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[MCNPA]

Boo, I added "at this point" to clarify that I'm comparing stats "at this point".  I made no claims about who would be the better 4-year Pg, so I did that to clarify.  I thought it was clear in my original post though.  I still maintain that I think we did comparably good with the Pg we landed.  I can't say what the next few years holds just yet.

 

[matt105]

It seems to me that we are really developing a style of our own . Posh is a junk yard dog , we look like we are playing an NYC schoolyard , in your face style of ball. So many teams have become 3 point oriented  without any team personality, I really like what Im seeing .

 

[Alex9045]

I expect Pinzon and Traore to contribute next season on a similar level to Wusu, and possibly Posh. If that's the case, there is no reason to question CMA's recruiting anymore of the local area. It'll be clear that the staff can evaluate talent regardless of rankings. 

 

[JohnnyFan]

Comparing Curbelo and Posh is a flawed analysis.  Two different types of PGs playing for programs that are in two differerent places.  Both kids are great prospects and will unbdoubtedly have strong D-I careers.  

I love Posh, but I think we would be in no lesser shape with Curbelo.  He, too, is a special player.  I expect him to blossom at Illinois just as Posh will continue to excel and grow here.  

 

[NCJohnnie]

I expect the early signing of Posh (& to a lesser extent Wusu) was a classic case of a bird in the hand and will wind up being a good move in the long run as we likely couldn't have signed Curbelo and I am not at all convinced he will be any better than Posh.  

 

[QueensBall]

I think Curbelo is very good, will be an excellent player for Illinois and yes is different from Alexander. In my earlier post I wasn't intending to compare them apples to apples as players but trying to articulate that when I look at Curbelo and I look at Posh I'm not wishing things had turned out differently. They've each played half a season and I certainly may feel very different a month, year or 3 years from now. At this point though when I look at production, temperament, fit, etc. I'm really happy with the guy Anderson got and there isn't a noticable early talent gap between Posh and those guys who ended up with the bigger offers and all the recruiting heat. Any team would be extremely fortunate to get a player like Andre Curbelo and I'm sure Underwood and Illinois fans are equally if not more pleased with the way things went.

 

[L J S A]

Regarding Curbelo and Posh, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them have very similar numbers when all is said and done. The biggest difference to me is that Curbelo has a much better chance of winning a national championship.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Regarding Curbelo and Posh, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them have very similar numbers when all is said and done. The biggest difference to me is that Curbelo has a much better chance of winning a national championship.

Yea but Posh has a way better chance to win a BE title, and that’s the one I really want.

 

[L J S A]

Regarding Curbelo and Posh, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them have very similar numbers when all is said and done. The biggest difference to me is that Curbelo has a much better chance of winning a national championship.

Yea but Posh has a way better chance to win a BE title, and that’s the one I really want.

I don't know if this is still the school of thought, but this post reminds me of the kids who thought the city championship was way more important than the state fed championship.

 

[MainMan]

We've flagged outside shooting as a weakness for Posh.
But Curbelo is shooting 0.167 from three.
 

 

[MCNPA]

We've flagged outside shooting as a weakness for Posh.
But Curbelo is shooting 0.167 from three.

Curbelo also shooting 55% from the line. It's gotta be what is limiting his minutes.  Posh shooting something like 46% from 3 over last 2 games.  He's certainly capable of it.

 

[beast of the east]

Posh is so much better than the criticisms, but I would also temper the praise.

I don't think we've had a point guard this strong since Boothe, and Posh of course is much more skilled.   He has made some very sound decisions on when to take it to the hole, has a shot that can improve, a pretty good handle, and moves the ball on offense.    None of that has been superlative and he can improve in every facet..

What is incredible is his non stop motor.   When he goes after the ball from behind after an inbounds or defense rebound, he has a good sense on when to give up and usually zips up court to be in position on defense.   His on ball defense is relentless, and when he doesn't get beat off the dribble just hounds the ball non stop.    He personifies CMA's 40 minutes of hell defense.  

Right now, he is a good player and an asset.   With a willingness to improve, he can become a top notch player.  He is far from that now, but just watching his effort on defense makes him compelling to watch.

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

I said this before but , if there was fantasy to see , I would love to have seen what kind of Hockey Player Posh would be . I think he would be all over the Ice , stealing the Puck , going into the corners , harassing opponents unmercifully , setting up teammates and scoring goals . The problem would be trying to get him off the ice after a 45 second shift . They would probably have to pull him off . He's just relentless .  Plus , he's got that Brooklyn PG swagger . Nearly every Announcer that does our Games raves about him . It's great to see . 

 

[lawmanfan]

I don't think we've had a point guard this strong since Boothe, and Posh of course is much more skilled. 
 

I hate to get off topic, but saying that someone is "the best since Malik Boothe" is not exactly a compliment.  Malik Booth was 5'9" and his career averages were 4.5 points 3 assists, and 2 turnovers per game.  He was probably the least capable St John's point guard ... maybe ever.

At the progam's absolute nadir, Eugene Lawrence was the point guard.  He averaged 8 points, 4.5 assists and 3 turnovers per game.
 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I don't think we've had a point guard this strong since Boothe, and Posh of course is much more skilled. 

 

I hate to get off topic, but saying that someone is "the best since Malik Boothe" is not exactly a compliment.  Malik Booth was 5'9" and his career averages were 4.5 points 3 assists, and 2 turnovers per game.  He was probably the least capable St John's point guard ... maybe ever.

At the progam's absolute nadir, Eugene Lawrence was the point guard.  He averaged 8 points, 4.5 assists and 3 turnovers per game.

 

I think he was being literal as in strongest point guard physically.

 

[SJU85]

I don't think we've had a point guard this strong since Boothe, and Posh of course is much more skilled. 


 

I hate to get off topic, but saying that someone is "the best since Malik Boothe" is not exactly a compliment.  Malik Booth was 5'9" and his career averages were 4.5 points 3 assists, and 2 turnovers per game.  He was probably the least capable St John's point guard ... maybe ever.

At the progam's absolute nadir, Eugene Lawrence was the point guard.  He averaged 8 points, 4.5 assists and 3 turnovers per game.


 

I think he was being literal as in strongest point guard physically.

I do believe you are correct.
 

 

[RedmanMike]

I actually think Posh will be the best pure PG we've had since Barkley.  We've had some excellent guards since then, but they have all been combo guards rather than true PGs - Hatten, Hill, Hardy, Harrison, Ponds.  Maybe I'm missing someone?

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

Agree Redmen Mike  Erick Barkley was the best PG over the last 25 years . Before that Mark Jackson .  They were pure PG not Combo Guards as you mentioned . Omar Cook had potential but , playing 1 year doesn't qualify . I still think Scoonie Penn fouled Erick on that last possession vs Ohio State . Which denied us a Final 4 . Posh has time to write his own story 

 

[lawmanfan]

I think he was being literal as in strongest point guard physically.
 

Thanks.  That would make sense.  It probably didn't occur to me because I don't generally think of physical strength as a major item for a point guard.  But I'm sure you're correct, there isn't any other viable explanation.

 

[bamafan]

I think he was being literal as in strongest point guard physically.

 

Thanks.  That would make sense.  It probably didn't occur to me because I don't generally think of physical strength as a major item for a point guard.  But I'm sure you're correct, there isn't any other viable explanation.


It's actually what he wrote.  As strong as Boothe but much more skilled.