Matt A

Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

Yup. We also don't play to take advantage of that. G'town is the prime example where we should play this advantage. We should be all over the place with the ball, working their defense to exhaustion. Instead they are just sitting back barely moving which nullifies any potential advantage that we have with either speed or conditioning.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

So who would you suggest get Ponds and/or LoVett's minutes while Mullin is controlling PT? Frankly, you are the type of fan I was referring to, a coach can do some things but at the end of the day, if a coach has to motivate a player at this level you are in trouble. Which is why IMO we have underachieved this year, not record wise necessarily. While there are things I disagree that Mullin is doing, and the offense is one of them, I will wait until he has a fair amount of time to bring in his players to share a final opinion, as it were. And by his players I don't mean players he had to recruit to field a team but players he had a fair amount of time to evaluate and recruit.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

So who would you suggest get Ponds and/or LoVett's minutes while Mullin is controlling PT? Frankly, you are the type of fan I was referring to, a coach can do some things but at the end of the day, if a coach has to motivate a player at this level you are in trouble. Which is why IMO we have underachieved this year, not record wise necessarily. While there are things I disagree that Mullin is doing, and the offense is one of them, I will wait until he has a fair amount of time to bring in his players to share a final opinion, as it were. And by his players I don't mean players he had to recruit to field a team but players he had a fair amount of time to evaluate and recruit.

No inside information other than stuff that has already been said on these boards but if I had to bet I would say you won't have to worry about Lovett next year.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

So who would you suggest get Ponds and/or LoVett's minutes while Mullin is controlling PT? Frankly, you are the type of fan I was referring to, a coach can do some things but at the end of the day, if a coach has to motivate a player at this level you are in trouble. Which is why IMO we have underachieved this year, not record wise necessarily. While there are things I disagree that Mullin is doing, and the offense is one of them, I will wait until he has a fair amount of time to bring in his players to share a final opinion, as it were. And by his players I don't mean players he had to recruit to field a team but players he had a fair amount of time to evaluate and recruit.

No inside information other than stuff that has already been said on these boards but if I had to bet I would say you won't have to worry about Lovett next year.

I just posted on the "LoVett and Ponds" thread. While I'm not saying that I want LoVett to leave, if he does leave we may find that we have a more cohesive team next year. Especially if Simon turns out to be the floor general that we are so badly lacking.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

So who would you suggest get Ponds and/or LoVett's minutes while Mullin is controlling PT? Frankly, you are the type of fan I was referring to, a coach can do some things but at the end of the day, if a coach has to motivate a player at this level you are in trouble. Which is why IMO we have underachieved this year, not record wise necessarily. While there are things I disagree that Mullin is doing, and the offense is one of them, I will wait until he has a fair amount of time to bring in his players to share a final opinion, as it were. And by his players I don't mean players he had to recruit to field a team but players he had a fair amount of time to evaluate and recruit.

No inside information other than stuff that has already been said on these boards but if I had to bet I would say you won't have to worry about Lovett next year.

I just posted on the "LoVett and Ponds" thread. While I'm not saying that I want LoVett to leave, if he does leave we may find that we have a more cohesive team next year. Especially if Simon turns out to be the floor general that we are so badly lacking.

We will not be a better team next year without Lovett. Any suggestion to the contrary is just silly.
 
We will not be a better team next year without Lovett. Any suggestion to the contrary is just silly.

Assuming that Mr. Simon is as advertised then Mr. Lovett may be a valuable player coming off of the bench next season.
 
Coaching / teaching defense is one thing but as a team I believe it exists at the level of philosophy so in that regard it comes from the head coach and has to be pervasive through everything that you do. It has to be at the core of your identity as a team starting at the top and resounded by your staff and players. You don't just fix it with more / different drills. I'd say every game this season we lost out on the 50/50 battle with maybe 2 or 3 games where we had a decent effort for most of the game. Owens was probably the only guy that shined in consistent hustle.

Rebounds, defense, 50/50 all point to an issue with motivation/hustle. The way we showed up for Providence epitomized the symptoms. Part of this is youth. Mental / physical maturity between an 18 yo vs guys 2-5 years older can be dramatic.

Agree. Defense minded teams reflect the coach. It will also require better teamwork and working together on the court. There was very little success with our D this season with the exception of the times full court pressure was used. But once past halfcourt, there was little carryover.
Our guys need to learn how to prevent multiple shots on a possession by learning how to box out and get good position. Too often out of position on D.

And we are out of position too often because by and large our guards get beat consistently and our defense is always scrambling. Certainly coaching is part of the equation but I think the idea of a coach motivating players is much more difficult than many realize. It is difficult to teach heart, kind of like creating a leader out of someone with no innate leadership skill. You can mold, harness, direct desire but if it not there it is hard to create, especially in players who have played a thousand games by the time they get to college.

I am a Mullin guy but if a coach recruits kids then coaches them and there is a lack of effort the coach is the guy that takes the blame. For bringing them in and then not getting through to them. I blame the roster configuration more than anything but you can't absolve Mullin from everything.

Not absolving Mullin from anything, I have been very open about criticism of the team falls on both coaches and players. Was merely commenting on this idea that coaches can motivate players, I don't believe that is generally the case, I think the ability for coaches to get "through to them" is very much the exception, not the rule. Not that it never happens but it is not as common or as easy as many fans believe. Generally speaking, I think coaching is vastly overrated but I agree with you wholeheartedly recruiting the right players is key. And to expand, I don't mean coaching isn't important, it is, but getting the right players is way more of a factor than a coaches influence. Million of examples of how much better coaches are when they upgrade talent, from John Wooden to Coach K.

Coach should instruct and motivate by controlling a player's PT. Team also needs an identity. We were going to be the best conditioned team in the BE. Not thrilled with playing wide open offense.

So who would you suggest get Ponds and/or LoVett's minutes while Mullin is controlling PT? Frankly, you are the type of fan I was referring to, a coach can do some things but at the end of the day, if a coach has to motivate a player at this level you are in trouble. Which is why IMO we have underachieved this year, not record wise necessarily. While there are things I disagree that Mullin is doing, and the offense is one of them, I will wait until he has a fair amount of time to bring in his players to share a final opinion, as it were. And by his players I don't mean players he had to recruit to field a team but players he had a fair amount of time to evaluate and recruit.

No inside information other than stuff that has already been said on these boards but if I had to bet I would say you won't have to worry about Lovett next year.

I just posted on the "LoVett and Ponds" thread. While I'm not saying that I want LoVett to leave, if he does leave we may find that we have a more cohesive team next year. Especially if Simon turns out to be the floor general that we are so badly lacking.

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We will not be a better team next year without Lovett. Any suggestion to the contrary is just silly.

Assuming that Mr. Simon is as advertised then Mr. Lovett may be a valuable player coming off of the bench next season.

Who is advertising Simon as being a pg let alone worthy of Lovett sitting on the bench next year? As somebody posted earlier, Lovett and Ponds presently have nobody to pass the ball to. I think we would all find that Lovett would be a much better floor general if he had a few decent players surrounding him instead of Yakwe and Alibegovic. We should all thank our lucky stars that we had Ponds and Lovett this year because without them, there is no chance we would have won seven Big East games .
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Sentence 2, 3, and 4 doesn't really jive to well with your last sentence.
 
Ponds is an incredibly talented defender, just happens to be a lazy one and on a team that doesn't have depth and needs him to win he could get away with it. I pedicted before the year that he would break our freshmen steals record and I'm guessing he did. I predict he'll win a BE DPOY before his time is done.
 
If Lovett doesn't return then I don't see how we improve. Forget our big man problem, our Ellison problem doesn't go away.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Not that I think he's leaving or not but Lovett is the quintessential Euro player and not likely to ever play in the NBA so I don't know whey he'd play for the crap salaries in the D League. Quick combo guard. He's lacking in the height department even for Europe but besides that has the skills of the kinds of STJ players who are currently thriving over there like PGIII, Dlo, Hatten, Omar, Hardy. They're all doing very well in competitive leagues.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Not that I think he's leaving or not but Lovett is the quintessential Euro player and not likely to ever play in the NBA so I don't know whey he'd play for the crap salaries in the D League. Quick combo guard. He's lacking in the height department even for Europe but besides that has the skills of the kinds of STJ players who are currently thriving over there like PGIII, Dlo, Hatten, Omar, Hardy. They're all doing very well in competitive leagues.

Totally agree. But if the kid wants to play NBA, you can get buried over in Europe. I love the kid hope he stays.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Sentence 2, 3, and 4 doesn't really jive to well with your last sentence.

Just saying he could use a couple of years of development. Love his talent. Speed, handle, can finish with both hands and he's a Great athlete. Maybe I'm convincing myself he's gonna stay.
 
Some kids are just not cut out for college and can't wait to leave and earn some $$.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Not that I think he's leaving or not but Lovett is the quintessential Euro player and not likely to ever play in the NBA so I don't know whey he'd play for the crap salaries in the D League. Quick combo guard. He's lacking in the height department even for Europe but besides that has the skills of the kinds of STJ players who are currently thriving over there like PGIII, Dlo, Hatten, Omar, Hardy. They're all doing very well in competitive leagues.

Totally agree. But if the kid wants to play NBA, you can get buried over in Europe. I love the kid hope he stays.

You can also make a 6 figures career. Average salaries for first division players in top leagues are $20K per month plus accommodation and living expenses. If I was young and talented and single with little prospects in the NBA I'd be begging to get buried. Of course China is paying well as well. DJ is averaging 23 and 10 over there.
 
Why do people think Lovett is leaving. He is barely 6 foot with not particularly good range. He doesn't really distribute that well. He is below average defender. Maybe playing with better talent will change that. Plus the NBA draft is loaded. Europe I would think or DLeague. I assume most people are going with the fact that he moved around a lot in HS and isn't the academic type. I mean he is blazing fast & strong maybe with more space in the NBA suits his skills more. I hope he stays I guess we will find out shortly.

Sentence 2, 3, and 4 doesn't really jive to well with your last sentence.

I agree. I think some posters are trying to soften the potential blow of him leaving by minimizing his impact. It's the old "addition by subtraction' adage. I for one think Lovett has been a phenomenal freshman on an otherwise underwhelming team. Does he have a lot to improve on? Absolutely. Thank goodness he does so we can at least entertain the possibility of him coming back.
 
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