Jakarr Declaring?

It not shocking to me even though the staff expected everyone back. Walter Berry had lead everyone to believe he was coming back only to change his mind at the deadline.

It comes down to it doesn't matter what we think or whether or not he got good advice. It comes down to what the player thinks and what he wants to do.

Casey Jacobsen played for Stanford a few years back and decided to apply for the draft after his junior year. The reason was that it didn't matter if he went after his junior year or waited another year, he was projected to be drafted upper mid to late first round either way, so why wait if he wanted a shot? The first contract is slotted/capped. It is the second one that player's who show promise who make a nice salary jump, so it is one more year of potential earning.

There are no slam dunks in the draft as everyone has flaws in their game. Of course you have some with higher ceilings, are more advanced, more talented and less flawed. Jakarta at times looked like he regressed while at other times his 12 - 15 footers were deadly. No doubt I believe another year would have helped and yes it is a big lost especially with no one readily apparent to replace him. That makes four open scholarships.
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You don't think Lavin had a clue? If not, he should have. Not that it would have changed anything.
 
6-8 weeks ago Lavin said he had to replace 3-4 kids..........since 3 were definitely gone, he knew more might happen............it's time to get them Steve!!!!
 
6-8 weeks ago Lavin said he had to replace 3-4 kids..........since 3 were definitely gone, he knew more might happen............it's time to get them Steve!!!!
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5 is the scary number.
 
It not shocking to me even though the staff expected everyone back. Walter Berry had lead everyone to believe he was coming back only to change his mind at the deadline.

It comes down to it doesn't matter what we think or whether or not he got good advice. It comes down to what the player thinks and what he wants to do.

Casey Jacobsen played for Stanford a few years back and decided to apply for the draft after his junior year. The reason was that it didn't matter if he went after his junior year or waited another year, he was projected to be drafted upper mid to late first round either way, so why wait if he wanted a shot? The first contract is slotted/capped. It is the second one that player's who show promise who make a nice salary jump, so it is one more year of potential earning.

There are no slam dunks in the draft as everyone has flaws in their game. Of course you have some with higher ceilings, are more advanced, more talented and less flawed. Jakarta at times looked like he regressed while at other times his 12 - 15 footers were deadly. No doubt I believe another year would have helped and yes it is a big lost especially with no one readily apparent to replace him. That makes four open scholarships.
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You don't think Lavin had a clue? If not, he should have. Not that it would have changed anything.
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I don't believe I stated that he did or didn't have a clue. I am sure he knew the possibility existed that Sampson and/or Jordan might not stay (let alone Obekpa). Sampson also is quoted in Newsday as having discussed this with his family and Lavin. And you are right, it wouldn't change anything either way.
 
Im suddenly more excited for this spring and summer. Lav has no choice but to bust his ass to sign some kids. Every transfer and late de-pledge becomes an immediate prospect.
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Unfortunately, unless the kid is graduating or gets a waiver, transfers don't help us next year.
 
6-8 weeks ago Lavin said he had to replace 3-4 kids..........since 3 were definitely gone, he knew more might happen............it's time to get them Steve!!!!
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Who is he going to land this late in the game? Our best bet is that he lands a de commit.

The way I see the Jakarr thing is that he is a d league player now or if he leaves in 2 years. If he leaves now at least he earns something for the next two years.
 
So I was on holy land of hoops reading the thread there about Jakarr declaring, and I found an old friend Joe3 going crazy as always lol, guess our old pal found a new home...
 
Wish him the best of luck.
But quite frankly, his decision does not bother me one bit from an SJU perspective. From the first day, not a very big fan of his game. I found him to be a black hole on offense and robotic or awkward with the ball. He, unlike Harkless (I can't fathom how Sampson was ranked higher coming out of high school), is very far from a complete player.
 
6-8 weeks ago Lavin said he had to replace 3-4 kids..........since 3 were definitely gone, he knew more might happen............it's time to get them Steve!!!!
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Who is he going to land this late in the game? Our best bet is that he lands a de commit.

The way I see the Jakarr thing is that he is a d league player now or if he leaves in 2 years. If he leaves now at least he earns something for the next two years.
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Good point on Jakarr. Staff knew he could go, but to date have not been able to compensate for that. If one more front court domino falls, prognosis is not positive for next year, unless something miraculous happens. Not in panic, just being realistic. Let's hope JS is only inside player to leave. DelaRosa boys & Jones won't compensate for such a loss. Hope I am proven wrong, but that big time fifth year interior player, Juco or decomit may not materialize.
 
6-8 weeks ago Lavin said he had to replace 3-4 kids..........since 3 were definitely gone, he knew more might happen............it's time to get them Steve!!!!
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Who is he going to land this late in the game? Our best bet is that he lands a de commit.

The way I see the Jakarr thing is that he is a d league player now or if he leaves in 2 years. If he leaves now at least he earns something for the next two years.
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Good point on Jakarr. Staff knew he could go, but to date have not been able to compensate for that. If one more front court domino falls, prognosis is not positive for next year, unless something miraculous happens. Not in panic, just being realistic. Let's hope JS is only inside player to leave. DelaRosa boys & Jones won't compensate for such a loss. Hope I am proven wrong, but that big time fifth year interior player, Juco or decomit may not materialize.
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I would say we're there already. Jones + Delarosa cannot replace Sampson + Sanchez + Gift. Not even remotely close, IMO.
 
I love Jakarr, and we're going to miss his production next year, but anyone watching him over the course of the season can clearly see his flaws that are going to hold him back. He's not big enough to play the 4 at the next level, and he's not explosive enough to play the 3 at the next level. He found a niche knocking down 18 foot jumpers, but he was rarely ever able to create his own shot. His rebounding, defense, steady jumper, finishing inside on an assist, and infectious personality are surely to be missed though.
 
Are we sure it is the nba draft and not the army? This is a dumb move. Hope he doesn't hire an agent.
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He might have a better chance being drafted by the army (when it comes to this upcoming NBA draft).

I think one more offseason of work and on the floor with the Johnnies would certainly improve his stock.
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Hate to say it, but he may realize he is not getting better here & needs to take a different approach. I agree with post above however.
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I thought about this possibility as well Paultz. Not only may he see himself not getting better here, but he may see his stock actually going backwards from year to year. Top 30ish recruit considering the likes of Kansas and Florida, to BE ROY in need of some improvement to be NBA caliber, to 2nd or 3rd best player on a non NCAA team who has made 1 college 3 pointer in 2 seasons. While I think the best path to the NBA for him would have been digging in, improving his game materially here, and garnering attention by leading this team to success, the possibility certainly exists that wasn't going to happen and his stock was only going to fall further.

Either way, best of luck to him.

I'm torn on where this leaves us for next year. I certainly don't think it helps. It's like when you're frustrated with a coach and only focus on getting rid of the coach without thinking about if you can get someone better. Jakarr was far from perfect but I don't know how easily his rebounding in particular will be replaced. On the flip side, agree with what many have said about him stagnating our offense. The best part of his offensive game was really that 15 footer. Found him to be a less effective finisher than he should be for his size and athleticism. Would give you the highlight reel dunk, but far too often would fail to convert (missed/blocked) on layups/dunks that should have been finished, especially in key moments. The fact that Carson Derosiers got the best of him at the rim, 1 on 1, in a 1 point game, with the season on the line after mounting a huge comeback, certainly stands out. He's going to have to maneuver far better players at the next level, wherever that is for him.
 
Something else must be going on. What, I don't know. But why would anyone leave without a guarantee of first round money when your career is on the rise in college? He could have made great strides next year. If he continued to improve, he could sneak into the first round next year. I don't see him even getting drafted in this year's draft unless a large number of guys decide not to come out.
 
Are we sure it is the nba draft and not the army? This is a dumb move. Hope he doesn't hire an agent.
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He might have a better chance being drafted by the army (when it comes to this upcoming NBA draft).

I think one more offseason of work and on the floor with the Johnnies would certainly improve his stock.
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Hate to say it, but he may realize he is not getting better here & needs to take a different approach. I agree with post above however.
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I thought about this possibility as well Paultz. Not only may he see himself not getting better here, but he may see his stock actually going backwards from year to year. Top 30ish recruit considering the likes of Kansas and Florida, to BE ROY in need of some improvement to be NBA caliber, to 2nd or 3rd best player on a non NCAA team who has made 1 college 3 pointer in 2 seasons. While I think the best path to the NBA for him would have been digging in, improving his game materially here, and garnering attention by leading this team to success, the possibility certainly exists that wasn't going to happen and his stock was only going to fall further.

Either way, best of luck to him.

I'm torn on where this leaves us for next year. I certainly don't think it helps. It's like when you're frustrated with a coach and only focus on getting rid of the coach without thinking about if you can get someone better. Jakarr was far from perfect but I don't know how easily his rebounding in particular will be replaced. On the flip side, agree with what many have said about him stagnating our offense. The best part of his offensive game was really that 15 footer. Found him to be a less effective finisher than he should be for his size and athleticism. Would give you the highlight reel dunk, but far too often would fail to convert (missed/blocked) on layups/dunks that should have been finished, especially in key moments. The fact that Carson Derosiers got the best of him at the rim, 1 on 1, in a 1 point game, with the season on the line after mounting a huge comeback, certainly stands out. He's going to have to maneuver far better players at the next level, wherever that is for him.
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Nice assessment in second paragraph.
 
Are we sure it is the nba draft and not the army? This is a dumb move. Hope he doesn't hire an agent.
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He might have a better chance being drafted by the army (when it comes to this upcoming NBA draft).

I think one more offseason of work and on the floor with the Johnnies would certainly improve his stock.
Click to expand...

Hate to say it, but he may realize he is not getting better here & needs to take a different approach. I agree with post above however.
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I thought about this possibility as well Paultz. Not only may he see himself not getting better here, but he may see his stock actually going backwards from year to year. Top 30ish recruit considering the likes of Kansas and Florida, to BE ROY in need of some improvement to be NBA caliber, to 2nd or 3rd best player on a non NCAA team who has made 1 college 3 pointer in 2 seasons. While I think the best path to the NBA for him would have been digging in, improving his game materially here, and garnering attention by leading this team to success, the possibility certainly exists that wasn't going to happen and his stock was only going to fall further.

Either way, best of luck to him.

I'm torn on where this leaves us for next year. I certainly don't think it helps. It's like when you're frustrated with a coach and only focus on getting rid of the coach without thinking about if you can get someone better. Jakarr was far from perfect but I don't know how easily his rebounding in particular will be replaced. On the flip side, agree with what many have said about him stagnating our offense. The best part of his offensive game was really that 15 footer. Found him to be a less effective finisher than he should be for his size and athleticism. Would give you the highlight reel dunk, but far too often would fail to convert (missed/blocked) on layups/dunks that should have been finished, especially in key moments. The fact that Carson Derosiers got the best of him at the rim, 1 on 1, in a 1 point game, with the season on the line after mounting a huge comeback, certainly stands out. He's going to have to maneuver far better players at the next level, wherever that is for him.
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Sadly, his NBA prospects probably would have been brighter had he declared last year.

That is what worries me about trying to recruit new talent now. Is the program under Lavin now going to get a reputation for being the place “Where NBA Dreams Go to Die?”
 
Yeah because Harkless' dream is dying and the 13 other players Lavin has put in the league.

You could give John Wooden's Sampson for two years and the results would have been the same. Some guys have the "It" factor and some don't. That is why only a selective few play well in the NBA.
 
Yeah because Harkless' dream is dying and the 13 other players Lavin has put in the league.

You could give John Wooden's Sampson for two years and the results would have been the same. Some guys have the "It" factor and some don't. That is why only a selective few play well in the NBA.
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Harkless was coached by Dunlap.
 
i met Jakarr a couple of times. He was great with my 7 yr old son too. So, we are fans like many on here. As fans and people that actually root for you, we all seem to be in agreement that this is a huge mistake. Its not an opinion of people that are selfish. Yes, we want a winning program, but our opinion is for a kid we cheer for and know that your ultimate goal is the NBA. As fans, we've been around players for many years, some of us A LONG TIME. So, its puzzling that anyone that actually cares about your future would give you such advice. You need to work on your game, period. Unless you are closer to Lebron than we all think, and Lebron has assured you that the Heat will draft you, Id say, like everyone else on here, pull back. Reconsider and do not hire an agent. There have been tons of players that are "Athletic", look no further than any D-League roster. This draft is stacked and as a fan of yours i hate to say but your name will not be called. I truly hope im wrong, i will be rooting for you, but whoever is advising you so far, run away from this person or people!
 
also, " I have been advised that I can be a late first round or second round pick". REALLY ???? Here is a simple question, take advice some one or even a few people, or thousands of people including DRAFT experts who say you will go undrafted. Come on Karr, see the light??????? Change your mind dude, before its too late.
 
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