LIU Brooklyn, Sun. Dec. 11, 12 Noon, FS1/970AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. When your last NCAA Tournament win was in 2000, you cease to be a relevant program.
Regarding CM, I respect the guy. But he is so in over his head, it's actually painful to watch. I think his tenure will be another rough chapter for St. John's.
That is fair, I interpreted embarrassing to be because of the name on the LIU uniform and maybe I was wrong about that. LIU had talent and was well coached so "on any given day." I was way more embarrassed by our lack of respect for the ball than I was losing to LIU.
First game where we really missed Marcus, IMO. #2 for LIU did a great job denying Ponds the ball all day. Even when he was playing
the point, #2 usually forced a pass just over midcourt. Marcus also would have also given us another key ballhandler late in the game. Another key not mentioned were Owens fouling out. When he was not in there, LIU got anything they wanted inside. Also, Fleming for them making that 3 after we went up 4. If one of our guys had taken that shot, he wouldn't have heard the end of it from me, but he made it.
the point, #2 usually forced a pass just over midcourt. Marcus also would have also given us another key ballhandler late in the game. Another key not mentioned were Owens fouling out. When he was not in there, LIU got anything they wanted inside. Also, Fleming for them making that 3 after we went up 4. If one of our guys had taken that shot, he wouldn't have heard the end of it from me, but he made it.
redfan259999888
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yeah, and his 1 or 2boards in 15minutes
Ray Morgan
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Frustrated with putting the ball in Ellison's hands? Without Lovett, what choice does Mullin have? LIU was keying on Ponds, and Mussini isn't a ball handler. Ellison showed he could get to the basket all game. In fairness to Ellison on the stolen bounce pass, Yakwe showed his lack of strength and basketball instincts by not feeling that big LIU bruiser behind him, and not using his body to protect the passing lane. That's not a turnover if the ball was intended for Anthony Glover or many other forwards we have had over the years. Meanwhile, without Ellison, we would not have been in position to win. He was our only inside threat.
redfan259999888
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lol, I have them now at -3
Had them at 2-1 in the Bahamas and go 0-3, lost the Delarare St. game is -3
Got a game back at Tulane which I had as a loss, but blew this game.
Ellison and Ahmed are crapshoots at the foul line
Ahmed : 5 of 9
Ellison: 0 of 3
Rest of team : 13 of 14
and with the way Williams was playing early on, not sure why his minutes were limited to 20.
Ahmed : 5 of 9
Ellison: 0 of 3
Rest of team : 13 of 14
and with the way Williams was playing early on, not sure why his minutes were limited to 20.
redfan259999888
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Williams in 20 minutes: 15pnts, 7boards, 2stls and a blck.
Vs. PSU I'd start Williams over Yakwe. Maybe it will send him a message "you better come to play kids, if you don't then you don't play."
Vs. PSU I'd start Williams over Yakwe. Maybe it will send him a message "you better come to play kids, if you don't then you don't play."
Ray Morgan
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Forget about this Mullin nonsense. The fact the jerseys say St. John's is meaningless. Those days are done. Mullin has a limited talent pool.
First rule of coaching is to get good players, He has only a few of them, and they are all young and/or inexperienced. He has no beef in the front court. Lubin and now Frinks ate our supposed bigs for lunch. As I wrote in a post on the Alibegovic thread, Sima's departure means Owens will get quick fouls and have to sit if required to defend any physically strong inside player. He will face stronger players every game, whether it's a high major or Cal Northridge and LIU. Yakwe and Freud are projects. They gave away 6 points with their bad hands alone.
Mullin isn't a good coach yet, but he knows talent, and has the name to get them to sign here. Everyone wants Mullin to wave a magic wand and bring back the SJU from years past. Isn't happening even if he had Clair Bee's coaching skill set. The team needs better players.
