HOLY CROSS, Sat., Nov. 25, 7p, FS-2

BrookJersey Redmen said:
Sorry, Monte, Regis academically in a class if its own. Special test and if you go there, every student gets a scholarship and a likely Ivy acceptance.

Regis is also a pipeline school to HC. Xavier is a great school too, like Xaverian in Bklyn, and FP in the Bronx. (And Bklyn Prep when it was still around in Bklyn.) All, except, Xaverian taught by the Jesuits.
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IMO (and that of many others), Regis is the best academic catholic high school in the country. So you'll get no arquement from me on that. Furthermore, Regis students are not just scholars, they are extremely well rounded. Having high grades in elementary school is a must for acceptance(Regis also has its own entrance exam) , but by no means is it the only criteria.

It's fair to compare Xavier to FP, although I'd still give Xavier the slight nod. But Xaverian is nowhere near the same level academically as the other two. I'm not sure that it ever was, although it was definitely better when we were growing up. No disrespect meant to any Xaverian alum on here....or to Chris Mullin.
 
monte said:
IMO (and that of many others), Regis is the best academic catholic high school in the country. So you'll get no arquement from me on that. Furthermore, Regis students are not just scholars, they are extremely well rounded. Having high grades in elementary school is a must for acceptance(Regis also has its own entrance exam) , but by no means is it the only criteria.

It's fair to compare Xavier to FP, although I'd still give Xavier the slight nod. But Xaverian is nowhere near the same level academically as the other two. I'm not sure that it ever was, although it was definitely better when we were growing up. No disrespect meant to any Xaverian alum on here....or to Chris Mullin.
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Chris Mullin (ahem) started HS at Power Menoral for their BB prowess, let's just say, he was more athlete than student (nothing wrong with that), but being from Bklyn, he and the BB coach at Xaverian had a connection so he went there when Power closed its doors.

Xaverian at least back in the 70's was considered the premier Catholic HS in Bklyn (after Jesuit Bklyn Prep closed) and most of the Boroughs. I don't know if its academics have kept up over the years. Back than it was up there.

Agree with your assessment of Regis totally. Beleive me, the really really smart kids in my large Catholic grammar school went to 1. Regis (we had 5 there), 2. Xavier (5) and 3. Xaverian (a 5-8), the rest went to mostly less expensive Diocesan high schools supported by our local parishes. In the very beginning these high schools charged little to no tuition.
 
SJUDave said:
biggest difference is we only had 8 players
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Biggest difference is to a man we sucked vs. Pace and Rick immediately went to 2 practices a day in the aftermath.

If we only had 5 players vs. Pace and 2 fouled late out should still have mopped the floor with them. No disrespect to Pace, but any single sju roster player would be their best player.
 
BrookJersey Redmen said:
Chris Mullin (ahem) started HS at Power Menoral for their BB prowess, let's just say, he was more athlete than student (nothing wrong with that), but being from Bklyn, he and the BB coach at Xaverian had a connection so he went there when Power closed its doors.

Xaverian at least back in the 70's was considered the premier Catholic HS in Bklyn (after Jesuit Bklyn Prep closed) and most of the Boroughs. I don't know if its academics have kept up over the years. Back than it was up there.

Agree with your assessment of Regis totally. Beleive me, the really really smart kids in my large Catholic grammar school went to 1. Regis (we had 5 there), 2. Xavier (5) and 3. Xaverian (a 5-8), the rest went to mostly less expensive Diocesan high schools supported by our local parishes. In the very beginning these high schools charged little to no tuition.
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I'll give you one small example of the difference between Xavier and Xaverian even back then: a very good friend of mine from grammar school applied to Xavier and did not get in. He did get accepted at Xaverian, went for one year, got good grades and reapplied and was accepted to Xavier for our sophomore year. Again, just an example. Xaverian was considered a very good school back then, no doubt about it, but it's no longer considered amongst the more elite catholic high schools in the 5 boroughs.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Biggest difference is to a man we sucked vs. Pace and Rick immediately went to 2 practices a day in the aftermath.

If we only had 5 players vs. Pace and 2 fouled late out should still have mopped the floor with them. No disrespect to Pace, but any single sju roster player would be their best player.
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Going into the Pace game I figured the last 5 guys on our bench would win easily against the Pacesetters (horrible nickname).

We played 9 players vs. Pace not 8.
 
monte said:
I'll give you one small example of the difference between Xavier and Xaverian even back then: a very good friend of mine from grammar school applied to Xavier and did not get in. He did get accepted at Xaverian, went for one year, got good grades and reapplied and was accepted to Xavier for our sophomore year. Again, just an example. Xaverian was considered a very good school back then, no doubt about it, but it's no longer considered amongst the more elite catholic high schools in the 5 boroughs.
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As a Xavier alum from the late 2000s, I can also say when someone got kicked out of Xavier, they would wind up at Xaverian but it never worked the other way around. (It did, of course, happen with Regis ppl coming to Xavier but not vice versa).
 
Larry Wright said:
Doesn’t remind me of Sealy even a little though
Sealy might have been best 15-18 shooter in school history and real good rebounder.
Mullin, Berry, Sealy we’re once in lifetime players for ST John’s
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I think we could also add Mark Jackson to that list too.

Barkley could have been mentioned in those terms too, if he had played 4 years . I think Artest would have been also but , again not a 4 year player .

Berry wasn’t either but , The Truth was College player of the year in 1986 and that gets him into Lifetime Iconic players too .

If we choose to go back a ways , Sonny Dove , Reggie Carter , Tony Jackson are in that Class as well .

George Johnson , Mel Davis close but , not quite .
 
SLYFOXX1968 said:
I think we could also add Mark Jackson to that list too.

Barkley could have been mentioned in those terms too, if he had played 4 years . I think Artest would have been also but , again not a 4 year player .

Berry wasn’t either but , The Truth was College player of the year in 1986 and that gets him into Lifetime Iconic players too .

If we choose to go back a ways , Sonny Dove , Reggie Carter , Tony Jackson are in that Class as well .

George Johnson , Mel Davis close but , not quite .
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John Warren, who was the next Johnnie star after Sonny Dove, and played briefly for the Knicks was an excellent mid range shooter. Over an 84 game 3 year career shot 51% from the floor and 81% from the line.
 
NCJohnnie said:
John Warren, who was the next Johnnie star after Sonny Dove, and played briefly for the Knicks was an excellent mid range shooter. Over an 84 game 3 year career shot 51% from the floor and 81% from the line.
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No quarrel with John Warren but , wouldn’t consider him in the Icon class.

I mean Mullin and Berry were ALL Americans and Players of the year in 85 and 86.

I think Sealy is in that class too. Another All American , 2nd Team I believe . Malik was a deadly shooter from the baseline and not to diminish Billy Schaefer but , Malik had more game . Rebound , Defense , Court Leadership , etc .

Dove, Carter and Tony Jackson are pretty much automatic icons too .

Sonny and Reggie were All Americans . Tony should have been but , back then a lot of East Coast players didn’t get their due .
 
SLYFOXX1968 said:
No quarrel with John Warren but , wouldn’t consider him in the Icon class.

I mean Mullin and Berry were ALL Americans and Players of the year in 85 and 86.

I think Sealy is in that class too. Another All American , 2nd Team I believe . Malik was a deadly shooter from the baseline and not to diminish Billy Schaefer but , Malik had more game . Rebound , Defense , Court Leadership , etc .

Dove, Carter and Tony Jackson are pretty much automatic icons too .

Sonny and Reggie were All Americans . Tony should have been but , back then a lot of East Coast players didn’t get their due .
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I was responding to the post several pages back that was referencing our best mid range (15-18) shooters not who were our greatest players. Bill Schaeffer and Malik Sealy were referenced. As his stats show, Warren was an excellent mid range shooter, no question he was not one of our all time best players. The team he starred on in his senior year finished the season ranked in the top 10. He was also an excellent defensive player.
 
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It was a good Cupcake game Vs Holy Cross . Despite them beating G ‘town , the Crusaders would be a good match up with Pace . The Setters are considering painting their Court “ We beat New York’s team”

But , in the ongoing Qualify of Schools thesis going on , anyone believing the Jesuits don’t give preference to kids from Jesuit High Schools going to Jesuit Colleges is drinking Kool Aid .

And , it doesn’t end there . St Louis Univ Med School , a Jesuit school admitted 43 percent of Students who graduated from its Univ to its Med School . That’s a outrageous number .

ND , not a Jesuit school , takes a minimum of 15 Chaminade HS grads into its freshman class almost every year . That’s a pipeline by any definition . I do believe St John ‘s has stepped up its Recruiting Chaminade kids as well . And , very successfully , I’m told .

But , back to BB .. I was only kidding about Pace .
 
BrookJersey Redmen said:
Chris Mullin (ahem) started HS at Power Menoral for their BB prowess, let's just say, he was more athlete than student (nothing wrong with that), but being from Bklyn, he and the BB coach at Xaverian had a connection so he went there when Power closed its doors.

Xaverian at least back in the 70's was considered the premier Catholic HS in Bklyn (after Jesuit Bklyn Prep closed) and most of the Boroughs. I don't know if its academics have kept up over the years. Back than it was up there.

Agree with your assessment of Regis totally. Beleive me, the really really smart kids in my large Catholic grammar school went to 1. Regis (we had 5 there), 2. Xavier (5) and 3. Xaverian (a 5-8), the rest went to mostly less expensive Diocesan high schools supported by our local parishes. In the very beginning these high schools charged little to no tuition.
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Chris left Power Memorial at least six years prior to its closing (Jayson Williams started at Power and transferred to CTK when Power closed before his Junior year. Interesting Jayson signed his NLI in the early signing period of his senior year before ever starting a varsity game).

Word had it, there was a falling out with Power’s coach and Chris transferred to Xaverian where he wound up teaming up with Roger McCready (Boston College and one year his junior) and Mike O’Reilly (George Washington) where they won the State Federation Tournament.
 
Tommyo5454 said:
I'm not far behind you on that TV history but the amount I pay for cable is obnoxious and too not have a HD option for a national TV network to me is crazy!
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Cut the cord man. You tube TV with sports package that includes Redzone is like $79.99 if spectrum offers a discount (frontier did of $15 per month for year). I just did it and lost the VOIP landline and am saving $175 per month.
 
kranmars said:
Look at you guys with your elitist first world complaints. There are children starving in Africa and you are complaining about HD reception.

Notice, MJMaher is too embarrassed to respond. What does that tell you?

When I was young we had to get up, walk to the TV and change channel by hand. And we had a limited selection with only had six or seven channels to choose something we liked.

Now, get off my lawn…
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And when I was a kid the dial was on the top of the TV so at 4 years old I pulled the TV down on myself and have had a TV war scar ever since.
 
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