Kyle Anderson PG (UCLA)

In retrospect, I think part of the reason Kyle went to UCLA was the fact that he already had a ton of NYC, i.e., Northeast exposure. Going to UCLA, which I view as close to an overall equal to SJ's (will not go into my criteria for it now, not the point), will give Kyle more west coast exposure for his career. Of course, this is all pending he does what some expect at the next level. Having a future average NBA career negates any of my speculation. Also, playing in the Pac1.... provides overall lesser competition night in, night out. It's like the ACC lately...a two team race and that's it, save for Washington stepping up a bit after a disappointing 2011.
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Glad I was able to make your morning, purist. LOL

I agree with you, in reference to the Pac-12 being similiar to the ACC. You have a few solid (or, a couple) teams at the top while the middle and bottom are crappy, to say the least.
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 My point being SloMo won't get beat up as much physically, and put up bigger stats for the NBA draft - strategy was there imho
 
I don't know how the timing would have played out. But I don't think it would have mattered. If Anderson was coming here, delaying the announcements on Garrett , Pelle and Sampson wouldn't have impacted Anderson's commitment in any way.
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I agree, FAN2. From what I've gathered, his decision was made several weeks ago.

As, I stated on last night.... I believe our staff caught wind of his decision, hence no in-home from us and no one from our staff to watch him on yesterday. We have to remember Earl Watson, Kris Johnson and Ryan Bailey, along with guys like Baron Davis and Matt Barnes have been around the staff lately. So, I'm sure they are privy to info coming out of the UCLA camp.

The staff probably saw the writing on the wall and didn't want to waste anymore resources in this recruitment.    
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You are 100% right. 
 
Wonder how many trips to the left coast bruins will pay for so KA's family can watch him play. :unsure:  
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Well.... There might not be any trips. I heard his family will relocate to the left coast next season.
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 Is Sam Gilbert's nephew picking up the tab? Of course, that is what I read on the SH board, we don't do sour grapes like that post N :blink: orm
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Maybe, he was saying that to appease to the Hall fans. Maybe, the Hall was officially in second place. Regardless, he didn't choose the Johnnies or SHU. So, in the end it really doesn't matter.
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Maybe, he was saying that to appease to the Hall fans. Maybe, the Hall was officially in second place. Regardless, he didn't choose the Johnnies or SHU. So, in the end it really doesn't matter.
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 Yep, I couldn't care less if it was 100th place.

In the end, Willard is sitting in a deep pile, having just given out a slew of schollies on avg players. He's got to get JT, or Dingle or someone very good for next year, and pray attrition strikes this year's squad to the tune of at least 2 players. W/o that scenario, he will be swimming upstream these next 3-4 years... I feel for him. Kyle truly would have opened the floodgates for him recruiting wise. That would have helped more than Kyle's one year of playing.
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Maybe, he was saying that to appease to the Hall fans. Maybe, the Hall was officially in second place. Regardless, he didn't choose the Johnnies or SHU. So, in the end it really doesn't matter.
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 Yep, I couldn't care less if it was 100th place.

In the end, Willard is sitting in a deep pile, having just given out a slew of schollies on avg players. He's got to get JT, or Dingle or someone very good for next year, and pray attrition strikes this year's squad to the tune of at least 2 players. W/o that scenario, he will be swimming upstream these next 3-4 years... I feel for him. Kyle truly would have opened the floodgates for him recruiting wise. That would have helped more than Kyle's one year of playing.
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One thing people are forgetting....

SHU has two transfers sitting out this season and they become eligible next season.

bball - you are right though, it would have opened up huge recruiting doors for their program.
 
And this is why, I never believe those who claim that they have inside information, or a source who knows where the a recruit is headed. All it does is get hopes up, and then there's the big letdown. Let's hope we finally learned our lesson. 
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there will never be an end to bad information from the so-called experts who man the three most popular redmen sites. i've learned not to believe anything until it happens.
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Um did you two ever think that things change?
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Personally I think choosing between the local schools was overwhelming. He had ties to SHU but STJ was better opportunity. And by choosing one or the other he would have created some major waves and played the other school once if not twice. UCLA was the smart choice then. Very curious to see how the staff reacts to this loss as well as being shorthanded recruiting this fall as we don't know the status of 3 others.
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Maybe, he was saying that to appease to the Hall fans. Maybe, the Hall was officially in second place. Regardless, he didn't choose the Johnnies or SHU. So, in the end it really doesn't matter.
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 Yep, I couldn't care less if it was 100th place.

In the end, Willard is sitting in a deep pile, having just given out a slew of schollies on avg players. He's got to get JT, or Dingle or someone very good for next year, and pray attrition strikes this year's squad to the tune of at least 2 players. W/o that scenario, he will be swimming upstream these next 3-4 years... I feel for him. Kyle truly would have opened the floodgates for him recruiting wise. That would have helped more than Kyle's one year of playing.
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One thing people are forgetting....

SHU has two transfers sitting out this season and they become eligible next season.

bball - you are right though, it would have opened up huge recruiting doors for their program.
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Why would we be forgetting that? Neither is a difference maker in the least bit. They also have Raymon Austin committed for 2012. Did we forget to mention him?
 
A couple of things I will say.

1) I firmly believe that it was UCLA and SJU all along but that he decided on UCLA, like DInkins, said, probably a week or so ago.

2) Norm was not a particular ally of SJU In this recruitment. Not sure it made any difference but he wasn't.

3) The stuff about Kyle not wanting to go away or the stuff about how the HC's needed to be there at EVERY turn for Kyle was also overblown. SHU obviously took it to a new level but Howland was probably the LEAST visible of the 5 coaches. 
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Stay classy Norm.
 
Yeah Norm made it clear that if Kyle were to stay in the area he would be a better fit at SHU not SJU. Apparently Billy also said that if Kyle was interested in leaving the area that would mean UCLA or Florida. He mentioned Florida would be better because his family and friends would rarely see his games on TV because of the 3 hour delay on the West Coast (UCLA).

Back on the SHU angle, again they poured a lot of energy in to this recruitment. Coach Willard did a great job. But if you are going to make sure you are seen at every game (remember all the SHU fans making such a big deal about that. Heck Howland never even came to the final July game at Hoop Group. And Lavin lost his wallet and could not make it). And your fan base is going to arrange basically greeting parties at every destination. I honestly thought they would arrange something at Newark Airport to welcome him back from his Florida visit, not joking. You do all that, in other words you go all in, you better get him. Or it is a real big belly drop if you don't.

The comparison was made with Harkless. Ridiculous. Lavin was going to get good players with or without Harkless. And never was SJU considered the underdog to the point where they needed to basically organize rallies to try to get him to commit.

Matt Norlander made a good point. In the end it probably would have been better if Kyle Anderson lived in Houston, TX. In that case there would have been no pressure to recruit him especially against much tougher competition. Because again the main reason SHU was a player for him was because he lived right down the road from SHU. 
 
 Zags final post mortem on the KA recruitment. Funny his father was the one saying SJU and UCLA were sticking out but because of loyalty he said that if Kyle stayed east he was probably going to SHU. In ther end I just think that was too much to ask:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/20/where-does-seton-hall-go-from-here/
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Maybe, he was saying that to appease to the Hall fans. Maybe, the Hall was officially in second place. Regardless, he didn't choose the Johnnies or SHU. So, in the end it really doesn't matter.
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 Yep, I couldn't care less if it was 100th place.

In the end, Willard is sitting in a deep pile, having just given out a slew of schollies on avg players. He's got to get JT, or Dingle or someone very good for next year, and pray attrition strikes this year's squad to the tune of at least 2 players. W/o that scenario, he will be swimming upstream these next 3-4 years... I feel for him. Kyle truly would have opened the floodgates for him recruiting wise. That would have helped more than Kyle's one year of playing.
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One thing people are forgetting....

SHU has two transfers sitting out this season and they become eligible next season.

bball - you are right though, it would have opened up huge recruiting doors for their program.
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Why would we be forgetting that? Neither is a difference maker in the least bit. They also have Raymon Austin committed for 2012. Did we forget to mention him?
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Because PMG seems to want to make a point on all the St. John's boards to let us know everything about Seton Hall

Don't forget about those 2 transfers guys!
 
SHU was a player for him was because he lived right down the road from SHU.
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Many Seton Hall fans also know that was the reason they were involved in this recruitment for so long. IMO, if Kyle were from the other states of the respective schools involved (yes, I'm even including NYC), then Seton Hall would've never been a player in this recruitment. None!
 
SHU was a player for him was because he lived right down the road from SHU.
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Many Seton Hall fans also know that was the reason they were involved in this recruitment for so long. IMO, if Kyle were from the other states of the respective schools involved (yes, I'm even including NYC), then Seton Hall would've never been a player in this recruitment. None!
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 It was Ben Franklin trying to catch lightning in a bottle, except Willard missed. Although it seems like his hair got scorched by the lightning... :huh:
 
In another not shocking decommitment, Dominic Artis a PG previously committed to UCLA, backed out. Can't help but not think Kyle verbal came into play.
 
In another not shocking decommitment, Dominic Artis a PG previously committed to UCLA, backed out. Can't help but not think Kyle verbal came into play.
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Any chance we get involved Moose?
 
In another not shocking decommitment, Dominic Artis a PG previously committed to UCLA, backed out. Can't help but not think Kyle verbal came into play.
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Any chance we get involved Moose?
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A lot of things going into the decision. Kid transferred this year to Findlay Prep - and has apparently been beaten out for the PG spot by some kid from Italy (who looks like he'll end up at Arizona).

And don't forget even before Kyle verballed, Artis was already 2nd string as a frosh - former McD AA PG Larry Drew will be playing his senior year at UCLA next season.

So several factors - Ben Howland has now acknowleged he'll be giving Kyle a shot at the PG spot (as well as other positions - early in the recruting process that wasn't going to be an option), Larry Drew is in for his senior year. Kyle has tweeted a couple of 2013 prospects about playing with THEM - indicating he's thinking MORE than one and done. And UCLA is a wide leader for the west coasts top 2013 PG Zach Lavine (being referred to as the 2nd coming of Steph Curry). Artis may already feel recruited over....

Artis still says UCLA is his favorite, so who knows. If Lav's wasn't heading to the hospital tho, that would be a call worth making. Despite it all, Artis IS the real deal - a chance to be a better ballhandling Nate Robinson...(Bruin fans keep saying another Tyus Edney, but Artis is going to be much physically stronger than Edney)...And I REALLY think SJU needs a PG in the 2012 claass....
 
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