Luis status

Shin splints need time to fully heal. And I don’t think RJ and Rick are going to let him sit unless it’s severe

For now he’s likely not going to practice much, ice it, massage it, and take pain killers. But he’ll play.
 
BrooklynRed said:
Sly

you can find the box score in current media guide, page 176. Gus not on team, 5th starter was Bobby Duerr. Walli "Wo Wo" jones not on Nova that year. Great year (except for Joe leaving after it) as we won Holiday Festival beating #1 Michigan and then winning NIT
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Thanks , you did great research , if I can’t remember what I had for dinner last Tuesday , it’s remarkable I can even remember 1965 .

So I got 4 out of 5 right on the Redmen and 3 out of 5 right on Nova .
Yes , I was at that game . A Freshman at the time in the old Garden .
They allowed Smoking in the Old Garden , the guy in front of me smoked like a chimney . Finally had to ask him politely to stop . He did too !
Without a argument !
It was a great game , Redmen won 55-51 .

Lapchick coached his last game . Nova Coach was Jack Craft
 
paultzman said:
Available, we’ll see modest minutes today one would assume. Managing his minutes this season seems in the cards
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Thanks paultz. Nova is small so we might be able to get away with sitting Ledlum. Especially if Luis plays well. Plus, u don’t want this injury to linger the whole season. Tough call but Ledlum looks like the kind of guy who can play through pain. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
SLYFOXX1968 said:
Thanks , you did great research , if I can’t remember what I had for dinner last Tuesday , it’s remarkable I can even remember 1965 .

So I got 4 out of 5 right on the Redmen and 3 out of 5 right on Nova .
Yes , I was at that game . A Freshman at the time in the old Garden .
They allowed Smoking in the Old Garden , the guy in front of me smoked like a chimney . Finally had to ask him politely to stop . He did too !
Without a argument !
It was a great game , Redmen won 55-51 .

Lapchick coached his last game . Nova Coach was Jack Craft
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I was there too-thanks to 50 cents High School GO card to see Coach Joe's last
 
Staff and fans see the skill set and professional potential RJ possesses. Being out so long, it was natural for him to rush things a bit. He has already positively impacted some games and shown his athletic ability.

You don’t want to stifle his creativity, but I am confident Rick can help him find that consistent, happy medium sweet spot in his game to really maximize his presence. I believe he has enough post injury time under his belt that we will begin to see that happen. Pitino has a history of getting kids w enormous talent to embrace the notion of blending natural ability while playing “smart”
 
RJ has made quite a few spectacular plays on both ends of the floor. Our best athlete by a lot. But a lot of these plays are the result of being out of control and too rushed. His great athleticism is bailing him out. With his ability, he has to learn to play more under control, make scoring look easy, and include his teammates more. He has the long and lean look of George Gervin. And the high arcing shot. If RJ can make scoring look as easy as the Iceman did, then the NBA will be in his future.
 
Ray Morgan said:
RJ has made quite a few spectacular plays on both ends of the floor. Our best athlete by a lot. But a lot of these plays are the result of being out of control and too rushed. His great athleticism is bailing him out. With his ability, he has to learn to play more under control, make scoring look easy, and include his teammates more. He has the long and lean look of George Gervin. And the high arcing shot. If RJ can make scoring look as easy as the Iceman did, then the NBA will be in his future.
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Not to split hairs, but I don’t know if it’s so much his athleticism as it his his height and length. Dual, by comparison, is an athletic freak (and extremely long).

I’m willing to live and die with him on the final possession the rest of the way.
 
Marillac2 said:
Not to split hairs, but I don’t know if it’s so much his athleticism as it his his height and length. Dual, by comparison, is an athletic freak (and extremely long).

I’m willing to live and die with him on the final possession the rest of the way.
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He is the closest thing we have to the skill set of a closer. The only thing standing in his way is likely being healthy enough to get full reps in practice.
 
weathermannyc said:
He is the closest thing we have to the skill set of a closer. The only thing standing in his way is likely being healthy enough to get full reps in practice.
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First off, IMO, not sure at all if this is what you mean so I apologize in advance if I am reading your post wrong but I think the idea of a Jordan like closer is very rare indeed. Good teams need to have multiple players who can make winning plays, not depend on one player.
Having said that, I am not denying Luis talent and his ability to pass certainly makes him a player to potentially play through at the end of games. But I think the needed discipline for better decision making are things he certainly needs before being given the keys to the car. Those may or may not be acquired via full reps in practice but very difficult at this time of the year. That’s why I think Pitino refers to next year frequently when talking about Luis. Besides his health potentially affecting how much he can practice, practices in season are nowhere near the same as those in pre-season; two entirely different animals. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I don’t see that happening this year.
 
logen said:
First off, IMO, not sure at all if this is what you mean so I apologize in advance if I am reading your post wrong but I think the idea of a Jordan like closer is very rare indeed. Good teams need to have multiple players who can make winning plays, not depend on one player.
Having said that, I am not denying Luis talent and his ability to pass certainly makes him a player to potentially play through at the end of games. But I think the needed discipline for better decision making are things he certainly needs before being given the keys to the car. Those may or may not be acquired via full reps in practice but very difficult at this time of the year. That’s why I think Pitino refers to next year frequently when talking about Luis. Besides his health potentially affecting how much he can practice, practices in season are nowhere near the same as those in pre-season; two entirely different animals. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I don’t see that happening this year.
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Pitino refers to next year repeatedly because he wants Luis to stay. That’s literally it. He doesn’t discuss “next year” specifically with any other player…it’s a general future when talking about Wilcher, Brady, or Ejiofor.

6’8 forwards with his length and guard skills don’t grow on trees. Him getting drafted has very little to do with how ready he is to contribute to an NBA team. Anyone who drafts is looking 18 months down road.

In college, Luis has a lot of things to work on. He is more turnover prone than say Jenkins would be in a final play scenario. But he’s elite at drawing hard contact and that opens up a very good possibility of free throws. That is entirely off the table with Jenkins — who you know will get a clean look but will settle for something off balance and leaning or fading away from the basket.
 
If we're in a last shot situation again, and the other team has no fouls to give (that, to me, was the reason why Jenkins having the ball in his hands was the proper move), I would be very curious to see if Pitino goes to Luis. His best attribute is that he can draw a foul going to the basket, but is also a threat in the midrange game.
 
dk423 said:
If we're in a last shot situation again, and the other team has no fouls to give (that, to me, was the reason why Jenkins having the ball in his hands was the proper move), I would be very curious to see if Pitino goes to Luis. His best attribute is that he can draw a foul going to the basket, but is also a threat in the midrange game.
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Hopefully we are not in that situation the rest of the season with Luis taking on a bigger role. That means something has gone wrong.

There is no way we shouldn’t be able to draw 6 fouls with Soriano, Taylor, Dingle, Ledlum, and Luis.
 
Jenkins got himself and hit the same shot to win the Hofstra game. Considering they could foul I was impressed with what he did. He got a good shot and it left both Joel and Ledlum with putbacj opportunities just beyond them. And then still left a tough but makeable shot for Dingle that would have counted.
 
logen said:
First off, IMO, not sure at all if this is what you mean so I apologize in advance if I am reading your post wrong but I think the idea of a Jordan like closer is very rare indeed. Good teams need to have multiple players who can make winning plays, not depend on one player.
Having said that, I am not denying Luis talent and his ability to pass certainly makes him a player to potentially play through at the end of games. But I think the needed discipline for better decision making are things he certainly needs before being given the keys to the car. Those may or may not be acquired via full reps in practice but very difficult at this time of the year. That’s why I think Pitino refers to next year frequently when talking about Luis. Besides his health potentially affecting how much he can practice, practices in season are nowhere near the same as those in pre-season; two entirely different animals. I sincerely hope I am wrong but I don’t see that happening this year.
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I'm not comparing him to Jordan. That would be insane. What I meant is that he is the guy who i want to have the ball at the top of the key in a tie game with 5 seconds to go. He can get to the rim, draw a foul, pull up for a jumper and draw help defenders to create an open look for someone else. That is what I meant by skill set of a closer. Does that mean that he is one? No. Just that he has the requisite skills to become one.

For reference...Boo Harvey was a closer, Hatten was a closer, Hardy was a closer. Ponds was a closer.
 
weathermannyc said:
I'm not comparing him to Jordan. That would be insane. What I meant is that he is the guy who i want to have the ball at the top of the key in a tie game with 5 seconds to go. He can get to the rim, draw a foul, pull up for a jumper and draw help defenders to create an open look for someone else. That is what I meant by skill set of a closer. Does that mean that he is one? No. Just that he has the requisite skills to become one.

For reference...Boo Harvey was a closer, Hatten was a closer, Hardy was a closer. Ponds was a closer.
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I know you were not comparing him to Jordan, hence “Jordan like”, it seemed obvious to me I was referring to a role, not comparing players,. I also agreed he had the skills but whatever……….
 
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