Kentucky game thread

Like many people here, I am having a hard time controlling myself in a repsonse to you. I don't want to start naming names, because to do so without being inclusive would disrespect even the smallest contributor who gives to the University from their wont.

I didn't know the Tafners. I know people who did, and they weren't only generous to the University, they were beloved. They didn't ask for accolades, they just gave lavishly to the University. Like idiots, most of us have been critical of a certain donor who in a well publicized move, pulled his donation for a field house. I say idiots, and I'm one of those idiots, because that person, Jim Riley, was one of the most generous people, with his money and time, that the university has ever known.

When that well publicized debacle occurred (without us knowing all the facts) and the field house was in jeopardy, Don and Eleanor Tafner stepped in, already having given millions to the University, and in effect said, "We'll take care of the field house". They did it because they were exceptionally wonderful people, and loved the university.

The Tafners weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths, not that it would matter. They worked hard, and it wasn't until Don had the brainstorm of neogitating with the BBC for the rights to some programming that they could offer to US Networks, did they strike success - and "Three's Company", one of the most successful sitcoms in U.S. history, a Tafner production, was born.

The fieldhouse benefits students and all of the athletic teams. The renovation of CA, with great student sections, was done because of generous donors. All of the buildings on campus were paid for through the generosity of donors. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US WHO ATTENDED SJU BENEFITTED BY REDUCED TUITITION, SCHOLARSHIPS, AND GRANTS BECAUSE OF THE GENEROSITY OF DONORS. (caps intended)

In my day, SJU tuition was so much cheaper than other private schools, because of donors. I couldn't have afforded to go to a private school anywhere else. In my youth, I wasn't thankful enough. I'm still not, but slowly coming to full realization of that fact. Like you, I knew how to complain, mostly stupidly at times (like you).

Without St. John's, my career would be somewhere else. Maybe I would have found success in a different endeavor, maybe not. My own success was because of some innovative acadmeic programs here. Many of the closest and dearest friends I have went to St. John's, and I made those friendships on campus. Not only are they great friends, but people who help keep me grounded, who have a moral compass and ethics that would be hard to find anywhere.

So when you rail against a simple patch, stop and consider that without those types of people, and there are tens of thousands of people who have contributed large and small to the university. Not enough of us do, because we are mostly dumb and ingrateful.

In reading your post, my first inclinication was to think, "Is this the kind of student my donations help support? Why should I even bother to give?" Then I sat down and wrote this response. I'm going to make another donation this week, not for you, but for me. Thanks for helping to remind me that without people like the Tafners, I wouldn't be where I am today.

Without any disrespect to Mike Repole, who by all accounts of people who know him, is a wonderful guy and a generous university supporter, but there are many huge contributors who we should all try to learn a little about. One guy a few Christmas' ago, wrote a nearly $10 million check to the university, after he had already given millions. Last year, when I needed financial advice, the same guy, who I had never met before, sat down with me for an hour and a half in a private meeting that he had no personal stake in. The reason he met with me in the first place? Simply on a referral of a friend, and the common bond that we both attended St. John's.

As we approach Christmas, and will spend hundreds (some of us thousands) on unneeded gifts, maybe we should consider a gift to the University. Without people like the Tafners, many of us would have afforded less than a community college education. It's time to give back.

Thanks for your post, seriously. It reminded me of just why St. John's is a great school, and a great community. It goes far beyond wins and losses of the basketball or other sports teams. And because of you, tonight, I'm more thankful for that education than I've been in a long, long time.


Are we going to have to put up wit these DT patches for another season? One game is enough, we don't need to wear them for another whole season. I know last year it was ET, but this is getting excessive.
 

Because paying respects to the man who funded the practice facility shouldn't last more than a game. I'm amazed at people sometimes.
 

Im amazed that we put a patch on our basketball jersey for a donor. Have you ever seen any other D1 program do that? I respect and appreciate the taffners and am fine with acknowledging their contributions by other means, and am even ok with wearing the patch for a game or two. But back to back entire seasons is a lot to wear a patch for a non basketball program / student body or faculty member is a very long time. To be honest one of the things I looked forward to was wearing the patches all season this year.

If we're going to wear a pacth it should be for Lavin not a donor, period.
  
 

Alright, Im going to take a step back here. Maybe I did not express my opinion accurately through my posts and it was interpreted incorrectly. My intention was not in any way to disrespect the Taffner family, and what they have done through donations, volunteer time, or love of the university. (or any supporter of the university for that matter). And I like three is company too!

I graduated a few years ago and was on campus when Taffner was built, I have played pick-up basketball many times there. And because of the Taffners part of the facility is donated to the non-athletes at the university. So I along with many others did not have to be kicked off the floor when one of the teams needed the gym to practice - like we did when Carnecesa Arena was the only gym. I too make donations to the school every year like you, and I will continue to do so (granted not nearly as much as the Taffners, but what I can give), not for you and not for me, and not for the athletic teams, but for some person (old or young) out there who wants to receive a catholic education.

I also try to continue the tradition of the values that I learned at SJU, I make sure when I go to church that I put money in the St Vincent DePaul poor box far at least as much as I give to the parish. The Vincentian tradition is also a tradition that does not embellish on individual honors or achievements, but rather on community achievements.

I just simply do not like the look of the patch on the Jerseys (along with the others I have season tix with). I never mentioned this last year because I felt the patch was a great tribute for a season, when I saw it again I decided to make a post. I mean no disrespect to anyone, and I appreciate what the Taffners have done. I support them being horned by the university by all other means (name on the field house, announcements at games, ect.) My post probably should have said “I don’t like the look of the patch on our jerseys”.

I also which they would go back to not having the players names on the back of the jerseys, like in the 80’s.
 
Like many people here, I am having a hard time controlling myself in a repsonse to you. I don't want to start naming names, because to do so without being inclusive would disrespect even the smallest contributor who gives to the University from their wont.

I didn't know the Tafners. I know people who did, and they weren't only generous to the University, they were beloved. They didn't ask for accolades, they just gave lavishly to the University. Like idiots, most of us have been critical of a certain donor who in a well publicized move, pulled his donation for a field house. I say idiots, and I'm one of those idiots, because that person, Jim Riley, was one of the most generous people, with his money and time, that the university has ever known.

When that well publicized debacle occurred (without us knowing all the facts) and the field house was in jeopardy, Don and Eleanor Tafner stepped in, already having given millions to the University, and in effect said, "We'll take care of the field house". They did it because they were exceptionally wonderful people, and loved the university.

The Tafners weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths, not that it would matter. They worked hard, and it wasn't until Don had the brainstorm of neogitating with the BBC for the rights to some programming that they could offer to US Networks, did they strike success - and "Three's Company", one of the most successful sitcoms in U.S. history, a Tafner production, was born.

The fieldhouse benefits students and all of the athletic teams. The renovation of CA, with great student sections, was done because of generous donors. All of the buildings on campus were paid for through the generosity of donors. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US WHO ATTENDED SJU BENEFITTED BY REDUCED TUITITION, SCHOLARSHIPS, AND GRANTS BECAUSE OF THE GENEROSITY OF DONORS. (caps intended)

In my day, SJU tuition was so much cheaper than other private schools, because of donors. I couldn't have afforded to go to a private school anywhere else. In my youth, I wasn't thankful enough. I'm still not, but slowly coming to full realization of that fact. Like you, I knew how to complain, mostly stupidly at times (like you).

Without St. John's, my career would be somewhere else. Maybe I would have found success in a different endeavor, maybe not. My own success was because of some innovative acadmeic programs here. Many of the closest and dearest friends I have went to St. John's, and I made those friendships on campus. Not only are they great friends, but people who help keep me grounded, who have a moral compass and ethics that would be hard to find anywhere.

So when you rail against a simple patch, stop and consider that without those types of people, and there are tens of thousands of people who have contributed large and small to the university. Not enough of us do, because we are mostly dumb and ingrateful.

In reading your post, my first inclinication was to think, "Is this the kind of student my donations help support? Why should I even bother to give?" Then I sat down and wrote this response. I'm going to make another donation this week, not for you, but for me. Thanks for helping to remind me that without people like the Tafners, I wouldn't be where I am today.

Without any disrespect to Mike Repole, who by all accounts of people who know him, is a wonderful guy and a generous university supporter, but there are many huge contributors who we should all try to learn a little about. One guy a few Christmas' ago, wrote a nearly $10 million check to the university, after he had already given millions. Last year, when I needed financial advice, the same guy, who I had never met before, sat down with me for an hour and a half in a private meeting that he had no personal stake in. The reason he met with me in the first place? Simply on a referral of a friend, and the common bond that we both attended St. John's.

As we approach Christmas, and will spend hundreds (some of us thousands) on unneeded gifts, maybe we should consider a gift to the University. Without people like the Tafners, many of us would have afforded less than a community college education. It's time to give back.

Thanks for your post, seriously. It reminded me of just why St. John's is a great school, and a great community. It goes far beyond wins and losses of the basketball or other sports teams. And because of you, tonight, I'm more thankful for that education than I've been in a long, long time.


Are we going to have to put up wit these DT patches for another season? One game is enough, we don't need to wear them for another whole season. I know last year it was ET, but this is getting excessive.
 

Because paying respects to the man who funded the practice facility shouldn't last more than a game. I'm amazed at people sometimes.
 

Im amazed that we put a patch on our basketball jersey for a donor. Have you ever seen any other D1 program do that? I respect and appreciate the taffners and am fine with acknowledging their contributions by other means, and am even ok with wearing the patch for a game or two. But back to back entire seasons is a lot to wear a patch for a non basketball program / student body or faculty member is a very long time. To be honest one of the things I looked forward to was wearing the patches all season this year.

If we're going to wear a pacth it should be for Lavin not a donor, period.
  
 

Alright, Im going to take a step back here. Maybe I did not express my opinion accurately through my posts and it was interpreted incorrectly. My intention was not in any way to disrespect the Taffner family, and what they have done through donations, volunteer time, or love of the university. (or any supporter of the university for that matter). And I like three is company too!

I graduated a few years ago and was on campus when Taffner was built, I have played pick-up basketball many times there. And because of the Taffners part of the facility is donated to the non-athletes at the university. So I along with many others did not have to be kicked off the floor when one of the teams needed the gym to practice - like we did when Carnecesa Arena was the only gym. I too make donations to the school every year like you, and I will continue to do so (granted not nearly as much as the Taffners, but what I can give), not for you and not for me, and not for the athletic teams, but for some person (old or young) out there who wants to receive a catholic education.

I also try to continue the tradition of the values that I learned at SJU, I make sure when I go to church that I put money in the St Vincent DePaul poor box far at least as much as I give to the parish. The Vincentian tradition is also a tradition that does not embellish on individual honors or achievements, but rather on community achievements.

I just simply do not like the look of the patch on the Jerseys (along with the others I have season tix with). I never mentioned this last year because I felt the patch was a great tribute for a season, when I saw it again I decided to make a post. I mean no disrespect to anyone, and I appreciate what the Taffners have done. I support them being horned by the university by all other means (name on the field house, announcements at games, ect.) My post probably should have said “I don’t like the look of the patch on our jerseys”.

I also which they would go back to not having the players names on the back of the jerseys, like in the 80’s.

Just so you know (and I'm not the biggest fan of the patches either), last year's patch was for Mrs. Taffner, who passed away summer of 2010. This year's is for Mr. Taffner, who passed early this fall, I believe. So the patches are technically for two different people (husband and wife, obviously).

I'm just upset that they didn't do anything for Bob Sheappard last year, not even a moment of silence. 
 
Like many people here, I am having a hard time controlling myself in a repsonse to you. I don't want to start naming names, because to do so without being inclusive would disrespect even the smallest contributor who gives to the University from their wont.

I didn't know the Tafners. I know people who did, and they weren't only generous to the University, they were beloved. They didn't ask for accolades, they just gave lavishly to the University. Like idiots, most of us have been critical of a certain donor who in a well publicized move, pulled his donation for a field house. I say idiots, and I'm one of those idiots, because that person, Jim Riley, was one of the most generous people, with his money and time, that the university has ever known.

When that well publicized debacle occurred (without us knowing all the facts) and the field house was in jeopardy, Don and Eleanor Tafner stepped in, already having given millions to the University, and in effect said, "We'll take care of the field house". They did it because they were exceptionally wonderful people, and loved the university.

The Tafners weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths, not that it would matter. They worked hard, and it wasn't until Don had the brainstorm of neogitating with the BBC for the rights to some programming that they could offer to US Networks, did they strike success - and "Three's Company", one of the most successful sitcoms in U.S. history, a Tafner production, was born.

The fieldhouse benefits students and all of the athletic teams. The renovation of CA, with great student sections, was done because of generous donors. All of the buildings on campus were paid for through the generosity of donors. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US WHO ATTENDED SJU BENEFITTED BY REDUCED TUITITION, SCHOLARSHIPS, AND GRANTS BECAUSE OF THE GENEROSITY OF DONORS. (caps intended)

In my day, SJU tuition was so much cheaper than other private schools, because of donors. I couldn't have afforded to go to a private school anywhere else. In my youth, I wasn't thankful enough. I'm still not, but slowly coming to full realization of that fact. Like you, I knew how to complain, mostly stupidly at times (like you).

Without St. John's, my career would be somewhere else. Maybe I would have found success in a different endeavor, maybe not. My own success was because of some innovative acadmeic programs here. Many of the closest and dearest friends I have went to St. John's, and I made those friendships on campus. Not only are they great friends, but people who help keep me grounded, who have a moral compass and ethics that would be hard to find anywhere.

So when you rail against a simple patch, stop and consider that without those types of people, and there are tens of thousands of people who have contributed large and small to the university. Not enough of us do, because we are mostly dumb and ingrateful.

In reading your post, my first inclinication was to think, "Is this the kind of student my donations help support? Why should I even bother to give?" Then I sat down and wrote this response. I'm going to make another donation this week, not for you, but for me. Thanks for helping to remind me that without people like the Tafners, I wouldn't be where I am today.

Without any disrespect to Mike Repole, who by all accounts of people who know him, is a wonderful guy and a generous university supporter, but there are many huge contributors who we should all try to learn a little about. One guy a few Christmas' ago, wrote a nearly $10 million check to the university, after he had already given millions. Last year, when I needed financial advice, the same guy, who I had never met before, sat down with me for an hour and a half in a private meeting that he had no personal stake in. The reason he met with me in the first place? Simply on a referral of a friend, and the common bond that we both attended St. John's.

As we approach Christmas, and will spend hundreds (some of us thousands) on unneeded gifts, maybe we should consider a gift to the University. Without people like the Tafners, many of us would have afforded less than a community college education. It's time to give back.

Thanks for your post, seriously. It reminded me of just why St. John's is a great school, and a great community. It goes far beyond wins and losses of the basketball or other sports teams. And because of you, tonight, I'm more thankful for that education than I've been in a long, long time.


Are we going to have to put up wit these DT patches for another season? One game is enough, we don't need to wear them for another whole season. I know last year it was ET, but this is getting excessive.
 

Because paying respects to the man who funded the practice facility shouldn't last more than a game. I'm amazed at people sometimes.
 

Im amazed that we put a patch on our basketball jersey for a donor. Have you ever seen any other D1 program do that? I respect and appreciate the taffners and am fine with acknowledging their contributions by other means, and am even ok with wearing the patch for a game or two. But back to back entire seasons is a lot to wear a patch for a non basketball program / student body or faculty member is a very long time. To be honest one of the things I looked forward to was wearing the patches all season this year.

If we're going to wear a pacth it should be for Lavin not a donor, period.
  
 

Alright, Im going to take a step back here. Maybe I did not express my opinion accurately through my posts and it was interpreted incorrectly. My intention was not in any way to disrespect the Taffner family, and what they have done through donations, volunteer time, or love of the university. (or any supporter of the university for that matter). And I like three is company too!

I graduated a few years ago and was on campus when Taffner was built, I have played pick-up basketball many times there. And because of the Taffners part of the facility is donated to the non-athletes at the university. So I along with many others did not have to be kicked off the floor when one of the teams needed the gym to practice - like we did when Carnecesa Arena was the only gym. I too make donations to the school every year like you, and I will continue to do so (granted not nearly as much as the Taffners, but what I can give), not for you and not for me, and not for the athletic teams, but for some person (old or young) out there who wants to receive a catholic education.

I also try to continue the tradition of the values that I learned at SJU, I make sure when I go to church that I put money in the St Vincent DePaul poor box far at least as much as I give to the parish. The Vincentian tradition is also a tradition that does not embellish on individual honors or achievements, but rather on community achievements.

I just simply do not like the look of the patch on the Jerseys (along with the others I have season tix with). I never mentioned this last year because I felt the patch was a great tribute for a season, when I saw it again I decided to make a post. I mean no disrespect to anyone, and I appreciate what the Taffners have done. I support them being horned by the university by all other means (name on the field house, announcements at games, ect.) My post probably should have said “I don’t like the look of the patch on our jerseys”.

I also which they would go back to not having the players names on the back of the jerseys, like in the 80’s.

One passed away last year and one passed away this year. I would agree with you if it carried over from last year but that isn't the case.

As for your player names, kids like having their names on their jerseys. It looks cheap without it IMO. We did it with Norm for a few years actually. 
 
[quote="Moose" post=9871As for your player names, kids like having their names on their jerseys. It looks cheap without it IMO. We did it with Norm for a few years actually. [/quote] 

Being a Yankees fan, I'm bred to hate names on the back of jerseys, but with all the newcomers this year, I'm glad we have it this season. Wouldn't have known who was who early on.
 
 This could be a long season.
 

We are playing four freshmen, a junior college center who was recruited to be the back up to Pelle and a JC guard that barley played BB over the past three years.
The experience will be priceless and recruits will know they will get playing time next year!
I cannot remember a younger and less experienced SJ team over the past 30 years.
It can only get better.
Four of the Kentucky players will not be there next year.......we play them next year at the Garden we win. I truly believe that.
 

Hey, I'm not saying that there isn't a good reason for it, but the facts are the facts, we are likely to lose a lot of games this year. I think that the more reasonable people knew that going in. I like this group, and I hope and expect that they improve as the season goes along, but we are thin and young, and as a consequence, it is going to be very difficult to win games in the Big East this season.
 
Woke up this morning at the hotel and I have bruises all over my body from that Kentucky beatdown last night. lol

Couple of things. #1 St Johns did a real nice job with the pre game reception so my thanks to them for that. Was great to see Jerseyshorejohnny again and as always Traczok and his wife Lisa and we met the last kicker for the SJU football team ( for those who are nostalgic over the glory SJU football years ) and we are all meeting up for dinner tonight so that will be fun.

Anyway back to the game. Rupp arena is nice. A see of blue there. Their fans are real nice and completely opposite of UConn and Syracuse fans. They gave Lavin a standing ovation before the game started when they mentioned him during the announcements and wishing him a speedy recovery. It was a very classy move by their fans but having met a bunch of them they are just a real good bunch.

It's pretty obvious now that there is a Huge difference between top 10 recruits and everyone else. It's not even close. I swear I think Kentucky could give a couple of NBA teams a run for their money at Rupp.

We just aren close to them right now.

For those wondering. The game plan by Dunlap was to run the shot clock down to 7 seconds and then run the play. Our misses in the 1st half were a killer. Clearly our team with lack of shooting right now isn't cut out for this but we don't have the horses to run with Kentucky and we had guys in foul trouble as it is. But that wouldn't have even mattered.

The one real positive thing to me last night in a game that you just can't a lot of positives out was God's Gifts aggressiveness. We were kids against men size wise and GG was fantastic I thought against the best competition we will face all year on he road no less. That was great to see.

Game wasn't fun to watch but the trip out here has been fun and that's why I came.

Oh yeah almost forgot. This Kentucky ale bourbon beer is one of the best beers I've ever had. Freaking delicious

    
 
 Oh yeah almost forgot. This Kentucky ale bourbon beer is one of the best beers I've ever had. Freaking delicious


Well, bring some back for us.
 
 This could be a long season.
 

We are playing four freshmen, a junior college center who was recruited to be the back up to Pelle and a JC guard that barley played BB over the past three years.
The experience will be priceless and recruits will know they will get playing time next year!
I cannot remember a younger and less experienced SJ team over the past 30 years.
It can only get better.
Four of the Kentucky players will not be there next year.......we play them next year at the Garden we win. I truly believe that.
 

Hey, I'm not saying that there isn't a good reason for it, but the facts are the facts, we are likely to lose a lot of games this year. I think that the more reasonable people knew that going in. I like this group, and I hope and expect that they improve as the season goes along, but we are thin and young, and as a consequence, it is going to be very difficult to win games in the Big East this season.
 

their four freshmen are men compared to ours. as mjmaherjr points out, there's a world of difference between top ten players and top 100. they may be in the nba next year...but calipari won't have a problem replacing them with other top ten players.

our hope is by the time our guys are juniors, they'll be better than incoming freshmen. maybe one or two top ten players will come here as well. we have every reason to believe it'll happen.
 
If Lindsey does not develop a jump shot, then I think you will see more games like last night from him. Kentucky knew that he couldn't shoot, put a taller player on him, and that was the end of him. If he cannot score on the drive, he's done. He will put up some games against teams that don't have someone tall enough and quick enough to shut off his drive, but any school that scouts SJU at all and who has a player with some length and quickness to spare on defense is going to shut him down.

I agree that it would be nice if Lindsey could shoot but that's not the only issue. If anyone could shoot defenses wouldn't sag as much as they do, which would open up the middle for Lindsey and allow the bigs room to operate. The problem (a problem) is that there's no outside threat at all so there's always 5 defenders inside the foul line.
 

I agree. I believe Harrison can shoot and wacky form aside I think Phil can too. And I'm not sure Pointer won't hit enough 3s to keep a D honest, too.

I think a lot falls on Phil. Nuri just isn't a point guard, and Stith is what he is, so Phil is what you've got. The staff needs to figure out how to set it up so Harkless stays involved on the inside, and Harrison spots up on the outside. Then if the D has to respect Phil's shot, lanes should open up for Nuri.
 
Woke up this morning at the hotel and I have bruises all over my body from that Kentucky beatdown last night. lol

Couple of things. #1 St Johns did a real nice job with the pre game reception so my thanks to them for that. Was great to see Jerseyshorejohnny again and as always Traczok and his wife Lisa and we met the last kicker for the SJU football team ( for those who are nostalgic over the glory SJU football years ) and we are all meeting up for dinner tonight so that will be fun.

Anyway back to the game. Rupp arena is nice. A see of blue there. Their fans are real nice and completely opposite of UConn and Syracuse fans. They gave Lavin a standing ovation before the game started when they mentioned him during the announcements and wishing him a speedy recovery. It was a very classy move by their fans but having met a bunch of them they are just a real good bunch.

It's pretty obvious now that there is a Huge difference between top 10 recruits and everyone else. It's not even close. I swear I think Kentucky could give a couple of NBA teams a run for their money at Rupp.

We just aren close to them right now.

For those wondering. The game plan by Dunlap was to run the shot clock down to 7 seconds and then run the play. Our misses in the 1st half were a killer. Clearly our team with lack of shooting right now isn't cut out for this but we don't have the horses to run with Kentucky and we had guys in foul trouble as it is. But that wouldn't have even mattered.

The one real positive thing to me last night in a game that you just can't a lot of positives out was God's Gifts aggressiveness. We were kids against men size wise and GG was fantastic I thought against the best competition we will face all year on he road no less. That was great to see.

Game wasn't fun to watch but the trip out here has been fun and that's why I came.

Oh yeah almost forgot. This Kentucky ale bourbon beer is one of the best beers I've ever had. Freaking delicious

You know Mike I thought of the same thing last night. What a difference from the # 1 recruiting team to our # 3 team. And have to agree with your comments about God's Gift. We really have to feed him more; several times he was in position in the low post and didn't receive a pass. Some teams previously have doubled up on him; would like to see him make a move and pass off to an open man on the weakside.
Have to agree with Vitale's comment on Harkless, " He has to be more intense." I would like to see him bulk up and be more aggressive.

    
 
 
If Lindsey does not develop a jump shot, then I think you will see more games like last night from him. Kentucky knew that he couldn't shoot, put a taller player on him, and that was the end of him. If he cannot score on the drive, he's done. He will put up some games against teams that don't have someone tall enough and quick enough to shut off his drive, but any school that scouts SJU at all and who has a player with some length and quickness to spare on defense is going to shut him down.

I agree that it would be nice if Lindsey could shoot but that's not the only issue. If anyone could shoot defenses wouldn't sag as much as they do, which would open up the middle for Lindsey and allow the bigs room to operate. The problem (a problem) is that there's no outside threat at all so there's always 5 defenders inside the foul line.
 

I agree. I believe Harrison can shoot and wacky form aside I think Phil can too. And I'm not sure Pointer won't hit enough 3s to keep a D honest, too.

I think a lot falls on Phil. Nuri just isn't a point guard, and Stith is what he is, so Phil is what you've got. The staff needs to figure out how to set it up so Harkless stays involved on the inside, and Harrison spots up on the outside. Then if the D has to respect Phil's shot, lanes should open up for Nuri.
 


I also think that Pointer can be a good outside shooter. I think his percentage is good so far with the limited amounts of shots from 3 that he's taken. I think he's a better offensive player than we've seen. I think he's feeling his way and that he should assert himself more on the offensive end.
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will get the same nice, pleasant reception there. It was a very professional move of them to wish Coach Lavin well.
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will get the same nice, pleasant reception there. It was a very professional move of them to wish Coach Lavin well.
 

Coaster, I was thinking the very same thing. My experience with Kentucky fans has been very different from what was already cited. And I can't help think they weren't so bad last night because it's exactly what you said, they knew St. John's would give them no trouble. I doubt very much if they will treat the Gator and the Heel fans the same way.

But I do agree that it was classy to wish Lavin well, and I would expect that from any fan. Just as the hated Calhoun got well wishes from fans wherever he went upon his return from his health problems.
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will

They were all nice b4 the game also
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will

They were all nice b4 the game also
 

Nice to hear you, Jersey Guy and the others were there as diehard redmen!
The Kentucky fans are a mature fan base that also has the resources to travel well with their team.
In the Lexington area it is God, family and Kentucky basketball.....not necessarily in that order:)
I know they have a great team with at least 4 future pros but I think with Jakarr, Norvel and Amir this may have been much closer.
On to the Motor City!
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will

They were all nice b4 the game also
 

Nice to hear you, Jersey Guy and the others were there as diehard redmen!
The Kentucky fans are a mature fan base that also has the resources to travel well with their team.
In the Lexington area it is God, family and Kentucky basketball.....not necessarily in that order:)
I know they have a great team with at least 4 future pros but I think with Jakarr, Norvel and Amir this may have been much closer.
On to the Motor City!
  Fan base was older but no joke today we were drinking with their student fan base as they camped out for tomorrows game.

We brought them beer and cups and they adopted us as their own.

Funniest line of the day was Traczok asking them if they were part of " occupy Lexington " LOL

They were real good kids and you just might see me tomorrow in their student section in one of the 1st couple of rows
 
 this is a little off topic but how old are g.g. and nuri?
 

they are 20-21. But it is not the age, it is the lack of playing experience that actually puts pretty much on par with the freshmen that have been playing since grade school and in elite camps. Nurideen had not played competitive ball for two years prior to JC and GG started plying as a teen.
 
 Have seen a few comments here that the UK fans were the nice, accomodating, etc. Wonder if they were well behaved since they knew SJU wasn't going to give them much of a game. And wonder if fans of the Florida Gators, or this weekend's UNC fans will

They were all nice b4 the game also
 

Nice to hear you, Jersey Guy and the others were there as diehard redmen!
The Kentucky fans are a mature fan base that also has the resources to travel well with their team.
In the Lexington area it is God, family and Kentucky basketball.....not necessarily in that order:)
I know they have a great team with at least 4 future pros but I think with Jakarr, Norvel and Amir this may have been much closer.

On to the Motor City!
  Fan base was older but no joke today we were drinking with their student fan base as they camped out for tomorrows game.

We brought them beer and cups and they adopted us as their own.

Funniest line of the day was Traczok asking them if they were part of " occupy Lexington " LOL
They were real good kids and you just might see me tomorrow in their student section in one of the 1st couple of
rows
 

Maher, you are one wild and crazy guy! LOL!!!
 
Kentucky's front line, lead by Jones(a man amongst boys) and Davis, was simply to big and to talented for us. Other then those 2, I don't see much of a difference in talent between the 2 teams. With our current group of kids maturing, and with the addition of a few more kids (and some big bodies), we'll be giving the Kentuckys, Dukes, UCONNs, etc. a run for their money in the coming years.
 
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