old, are overweight, can't run and jump and need 5 hours to do what Max did in 5 minutes! LOL!!
The biggest challenge will be to have a guard on the floor that will dish him the ball at the right time and place. That guard will not be Phil Greene IV.
 
Let's just hope he can do it in a game
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I know a dozen guys from the schoolyards that could do the same. And that's with no net, the wind blowing, and with their winter coats on. There was a youtube video last year of Nuri in a shooting drill. Never missed. Have not seen Hooper play, so I can't say how he does with a hand in his face, under pressure, after having to play D, knowing that the coach will pull him if he misses one or two. However, he should be the favorite in the Midnight Madness 3 point contest.
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Sure! Unfortunate that they are 35 years old, are overweight, can't run and jump and need 5 hours to do what Max did in 5 minutes! LOL!!
The biggest challenge will be to have a guard on the floor that will dish him the ball at the right time and place. That guard will not be Phil Greene IV.
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I wonder if Hooper's friendship with Sampson will benefit him on the court. You would think Sampson gets a lot of attention next year, and I wonder if he will pass up a few tough double teams to an open Hooper.
 
Good stroke. We won't really know what he's about until he plays games though. I'd like to see the same results with him either under duress, on the move for a catch and shoot, using screens and picks to get a shot. I want to see some JJ Redick type qualities. But he seems off to a decent start
 
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