Khadeen Carrington (Seton Hall verbal)
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Marco WAS a JUCO player...that is a fact. Hooper only appeared in 2 games at Harvard his freshman year...aka he did not start like I said. That is a fact and I haven't heard of any special circumstances in his case. Severe is considered an "outstanding" shooter according to rivals and comes from one of the best basketball high schools in the nation. So please explain what is so drastically wrong about what I said.
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"“He’s the best player in the state,” said Arbitello"
“Severe is the best shooter in the city,”
"Christ the King guard Jon Severe is a McDonald's All-American Game nominee"
"Congratulations to Jon Severe. He was selected as the MVP of the CHSAA "AA" League this year"
"Strengths:
An attacking young swingman with plenty of talent, Severe shows some early signs of upside and potential. He gets to the rim north to south as well as east to west with a quick first step and good economy of motion. He runs hard in transition, has dexterity putting ..." (not an insider on ESPN)
He also seems like the much better athlete and not just a 3 point chucker like Marco or Hooper. Sounds like the kid can penetrate too.
Was Hooper/Bourgault/Harrison in that group? I never heard of them being MCD nominees. And as I said...Severe seems to have MANY ways to score...inside game, mid range, 3 pointer, etc. Hooper is a pure 3 pt guy, Marco is a pure 3 pt guy, Harrison is terrible from 3.
Edit: Moose this was posted before I saw your post...any way you can move this to Severe's thread?
There were over 800 McDonalds AA nominees this year. Their nominations had no rhyme or reason. And Severe wasn't even close to sniffing a selection.
Severe may be arguably the best Senior in NY (debateable) but he is not the best player in NY as I can name a couple of juniors that he can't touch.
Yeah, he's a better athlete than both Marco and Hooper combined. Shooter? No way.
So, what Bourgault was a JUCO player? What is your point? That is irrelevant to him being a capable shooter.
Once again, so what Hooper didn't play while at Harvard?! He's still known to be a deadeye shooter. All of your points are irrelevant.
Again.... So, what that Rivals considers Severe to be an "outstanding" shooter?! He's probably a heckuva shooter, but have you ever thought there could be some hyperbole, per Rivals, as well?
Besides, what does the high school he attends has to do with the price of cheese? Everyone that plays for solid, high school basketball programs doesn't necessarily fare well on the collegiate level.
So, suddenly Bourgault and Hooper shooting is questionable due to them being "unknowns," right? Albeit, Bourgault has already played in several games, and have shown he can be a capable shooter. OTOH, Severe is a deadeye shooter and not an unknown because Rivals said so, right? We're also in big trouble, if Severe doesn't sign with us, huh? Incredible!
Lastly, there was alot wrong with the previous post I responded to, as well, as this one. Are you that obtuse? You also continue to paint everything black and white, and build strawmen.
1. If you can't even play at Harvard, how good can you possibly be? Why would Harvard keep him on the bench if he's so good? It's a genuinely logical reservation to have. From what I hear he is an insanely good shooter, but it makes me wonder why he couldn't even start at a much worse basketball school than us.
2. So you can scout players better than Rivals? If so, then great! You can be our insider. Using your logic, nothing on Rivals is to be attributed to a prospect meaning good players and bad players are not distinguishable.
3. High school caliber is the same as McDermott doing what he's doing at Duke instead of Creighton. It means more if you excel against the best, not just the mediocre or weak.
4. Bourgault has shown flashes, but really cooled down and hasn't given reason yet to believe he is truly a consistent 3 pt guy. He still has barely played for us. Him and Hooper are not multi-tool scorers. Severe is. Would you rather guys who can score 3 different ways, or 1 different way? Not hard to pick that one.
Just seems like Severe has more tools.
Did you know his situation at Harvard? Elaborate, if you know the situation. I think he had stopped playing before the Christmas holidays, if I'm correct.
Once again, what does what Rivals say has to do with Severe being a known player, and Bourgault and Hooper being unknowns? By the way, I never said Rivals was wrong with Severe, but it's possible it could be some exaggeration. He could very, well be an "outstanding" shooter, but I've been around long enough to know that isn't always the case with kids coming in from high school to college. Not to mention, I've been told that Severe tends to be a "chucker." I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, as I've yet to see him play. I'll also say that I'm confident in my assertion of talent when I get a chance to see a player in action.
If you knew anything about talent translation, then you'd know a kid like McDermott could do the same thing at Duke or any, other high, major program that he's currently doing at Creighton. But you don't know that, so why bother.
Bourgault and Hooper doesn't have to be multi-level scorers to have an effect on a game. Have you ever seen Severe play or just rambling like you usually do? Whether, Severe has been able to score from all levels in high school doesn't necessarily means it's gonna translate to the collegiate game. He could do so; it could take time; or it may never transpire. If he were to come to St. John's, then I'll root for him like any, other player that has donned a Johnnies jersey since I've been a fan. But your argument is weak, per usual.
The discussion was about you trying to denigrate the games of Bourgault and Hooper in an attempt to build up Severe. That isn't a way to present an argument, as it'll be shot down every, single time.
redstorm80
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Have you ever seen any of them play? Max is a much better shooter and thats not a knock on Severe. Also the competition Max played against in high school is way better then what Severe plays against and him being 6'6 compared to Severe's 6'1 helps.
For the record, I really like Severe and would want him here if Jordan doesn't come. He might be a better overall player eventually but to say we are in trouble if Severe doesn't come (Who I dont think we've even offered) is ridiculous