Fair enough. I'll restrain from further comment on the Lavin extension topic until the season begins.
Actually, you didn't start the hijacking of the thread. Fair enough on your part, nonetheless.
Fair enough. I'll restrain from further comment on the Lavin extension topic until the season begins.
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?
By the simple fact that if the 36-36 record was the be all as you seem to think it is he would not be the coach now.
Stop cherry picking things taken out of context. Jay Wright’s first 4 years in the Big East were 32-32 with just 1 winning BE record in his 4th year. And he took over for a coach who went to the NCAA’s 4 times at Villanova (Lappas). Lavin did not take over from a coach who enjoyed MORE success than he has, not even close.
Norm Robert’s first 4 years at SJU his League record was 19-47 and not only did he not get fired he got a rollover extension that lasted another 2 years.
Get a clue genius.
In Jay Wright's 4th year, he didn't just have a winning BE record, he took Nova to the Sweet 16. He hasn't looked back since.
Lavin is entering year 5 - year 4, if you want to factor in the year Dunlap coached. It is do or die for him at this point.
By the way, the Norm comparison is not appropriate. Lavin is being paid quadruple what Norm was paid. In other words, he's being paid to generate Jay Wright-type results. But just getting into the Tournament on a regular basis would make most fans happy, myself included.
Barring a complete disaster Lavin is not getting fired.
Barring a complete disaster Lavin is not getting fired.
That's your opinion. I disagree.
I think we miss the tournament and he's not resigned. But I will admit, if he lands Briscoe, he's back on the sidelines next year whether we have a great season or not.
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?
By the simple fact that if the 36-36 record was the be all as you seem to think it is he would not be the coach now.
Stop cherry picking things taken out of context. Jay Wright’s first 4 years in the Big East were 32-32 with just 1 winning BE record in his 4th year. And he took over for a coach who went to the NCAA’s 4 times at Villanova (Lappas). Lavin did not take over from a coach who enjoyed MORE success than he has, not even close.
Norm Robert’s first 4 years at SJU his League record was 19-47 and not only did he not get fired he got a rollover extension that lasted another 2 years.
Get a clue genius.
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?
By the simple fact that if the 36-36 record was the be all as you seem to think it is he would not be the coach now.
Stop cherry picking things taken out of context. Jay Wright’s first 4 years in the Big East were 32-32 with just 1 winning BE record in his 4th year. And he took over for a coach who went to the NCAA’s 4 times at Villanova (Lappas). Lavin did not take over from a coach who enjoyed MORE success than he has, not even close.
Norm Robert’s first 4 years at SJU his League record was 19-47 and not only did he not get fired he got a rollover extension that lasted another 2 years.
Get a clue genius.
You make some good points but can we get to a place where you don't need to be calling out people or insulting them? Mr. Otis is a good guy who has volunteered his time on here for over a decade. While I don't agree with everything, he has pretty much stuck unemotionally to only facts, questions or simple, unadulterated opinions. I can never in 15 years ever remember Otis insulting anyone or being less than respectful to people. He doesn't deserve this.
Hey MJ is that you in the glasses and Realfan in the car?
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?
By the simple fact that if the 36-36 record was the be all as you seem to think it is he would not be the coach now.
Stop cherry picking things taken out of context. Jay Wright’s first 4 years in the Big East were 32-32 with just 1 winning BE record in his 4th year. And he took over for a coach who went to the NCAA’s 4 times at Villanova (Lappas). Lavin did not take over from a coach who enjoyed MORE success than he has, not even close.
Norm Robert’s first 4 years at SJU his League record was 19-47 and not only did he not get fired he got a rollover extension that lasted another 2 years.
Get a clue genius.
You make some good points but can we get to a place where you don't need to be calling out people or insulting them? Mr. Otis is a good guy who has volunteered his time on here for over a decade. While I don't agree with everything, he has pretty much stuck unemotionally to only facts, questions or simple, unadulterated opinions. I can never in 15 years ever remember Otis insulting anyone or being less than respectful to people. He doesn't deserve this.
C'mon. He is passive aggressive and knows exactly how to get under peoples skin and flame the board without outwardly appearing to do so. Obviously if several people have issues with him, maybe you should take a look into it. You're going to lose a lot of good posters (you already have actually) and will be left with a garbage forum that will be nothing but Lavin bashers. I know I'm not a poster that will be missed, however this is my final post. Thank you Paul for the website and the interaction I've been able to have with some SJU fans. Thank you Tom in Salem for being a moderator and a true fan even though you didn't always agree with Lavin. Here's to a great season. Take care SJU fans, should be a great year!
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?
By the simple fact that if the 36-36 record was the be all as you seem to think it is he would not be the coach now.
Stop cherry picking things taken out of context. Jay Wright’s first 4 years in the Big East were 32-32 with just 1 winning BE record in his 4th year. And he took over for a coach who went to the NCAA’s 4 times at Villanova (Lappas). Lavin did not take over from a coach who enjoyed MORE success than he has, not even close.
Norm Robert’s first 4 years at SJU his League record was 19-47 and not only did he not get fired he got a rollover extension that lasted another 2 years.
Get a clue genius.
You make some good points but can we get to a place where you don't need to be calling out people or insulting them? Mr. Otis is a good guy who has volunteered his time on here for over a decade. While I don't agree with everything, he has pretty much stuck unemotionally to only facts, questions or simple, unadulterated opinions. I can never in 15 years ever remember Otis insulting anyone or being less than respectful to people. He doesn't deserve this.
C'mon. He is passive aggressive and knows exactly how to get under peoples skin and flame the board without outwardly appearing to do so. Obviously if several people have issues with him, maybe you should take a look into it. You're going to lose a lot of good posters (you already have actually) and will be left with a garbage forum that will be nothing but Lavin bashers. I know I'm not a poster that will be missed, however this is my final post. Thank you Paul for the website and the interaction I've been able to have with some SJU fans. Thank you Tom in Salem for being a moderator and a true fan even though you didn't always agree with Lavin. Here's to a great season. Take care SJU fans, should be a great year!
not signing Briscoe requires us to have a huge season to get the attention of quality players. If not, we will remain an NIT team at best.
Ummmmmmm.... Okay. Whatever.
not signing Briscoe requires us to have a huge season to get the attention of quality players. If not, we will remain an NIT team at best.
Ummmmmmm.... Okay. Whatever.
I thought Lavin would turn it around as well as you but so far one NCAA and two NIT's.
not signing Briscoe requires us to have a huge season to get the attention of quality players. If not, we will remain an NIT team at best.
Ummmmmmm.... Okay. Whatever.
I thought Lavin would turn it around as well as you but so far one NCAA and two NIT's.
I can't remember realfan or scotch necessarily directly name calling or insulting someone all the time by that standard.
He is an incessant whiner who makes things up to fit his agenda and then repeats it.
With all due respect there are plenty of ways to insult someone then directly calling them out.
.... as I have said before to the administration won and loss factor is not controlling.
What has President Bobby Gempesaw said that leads you to the conclusion that he is satisfied with the school's return on investment for Mr. Lavin's Big East record of 36 wins and 36 losses ?