Is there any evidence that Matt A-B-D-E-L-M-A-S-S-I-H is unhappy or frustrated? All I know is his Twitter and on there he's enthusiastic enough to make me gag. I know that there are rumors about a lack of enthusiasm about recruiting among certain members of the staff and maybe they're true, but I also know that head coaches have lots of responsibilities during the season that eat into their let's go to the Christ the King game time. Is it possible that as a former GM Mullin has delegated recruiting responsibilities to his head recruiter and his head recruiter is happy to be out head recruiting and all is right with the world?
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Is there any evidence that Matt A-B-D-E-L-M-A-S-S-I-H is unhappy or frustrated? All I know is his Twitter and on there he's enthusiastic enough to make me gag. I know that there are rumors about a lack of enthusiasm about recruiting among certain members of the staff and maybe they're true, but I also know that head coaches have lots of responsibilities during the season that eat into their let's go to the Christ the King game time. Is it possible that as a former GM Mullin has delegated recruiting responsibilities to his head recruiter and his head recruiter is happy to be out head recruiting and all is right with the world?
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I usually don't comment on recruiting as worrying where a High School kid goes is not worth my time and other than occasionally checking out the ESPN top 100 do not know much about any recruits not named Ball. I am also a Chris Mullin guy no matter what. But to be fair Lavin and Jarvis were both killed for not being "seen" recruiting at the end. So as far is this goes Mullin should be fair game as well.
Yes Mullin is fair game but that's not the question. Jarhead told NYC recruits he wasn't giving them scholarships because they were not hungry enough and then went to the track and gave Abe Keita a scholarship. Lavin didn't personally recruit anyone outside the Italian Riviera and his recruiter was either filming himself raw dogging Kim Kardashian wannabes or trading transcripts in the parking lot. There is as far as I can tell no evidence that Mullin and company have been negligent in their recruiting efforts.If there is I'd love to see it. If there isn't then there are just full diapers.
No evidence at all that I am aware of and definitely possible everything is good here (hope that's the case). Unfortunately may also be possible that it's not. Have no idea but if that's the case would be concerning.
Either way what is probably more concerning is what appears to be a slowdown in recruiting results when we only have 4 guys currently eligible that appear to clearly be able to play at a high D1 level consistently. Even if we have 1-2 more that possibly can and have 2 more on the way next year, we still have plenty of room to add more talent. Agree with you Mullin should delegate and Matt should be the lead but you still need more than one guy out there regularly.
The fate of this team next year depends squarely on Ahmed, Owens and Yakwe improving. And that is not a recruiting issue, it is a coaching issue. All three of those guys have sufficient raw talent and will have enough experience by next year that with proper coaching they should be able to move us ahead.
Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.
(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)
Matt A's recruiting efforts are obviously crucial too, but we have enough talent right now to make considerable improvement next season and beyond IMO.
(Am assuming Ponds and Lovett both stay and continue their stellar progress.)
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Not even sure where all this started anyway. Have been busy at work so haven't read up on all the threads. I do think Paultz has some kind of in with Matt A though. And even if he doesn't, when all that Slice is unhappy stuff started coming out some pooh poohed it and it turned out to be true.
Again I don't really follow HS basketball so I won't go all the sky is falling if he left, but the one worry we all had about Mullin or really any new College coach especially a new coach who was in the Basketball Hall of Fame is how well they will be able to kiss HS kids and their handlers asses. So hopefully there is nothing here.
Fair enough but we're one year into five year plan. There are five players on the roster I'd keep in a keeper draft: the two freshmen guards, Ahmed, Yakwe and Owens and maybe Williams depending on his eligibility and pending a medical exam. To the extent that they're not filling the remaining roster spaces willy nilly I approve.
Agree completely - it's still early in this rebuild and it's probably premature to draw any recruiting conclusions near term or big picture. And that's the same 5-6 players I was thinking of as well. Even with Simon/Clark still have needs to fill so recruiting has to be a priority especially from a resourcing standpoint. Guess we'll know more this spring/summer.
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Just arrived at Christ the King for the Molloy-Holy Cross & Loughlin-CTK.
St. John's assistant Mitch Richmond here 20 minutes early. #sjubb
Marley Paul @MarleyPaul22
Chris Mullin settles in & St. John's is 3-deep watching five-stars Moses Brown and Cole Anthony + top-40 Khalid Moore. #sjubb
Chris, Mitch & St. Jean
I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.
And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:
Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.
We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much.
Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.
I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.
And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:
Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.
We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much.
Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.
Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.
I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.
And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:
Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.
We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much.
Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.
Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.
He's already here. Simon and Clark are key players next season. If Simon has improved his shooting he could be our best player on the court next year.
It would be interesting to know how Clark and Simon are doing in practice.
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I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.
And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:
Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.
We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much.
Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.
Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.
Clark will be our best frontcourt player next year!
I think Simon coming in and playing even vaguley like the the #30 recruit in the class of 2015 would go further than whatever improvement I could imagine from Ahmed and Owens, Yakwe I agree with but then again if he loses minutes to Clark that point's moot too.
And to the main point being discussed here's Paultz's first post on the subject that got everyone's panties into a twist:
Just thinking out loud, Matt A is close with Will Wade and other coaches who could be up for high major jobs this coming spring. I assume Chris and SJU Administration will make sure to keep him here. He is the only AC with recruiting relationships and transfer prowess. Hopefully someone else on staff will be out there soon to give him a hand. One guy can't do it all IMO.
We would be in some serious trouble if he moved on, considering he has already recruited the entire team and has the short term future of the program directly tied to him. Maybe I worry too much.
Like he said it was just him thinking out loud. Matt's got a lead recruiter job at his alma mater and seems to be given free reign to jump on any plane he wants to see any player he wants to recommend while sitting on a bench with two HOFers. That seems like a pretty cushy position. Just make sure he's appropriately remunerated would be my only worry.
Clark is a 3-star forward who averaged less than 10 mins per game at MSU and has not played D1 b'ball in a year. Hope he'll be a contributor, but our frontcourt potential -and hence the fate of the team over the next couple of seasons--rest on the guys who are already here.
Owens was a 3-star center who averaged less than 10 minutes per game at Tennessee and hadn't played D1 ball in a year and look how much he's helping us. On top of that we might only have 2-3 guys currently eligible that would play for MSU at all.
I agree with you the development of guys currently eligible is key, but on paper Clark and Simon project to be two of our best players next year. Case could be made that, since we're not getting on court production from them this year, their addition could have a bigger proportional impact that the collective improvement of everyone on the current active roster.
Transfer game is all relative in my view. You can get a good player anywhere, but transfers from two of the Top 10 year in year out programs in the country don't come around all the time. The delta between "didn't completely work out at Arizona and MSU" and "can have a significant impact at SJU" is a very big one. With expectations still in check and accounting for a potential adjustment period over the first few months of the season, I think both of these players are closer to the level Arizona and MSU typically get (even if not at the higher end) which should be a very good thing for SJU.