I Wonder Why?

[fun]

Tell me why we don't get home court calls.

Through 5 home games this year SJU has shot 50+ more free throws that its opponents. In every win the FT differential accounted for the margin of victory. How much more of an advantage would you find fair.

 

[jumbo_peanuts]

I wonder why every game we play in Madison Square Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I wonder why people on this board still insist that they know more about the game of basketball than our coaching staff.....

I wonder why people here consider themselves the next coming of John Wooden......

 

[JohnnyFan]

I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

Wow.....respectfully, yet strongly disagree.

 

[paultzman]

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I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

You can't be serious

Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities

Get enough mannequins in seats & piped in noise, I guess we go undefeated at MSG. Always something. Put a consistently good team on the floor and folks will come ala the Hardy/ Pitt game. Also, can't we just accept, despite a nice comeback, the better team won?

 

[dee]

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I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

You can't be serious

Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities

Get enough mannequins in seats & piped in noise, I guess we go undefeated at MSG. Always something. Put a consistently good team on the floor and folks will come ala the Hardy/ Pitt game. Also, can't we just accept, despite a nice comeback, the better team won?

Gonzaga may be a better team but we had them beaten. Even Mark Few was getting nervous after Greene hit that 3 pointer. We had them on the ropes but the refs didnt give us the Jordan call. I am not even asking for a "home town call" That was just an obvious foul but they looked the other way and ruled it a turnover. The Harrison call was the right call but of course it was a call that went AGAINST st johns. They get those calls right ALL the time

 

[paultzman]

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I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

You can't be serious

Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities

Get enough mannequins in seats & piped in noise, I guess we go undefeated at MSG. Always something. Put a consistently good team on the floor and folks will come ala the Hardy/ Pitt game. Also, can't we just accept, despite a nice comeback, the better team won?

Gonzaga may be a better team but we had them beaten. Even Mark Few was getting nervous after Greene hit that 3 pointer. We had them on the ropes but the refs didnt give us the Jordan call. I am not even asking for a "home town call" That was just an obvious foul but they looked the other way and ruled it a turnover. The Harrison call was the right call but of course it was a call that went AGAINST st johns. They get those calls right ALL the time

Move on. We lost. Whining over calls is senseless at this point. Perhaps team needs to look at how they fell behind by 15. Making up those type leads is draining.

 

[frank61]

I wonder why every game we play in Madison Square Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

Another CLASSIC post. I think one of your best!

 

[beast of the east]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

 

[rcatalano]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

 

[Chris7]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

How about a few high profile games period. Look at our schedule, it sucks! Why pay money for most of these lollipop games until January? I get the first 4-5 games should be a breeze, and yes we just played Gonzaga (tix not included in season tix), but FDU, St. Mary's, LBS? I mean come on.

 

[redmannorth]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

Sorry but I attended SJU from 1981 to 1983 and we continually sold out MSG. A ticket was hard to come by.

 

[Mean Gene]

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I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

You can't be serious

Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities

Get enough mannequins in seats & piped in noise, I guess we go undefeated at MSG. Always something. Put a consistently good team on the floor and folks will come ala the Hardy/ Pitt game. Also, can't we just accept, despite a nice comeback, the better team won?

Gonzaga may be a better team but we had them beaten. Even Mark Few was getting nervous after Greene hit that 3 pointer. We had them on the ropes but the refs didnt give us the Jordan call. I am not even asking for a "home town call" That was just an obvious foul but they looked the other way and ruled it a turnover. The Harrison call was the right call but of course it was a call that went AGAINST st johns. They get those calls right ALL the time

Move on. We lost. Whining over calls is senseless at this point. Perhaps team needs to look at how they fell behind by 15. Making up those type leads is draining.

Agreed Paultzman, just like the BE Tournament last season when we came back against Providence. Bottom line is, if Lavin was able to recruit a couple of quality big men who were eligible to play Gonzaga's big men wouldn't have killed us inside offensively the way they did and we would have won regardless. We would have won if we just hit a our foul shots all game.

 

[SJU14]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

How about a few high profile games period. Look at our schedule, it sucks! Why pay money for most of these lollipop games until January? I get the first 4-5 games should be a breeze, and yes we just played Gonzaga (tix not included in season tix), but FDU, St. Mary's, LBS? I mean come on.

First off, every school in America has these games. This isn't something just SJU does. Second, St. Mary's is a very good team, so I wouldn't consider them a breeze. Also, having Minnesota, Gonzaga, Duke, and Cuse all in our own state is something that most teams in the country don't have. Most of the big games this past week have been true neutral site games, with many of them being long flights away. I think our schedule this year was done very well and I will support this team.

I understand that these games aren't with the ticket package, but that's just how it goes with the early season tournaments. If you wanna go to these games and save some money, try selling some of the tickets you have to games you can't make. I know a few people that do this.

 

[Moose]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

Sorry but I attended SJU from 1981 to 1983 and we continually sold out MSG. A ticket was hard to come by.

But it's not the 80's anymore. There is a lot more to do. Lot more places to spend time and money and a lot more distractions. And ways to watch a game

 

[rcatalano]

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I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

Sorry but I attended SJU from 1981 to 1983 and we continually sold out MSG. A ticket was hard to come by.

During thee Mullin/Berry years I attended many games at MSG where I purchased tickets at the last moment. I do not want to get into a pissing contest but I disagree! A usual crowd was 15k, but a total sellout was not the norm. Now having said that, when GTown, and Syracuse were in town, that was a tough ticket!

 

[Class of 72]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

I take it you don't travel much. Comparing Lexington to NYC is like comparing Paris and Kabul for nightlife options. I doubt That little turd Briscoe decided to sign with Kentucky because every Herb in the county takes their female cousin that they are dating to a Cats game.
As for the 5500 fans that attended on Black Friday they should be commended after being deflated yet again by a staff that had no vision to plan for this season with a marquee signing and instead lost its two best recruits to questionable academic issues. Add to that no buzz for the fans for reloading with talent next year.....which is all Kentucky does....and you get the picture. I feel for the St. John's students that have to trek 15 miles into NYC while Lavin limos home a few blocks south with the very hot Mary.

 

[beast of the east]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

I take it you don't travel much. Comparing Lexington to NYC is like comparing Paris and Kabul for nightlife options. I doubt That little turd Briscoe decided to sign with Kentucky because every Herb in the county takes their female cousin that they are dating to a Cats game.
As for the 5500 fans that attended on Black Friday they should be commended after being deflated yet again by a staff that had no vision to plan for this season with a marquee signing and instead lost its two best recruits to questionable academic issues. Add to that no buzz for the fans for reloading with talent next year.....which is all Kentucky does....and you get the picture. I feel for the St. John's students that have to trek 15 miles into NYC while Lavin limos home a few blocks south with the very hot Mary.

Hardly. I have had clients just outside of Lexington, and also just outside of Louisville. I've been to tiny towns most people have never heard of, and nearly every major city. You think Queens is NYC? You think being on campus in Jamaica is the same as being on Broadway? You think its that easy for a kid with no money and no car to enjoy NYC in his "free time" when you practice 5 days a week October to March, and play 30+ games in between. Our problem, even on Redmen.com, is that for most of our fans, the next major life event will be their own funeral, and who cannot get the mediocrity of our glory days out of our heads. In reality the reason we have any appreciable fan base at all is because of this decrepit crowd who was sold on SJU basketball for life when the postseason was a given. Remove all of us who lived those days, and our fan base is in the hundreds, if not less. Sad

 

[jumbo_peanuts]

I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

I take it you don't travel much. Comparing Lexington to NYC is like comparing Paris and Kabul for nightlife options. I doubt That little turd Briscoe decided to sign with Kentucky because every Herb in the county takes their female cousin that they are dating to a Cats game.
As for the 5500 fans that attended on Black Friday they should be commended after being deflated yet again by a staff that had no vision to plan for this season with a marquee signing and instead lost its two best recruits to questionable academic issues. Add to that no buzz for the fans for reloading with talent next year.....which is all Kentucky does....and you get the picture. I feel for the St. John's students that have to trek 15 miles into NYC while Lavin limos home a few blocks south with the very hot Mary.

Hardly. I have had clients just outside of Lexington, and also just outside of Louisville. I've been to tiny towns most people have never heard of, and nearly every major city. You think Queens is NYC? You think being on campus in Jamaica is the same as being on Broadway? You think its that easy for a kid with no money and no car to enjoy NYC in his "free time" when you practice 5 days a week October to March, and play 30+ games in between. Our problem, even on Redmen.com, is that for most of our fans, the next major life event will be their own funeral, and who cannot get the mediocrity of our glory days out of our heads. In reality the reason we have any appreciable fan base at all is because of this decrepit crowd who was sold on SJU basketball for life when the postseason was a given. Remove all of us who lived those days, and our fan base is in the hundreds, if not less. Sad

no money and no car? what kids are you talking about?

 

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I wonder why as I watch the Kentucky vs. and unranked Providence team in front of a packed Rupp arena sea of blue how we could have thought Briscoe would rather have been on the floor at MSG vs 10th ranked Gonzaga and 5500 fans.

As discussed over and over again on this board, way too many options in this town, as opposed to Lexington where all you have to do is sip bourbon while you watch Kentucky basketball. Only other pastime is watching the ponies at Churchiill Downs! Seriously, even during the Mullin/Berry years we rarely sold out MSG, and frankly that is as good as it is going to get! I have said this before, I wish they would expand CA to accommodate 10,000 backed seats, and play a few high profile games at MSG!

Sorry but I attended SJU from 1981 to 1983 and we continually sold out MSG. A ticket was hard to come by.

But it's not the 80's anymore. There is a lot more to do. Lot more places to spend time and money and a lot more distractions. And ways to watch a game

Bingo.

 

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I wonder why every game we play in MadisonSquare Garden has the feel of a road game?

I wonder why St. John's University...the largest Catholic University in the land...has a student body that barely supports and attends it's basketball team's games?

I wonder why 60% of Chris Obepka's personal fouls are completely tickey tack and every one gets called?

I wonder why Steve Lavin never seems to notice that the Red Storm guards keep getting beat off the dribble, and that we always give up too many lay-ups and commit too many personal fouls as a result?

I wonder why our team continues to bomb away from the perimeter when our outside shooting stats are abysmal?

I wonder why Chris Obepka, who skies above everyone when blocking shots...can't make a lay-up without having it blocked?

I wonder why our coaching staff failed to produce a single recruit with impact significance this year...and is on track to duplicate that feat next year? I wonder why a team that is based out in the most exciting city in the world...the media capitol of the universe no less..a team that calls it's home Madison Square Garden...is routinely out recruited by teams in places like Madison, Wisconsin and Spokane, Washington? It makes no sense.

I wonder why Jim Burr and John Gaffney never seem to get tired of jobbing St. John's?

I wonder why Rasheed Jordan, a very talented kid, continues to play without discipline and out of control...and why our coaching staff has made no progress in raising his on-court I.Q. and decision making?

I wonder why D'Angelo Harrison has a complete green light to shoot the three from anywhere, when his three year stats fail to support his status as an exceptional shooter?

I wonder why Jamal Branch doesn't log more minutes, and why...after displaying that he is the only player who can run this team with some intelligence, doesn't have complete control of our offense?

I wonder why you would ever put Sir Dom on the offensive perimeter, when he is complete dead wood out there?

I wonder why you would be pressuring the perimeter with your guards. when your center, and only big man, is in jeopardy with four fouls?

I wonder why you wouldn't run an offense with the game on the line, rather than to allow your star guards to attempt helter skelter one on two hero moves? I wonder when our coach will finally figure out that this doesn't win games?

I think a lot of it falls on lack of fan support. If we filled the garden like duke,cuse,uconn, the garden powers that be would gI've a wink to refs to at least toss us some home town calls. Why? Because it would boil down to the almighty dollar. Until we bring in lots of money to the garden we will continue to be treated like step children.

You can't be serious

Tell me why we don't get home court calls. We don't even get some obvious calls. I attend most of the games and the refs consistently make calls against us. BTW when Jordan drove to the basket in the zag game at the end, he was slammed in his left arm. But a foul wasn't called only a turnover. Fill the garden with screaming fans and we get the call . A duke player would have got the call for sure. It is a sought of tale of two cities

We don't get home court calls?? Did you see Dom Pointer blatantly tripping Pangos? Did you see the ESPN announcers replaying it in all its embarrassing detail? The fact that Pointer's thuggery didn't even get a technical--even though it was obviously a flagrant foul and Gonzaga is damn lucky Pangos wasn't injured--is outrageous.