Jakarr Declaring?
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For those without Insider here's Chad Ford's comments:
JaKarr Sampson, F, So., St. John's
Sampson has the physical tools NBA scouts look for in a wing -- he's long, explosive and runs the floor well -- but he's still stuck as a tweener at the next level. He has no real jump shot to speak of, especially from beyond the arc, but lacks the physical tools to really play at the four. He has no business declaring for the draft right now, and is a borderline second-round prospect.
I'm not saying anything since I was one of the most vocal thinking Mo wouldn't make the first round, much less the lottery. That said Chad Ford has him ranked as the 137th best prospect and 34th best PF. He can't be a SF with his range and jumper. If there's no other reason like academics or economics hurrying him along then this is likely an ill informed decision. But it's his decision and he played hard for the school so good luck to him.
JaKarr Sampson, F, So., St. John's
Sampson has the physical tools NBA scouts look for in a wing -- he's long, explosive and runs the floor well -- but he's still stuck as a tweener at the next level. He has no real jump shot to speak of, especially from beyond the arc, but lacks the physical tools to really play at the four. He has no business declaring for the draft right now, and is a borderline second-round prospect.
I'm not saying anything since I was one of the most vocal thinking Mo wouldn't make the first round, much less the lottery. That said Chad Ford has him ranked as the 137th best prospect and 34th best PF. He can't be a SF with his range and jumper. If there's no other reason like academics or economics hurrying him along then this is likely an ill informed decision. But it's his decision and he played hard for the school so good luck to him.
While being Big East ROY is certainly a good start, it does not automatically qualify you as an "impact player". Jakarr was nowhere near an "impact player" IMO. Neither was Moe, and he was also ROY. Here's a link to a list of all Big East Rookies of the year:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men's_Basketball_Rookie_of_the_Year. Mnay of them were decent college players but not impact players.
Jakarr leaving has nothing to do with that. And fwiw, im a fan of balamou.
southernjohnny2
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I said earlier this season there is no chance any of these kids get drafted...this team needs solid shooters
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Impact players make a positive difference in the "win" category. Sampson had little impact in that area. In fact, we may have lost a couple of games because of his lack of impact! He was ROY in the old Big East but bombed in the smaller 10 team league and got no mention as an all-conference player. There is an impact in that statement! To get an idea of an impact player you need to look at a teammate of his Warren of NC St who led his team to the NCAA and who averaged better numbers than most of the ACC's best players. He likely will be a lottery pick and he has not even declared yet! Jakarr just wants to get out of town ASAP after his end of season debacles!
Balamou would have been better at the three next season than Sampson. I really like the Sampson but this is not a crippling loss by any means. Sampson is mostly potential and sizzle, but potential doesn't put points on the board and a layup is worth the same as a tomahawk dunk. Sampson was a mistake machine. We'll miss his offensive rebounding, but that is about it. He didn't defend well and I feel like his offense took us out of rhythm too often.
redstorm80
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Not my life so cant really judge him. Dont think he will find himself in the NBA but if he needs the money and is aware that he'll probably be over seas or in the D league how could you hate? Wish him the best of luck
Time to see what this staff is made of. No more excuses, its been long enough time to produce and prove to the fans that they deserve this extension
Time to see what this staff is made of. No more excuses, its been long enough time to produce and prove to the fans that they deserve this extension
upstate redman
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To sum up Marillac, I usually yelled "NO" when either Jakarr or Sanchez looked like they were about to shoot the ball. I won't even continue on but I think other than lack of depth this doesn't hurt us. Was never really a fan of his game.
"It were not best that we should all think alike it is the difference of opinion that makes horse races." – from Pudd’nhead Wilson
Mark Twain
I won't argue with those who find fault in Jakaar's game. However I think one can always find fault with any player's game. Personally I am sorry Jakaar's time at St. John's is over. Although not every game he played was great, he certainly had many great moments for us. Most notably this season, was the lock down defense he played on Doug McDermott in the second half of the Creighton game at MSG. His intense defense smothered the national player of the year for the last nine minutes of the second half and allowed him no touches and keyed St. John's most significant win of the season.
There were many other fine moments that he had over his two year's here. While I don't think he is NBA ready and would have loved for him to stay at St. John's I've learned it is hard to project to the next level.
Kentucky once had an undersized, poor shooting, undisciplined point guard who I thought had no shot at any kind of NBA career. He left school to apply for the draft after a disappointing Sophomore season and I never thought anyone would waste a draft pick on him. I was shocked when the Phoenix Suns drafted him as the 21st overall pick in the first round. Fortunately for them, I thought, they dumped him on the Boston Celtics before he played a game in the pros. Well Boston saw something in Rajon Rondo that I missed. He exceeded any reasonable projections made for him and quickly blossomed into an All-Star and helped lead them to an NBA title. Understand I am not predicting anything like this for Jakaar, but you can't always know what is the best move for an individual or the twists and turns their career takes. I just hope however this turns out that it turns out well for him.
BTW I once ran in to Jakaar in a pizzeria on Union Tpke. after a game and he couldn't have been more personable or nice. I really hope he is able to carve out both a career playing basketball and also finds time to get his degree to help him on to a path for success after basketball.
Mark Twain
I won't argue with those who find fault in Jakaar's game. However I think one can always find fault with any player's game. Personally I am sorry Jakaar's time at St. John's is over. Although not every game he played was great, he certainly had many great moments for us. Most notably this season, was the lock down defense he played on Doug McDermott in the second half of the Creighton game at MSG. His intense defense smothered the national player of the year for the last nine minutes of the second half and allowed him no touches and keyed St. John's most significant win of the season.
There were many other fine moments that he had over his two year's here. While I don't think he is NBA ready and would have loved for him to stay at St. John's I've learned it is hard to project to the next level.
Kentucky once had an undersized, poor shooting, undisciplined point guard who I thought had no shot at any kind of NBA career. He left school to apply for the draft after a disappointing Sophomore season and I never thought anyone would waste a draft pick on him. I was shocked when the Phoenix Suns drafted him as the 21st overall pick in the first round. Fortunately for them, I thought, they dumped him on the Boston Celtics before he played a game in the pros. Well Boston saw something in Rajon Rondo that I missed. He exceeded any reasonable projections made for him and quickly blossomed into an All-Star and helped lead them to an NBA title. Understand I am not predicting anything like this for Jakaar, but you can't always know what is the best move for an individual or the twists and turns their career takes. I just hope however this turns out that it turns out well for him.
BTW I once ran in to Jakaar in a pizzeria on Union Tpke. after a game and he couldn't have been more personable or nice. I really hope he is able to carve out both a career playing basketball and also finds time to get his degree to help him on to a path for success after basketball.
beast of the east
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Disagree. Sampson shot nearly 50% from the field, and open from 15, was easily our best shooter. His loss leaves a big hole in our offensive production. This NCAA season is not even over yet, and already "wait till next year" isn't looking so good either. He may have been inconsistent and a poor FT shooter, but replacing 12.5 ppg even in a bad sophomore campaign will be no easy task.
Makes you wonder if this decision impacted contract extension discussions which led to the unsubstantiated rumors of Lavin leaving put out there by Baldi on JJ...don't generally take anything that he says seriously but I have to believe that this has caught the staff and admin by the surprise as it was stated that they expected to have everyone back next year...
again, just conjecture on my part, and admittedly the dots are pretty far apart to necessarily connect them
again, just conjecture on my part, and admittedly the dots are pretty far apart to necessarily connect them
It not shocking to me even though the staff expected everyone back. Walter Berry had lead everyone to believe he was coming back only to change his mind at the deadline.
It comes down to it doesn't matter what we think or whether or not he got good advice. It comes down to what the player thinks and what he wants to do.
Casey Jacobsen played for Stanford a few years back and decided to apply for the draft after his junior year. The reason was that it didn't matter if he went after his junior year or waited another year, he was projected to be drafted upper mid to late first round either way, so why wait if he wanted a shot? The first contract is slotted/capped. It is the second one that player's who show promise who make a nice salary jump, so it is one more year of potential earning.
There are no slam dunks in the draft as everyone has flaws in their game. Of course you have some with higher ceilings, are more advanced, more talented and less flawed. Jakarta at times looked like he regressed while at other times his 12 - 15 footers were deadly. No doubt I believe another year would have helped and yes it is a big lost especially with no one readily apparent to replace him. That makes four open scholarships.
It comes down to it doesn't matter what we think or whether or not he got good advice. It comes down to what the player thinks and what he wants to do.
Casey Jacobsen played for Stanford a few years back and decided to apply for the draft after his junior year. The reason was that it didn't matter if he went after his junior year or waited another year, he was projected to be drafted upper mid to late first round either way, so why wait if he wanted a shot? The first contract is slotted/capped. It is the second one that player's who show promise who make a nice salary jump, so it is one more year of potential earning.
There are no slam dunks in the draft as everyone has flaws in their game. Of course you have some with higher ceilings, are more advanced, more talented and less flawed. Jakarta at times looked like he regressed while at other times his 12 - 15 footers were deadly. No doubt I believe another year would have helped and yes it is a big lost especially with no one readily apparent to replace him. That makes four open scholarships.
Im suddenly more excited for this spring and summer. Lav has no choice but to bust his ass to sign some kids. Every transfer and late de-pledge becomes an immediate prospect.