Khadeen Carrington (Seton Hall verbal)

1. If you can't even play at Harvard, how good can you possibly be? Why would Harvard keep him on the bench if he's so good? It's a genuinely logical reservation to have. From what I hear he is an insanely good shooter, but it makes me wonder why he couldn't even start at a much worse basketball school than us.

2. So you can scout players better than Rivals? If so, then great! You can be our insider. Using your logic, nothing on Rivals is to be attributed to a prospect meaning good players and bad players are not distinguishable.

3. High school caliber is the same as McDermott doing what he's doing at Duke instead of Creighton. It means more if you excel against the best, not just the mediocre or weak.

4. Bourgault has shown flashes, but really cooled down and hasn't given reason yet to believe he is truly a consistent 3 pt guy. He still has barely played for us. Him and Hooper are not multi-tool scorers. Severe is. Would you rather guys who can score 3 different ways, or 1 different way? Not hard to pick that one.

Just seems like Severe has more tools.
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Did you know his situation at Harvard? Elaborate, if you know the situation. I think he had stopped playing before the Christmas holidays, if I'm correct.

Once again, what does what Rivals say has to do with Severe being a known player, and Bourgault and Hooper being unknowns? By the way, I never said Rivals was wrong with Severe, but it's possible it could be some exaggeration. He could very, well be an "outstanding" shooter, but I've been around long enough to know that isn't always the case with kids coming in from high school to college. Not to mention, I've been told that Severe tends to be a "chucker." I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, as I've yet to see him play. I'll also say that I'm confident in my assertion of talent when I get a chance to see a player in action.

If you knew anything about talent translation, then you'd know a kid like McDermott could do the same thing at Duke or any, other high, major program that he's currently doing at Creighton. But you don't know that, so why bother.

Bourgault and Hooper doesn't have to be multi-level scorers to have an effect on a game. Have you ever seen Severe play or just rambling like you usually do? Whether, Severe has been able to score from all levels in high school doesn't necessarily means it's gonna translate to the collegiate game. He could do so; it could take time; or it may never transpire. If he were to come to St. John's, then I'll root for him like any, other player that has donned a Johnnies jersey since I've been a fan. But your argument is weak, per usual.

The discussion was about you trying to denigrate the games of Bourgault and Hooper in an attempt to build up Severe. That isn't a way to present an argument, as it'll be shot down every, single time.
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All I can tell you is we will see. Regardless of people's opinion's of me and whether they want to admit this or not, I have been right many times before about my predictions while others were calling me an idiot. I think he would be a better contributor offensively than Hooper or Marco. But hey, if Marco and Hooper somehow turn into JJ Reddick I will be a happy customer.
 
All I can tell you is we will see. Regardless of people's opinion's of me and whether they want to admit this or not, I have been right many times before about my predictions while others were calling me an idiot. I think he would be a better contributor offensively than Hooper or Marco. But hey, if Marco and Hooper somehow turn into JJ Reddick I will be a happy customer.
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You're a funny customer.

By the way, I see you're already building another strawman to argue against it later (But hey, if Marco and Hooper somehow turn into JJ Reddick I will be a happy customer).
 
“@AdamZagoria: West Va. asst Larry Harrison will watch 2013 G Jon Severe and 2014 G Khadeen Carrington on Wednesday. WVU has offered both NYC players”u
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If we don't get Severe we are in trouble. Zero sharpshooters on this team.
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Max Hooper, Marco, Harrison
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Hooper = unknown
Marco = unknown and cold lately
Harrison = 31% from 3 40% total FG

I would define a sharpshooter as a 40% 3pt/45% FG type of player who can make the mid range shots as well as deep 3's. No players we have can make those shots consistently.
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Well only 40 players in the NCAA shoot over 40% from 3 so not many players anywhere can hit those shots consistently. As far as Hooper I can tell you for a fact he is a lights out shooter.

Also Rysheed Jordan > Jon Severe
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I know he can shoot lights out in practice. But, let's see how it translates to Big East games. This kid was at Harvard and didn't get enough playing time so I'm not ready to crown him as Curry yet.
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Thought hooper was an Arciadacno clone? no?
 
Joe, you make absolutist statements, and then you are forced to make extreme arguments to try and defend them. Just temper your positions a bit and recognize that there is the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong. It makes for much more reasoned and intelligent argument.
 
Perhaps a good reason why Hooper didnt get run at Harvard is that Harvard already had 5-6 max Hoopers on the team. Where as st johns has 1-2.
 
Perhaps a good reason why Hooper didnt get run at Harvard is that Harvard already had 5-6 max Hoopers on the team. Where as st johns has 1-2.
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So he would be the 7th best player on Harvard among players of a similar skill set? I can see if he went to Harvard, started every game then realized he wanted to move on to bigger and better things, but in CBB if you are a very good player you start as a freshman. Obviously I can be wrong and Hooper turns out to be our best pure shooter since Mullin...who knows? It's just strange that he couldn't crack Harvard's starting lineup, but now he will get solid minutes from a Big East school. Like I said, maybe I'm missing something where he had a strange situation that made him transfer...I don't know but I haven't heard anything.
 
Perhaps a good reason why Hooper didnt get run at Harvard is that Harvard already had 5-6 max Hoopers on the team. Where as st johns has 1-2.
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So he would be the 7th best player on Harvard among players of a similar skill set? I can see if he went to Harvard, started every game then realized he wanted to move on to bigger and better things, but in CBB if you are a very good player you start as a freshman. Obviously I can be wrong and Hooper turns out to be our best pure shooter since Mullin...who knows? It's just strange that he couldn't crack Harvard's starting lineup, but now he will get solid minutes from a Big East school. Like I said, maybe I'm missing something where he had a strange situation that made him transfer...I don't know but I haven't heard anything.
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hahaha...you could argue with a mirror. I'm convinced.
 
Perhaps a good reason why Hooper didnt get run at Harvard is that Harvard already had 5-6 max Hoopers on the team. Where as st johns has 1-2.
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So he would be the 7th best player on Harvard among players of a similar skill set? I can see if he went to Harvard, started every game then realized he wanted to move on to bigger and better things, but in CBB if you are a very good player you start as a freshman. Obviously I can be wrong and Hooper turns out to be our best pure shooter since Mullin...who knows? It's just strange that he couldn't crack Harvard's starting lineup, but now he will get solid minutes from a Big East school. Like I said, maybe I'm missing something where he had a strange situation that made him transfer...I don't know but I haven't heard anything.
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Whats solid minutes? I would be really surprised if he got more than 10 minutes a game and I think most everyone else here would, doesnt mean he cant help us. And some teams, like a Harvard for example who was a top 25 team at some point last season, are comprised of mostly 4 year players. At these programs most freshmen sit and learn and then get their turn later on. No one is calling Hooper the next Mullin. Some are calling him the next Arcidicano tho..
 
Khadeen Carrington hates this thread.
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Me and the other mods hate it more because its a pain in the ass to move 18 posts after it was asked to stay on topic ;)
 
Sometimes the real topic is the process and not the content. Joe3 earning his bones does not mind being the Sith apprentice, but we are still left with the question as to what is the Redmen.com identity of the Sith Lord.
 
Chiles at his game tonight
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Lav?
Rico?
Darrick?

We're allowed 3 on the road?????
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I think Lavin only visits his tier 1 recruits (5 or 4 stars).

Not saying I agree with it but it seems to be a trend with him.
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He saw Carrington a few weeks ago with Tony I thought. I know the swooping in approach can work. But this is our backyard no travel involved. 2 hr game. I'd like more than 1 coach, don't care who really
 
@NYPost_Brazille: I asked Khadeen Carrington about St. John's attending so many of his games. "They're at the top of my list." #stjbb
 
@NYPost_Brazille: I asked Khadeen Carrington about St. John's attending so many of his games. "They're at the top of my list." #stjbb
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Smothering a recruit works.
Go figure..........McCullough
 
Unless a kid flat-out says he doesn't want to be smothered, the staff should smother him. They are getting paid too much not to.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: I asked Khadeen Carrington about St. John's attending so many of his games. "They're at the top of my list." #stjbb
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Smothering a recruit works.
Go figure..........McCullough
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I'm not going to question his recruiting prowess, but it was more than obvious that McCullough was begging for attention. Hometown, top 10 kid, you gotta chase.

We blew that one and it makes me sick.
 
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