Hire Mike Rice

At some point you have to take a risk to get to the next level. So far Mullin and company have built a very good roster without having to take many after the Slice mistake. This might be the one to take.
 
At some point you have to take a risk to get to the next level. So far Mullin and company have built a very good roster without having to take many after the Slice mistake. This might be the one to take.[/quol

Life can evolve in strange ways...what might seem like a disaster can become a blessing...the program is going in a nice direction and might surprise even the most ardent & optimistic of posters...I wonder if "slice" will rue the day he failed to work through whatever the hell was happening behind the scenes...As he stands as an outsider glimpsing at SJU success!
all the best
 
Let's play hypothetical. Say SJU/CM brings in Rice as some sort of TBD assistant role, which is OK. Let's also say CM is here for 7 or 10 years, just enough time to get the program back on top, declare victory, moves on, and turn the program over to a trusted assistant. That won't be Mitch or Matt, so it will be between St. Jean and Rice. Do you want Rice as the HC of SJU? I don't. Hopefully, IF Rice were to be hired here, he stays 3-4 years and gets a job offer someplace else after keeping his nose clean here. All hypothetical.
 
Let's play hypothetical. Say SJU/CM brings in Rice as some sort of TBD assistant role, which is OK. Let's also say CM is here for 7 or 10 years, just enough time to get the program back on top, declare victory, moves on, and turn the program over to a trusted assistant. That won't be Mitch or Matt, so it will be between St. Jean and Rice. Do you want Rice as the HC of SJU? I don't. Hopefully, IF Rice were to be hired here, he stays 3-4 years and gets a job offer someplace else after keeping his nose clean here. All hypothetical.

Pump the brakes there... let's just get to the NCAA tournament first...
 
Let's play hypothetical. Say SJU/CM brings in Rice as some sort of TBD assistant role, which is OK. Let's also say CM is here for 7 or 10 years, just enough time to get the program back on top, declare victory, moves on, and turn the program over to a trusted assistant. That won't be Mitch or Matt, so it will be between St. Jean and Rice. Do you want Rice as the HC of SJU? I don't. Hopefully, IF Rice were to be hired here, he stays 3-4 years and gets a job offer someplace else after keeping his nose clean here. All hypothetical.

with Gene Hackman as Coach Rice
Barbara Hershy as Coaster
Dennis "Shooter" Hopper as Fun
and introducing Amar Alibegovic Jr. as "Jimmy"

this is all hypothetical too especially the timeline. Probably Matt Damon will end up playing Coach Rice.
 
This will be a grave mistake for the program.

A grave mistake was hiring a coach with a loosing record at his alma mater.
A grave mistake was hiring a psychopath who declared from day 1 that his dream job was a big state school.
A grave mistake was hiring a coach whose agent sucked us in to hiring him and when he insisted on bringing his fat lazy son along should have been given the door.
A grave mistake was hiring a life time assistant with a loosing record at his Division 3 alma mater.
Hiring an experienced Division 1 head coach who had a winning record at 1 program and a loosing record at another local school that has never had a winning record, who is knowledgeable, passionate, fiery, stresses defence , recruited well and has a slew of great high school players playing for him, as a third assistant or other position, is anything but a grave mistake IMHO.
 
This will be a grave mistake for the program.

Unless they give him a contract like Slice and it falls apart as quickly as Slice, I think calling it a grave mistake is a tad bit dramatic.
 
Let's play hypothetical. Say SJU/CM brings in Rice as some sort of TBD assistant role, which is OK. Let's also say CM is here for 7 or 10 years, just enough time to get the program back on top, declare victory, moves on, and turn the program over to a trusted assistant. That won't be Mitch or Matt, so it will be between St. Jean and Rice. Do you want Rice as the HC of SJU? I don't. Hopefully, IF Rice were to be hired here, he stays 3-4 years and gets a job offer someplace else after keeping his nose clean here. All hypothetical.

I personally think we get CM for five more and then he's back to Northern California. Is St. Jean ready by then? Probably not, since I don't think he'll be here either. If a reformed Rice turned out to be the best option, I'm all for it.
 
So do people think he is going to come in and immediately return to the Mike Rice of Rutgers. Disrespect coach Mullin, abuse the kids, destroy everything he worked hard to repair. Blow up his chance of doing what he loves best, coaching. I think he will be a very good hire. A lot of his old players at Rutgers stand by him. I do not feel as the media will kill the hire, rather support it. . I know I will
 
So do people think he is going to come in and immediately return to the Mike Rice of Rutgers. Disrespect coach Mullin, abuse the kids, destroy everything he worked hard to repair. Blow up his chance of doing what he loves best, coaching. I think he will be a very good hire. A lot of his old players at Rutgers stand by him. I do not feel as the media will kill the hire, rather support it. . I know I will
Good post. Additionally although I do not endorse his previous coaching methods let's remember young men the same age or younger than his players were join the military service every day and I dare said boot camp is probably a tad tougher than a Mike Rice practice.
 
The Slice debacle set SJUBB back a lot economically. Because of that, we are limited w who we can hire. W Rice you will get a lot of bang for your buck. He brings things to the table that our other coaches don't. He isn't an imbecile and knows if he misbehaves his career is over , as opposed to the opposite scenario, where he could be a college head coach again if he plays his cards right.
 
This will be a grave mistake for the program.

A grave mistake was hiring a coach with a loosing record at his alma mater.
A grave mistake was hiring a psychopath who declared from day 1 that his dream job was a big state school.
A grave mistake was hiring a coach whose agent sucked us in to hiring him and when he insisted on bringing his fat lazy son along should have been given the door.
A grave mistake was hiring a life time assistant with a loosing record at his Division 3 alma mater.
Hiring an experienced Division 1 head coach who had a winning record at 1 program and a loosing record at another local school that has never had a winning record, who is knowledgeable, passionate, fiery, stresses defence , recruited well and has a slew of great high school players playing for him, as a third assistant or other position, is anything but a grave mistake IMHO.
And who sought counseling for a problem. It would be one thing to hire the guy straight out of Rutgers. But, the guy got help. Big difference.
 
I've changed my attitude about the possibility of hiring Rice. Initially, I had visions of those videos that all of us saw and said I would never want to see him working at St John's. However, to Rice's credit, he has taken measures to rehabilitate himself and has apparently done well working with high school kids in the past year or so. He is very passionate about basketball, has a lot of coaching experience and has good technical knowledge of the game, which would be beneficial to our staff.

I am sure that Rice knows that, if he is fortunate enough to get another opportunity to work at the college level, he must embrace it and conduct himself in an appropriate manner. Another screw up would likely signify the end of his coaching career.

I really think that Rice "knows the deal", would conduct himself appropriately and would bring passion, energy and knowledge to our staff and program. I hope that Coach Mullin gives him an opportunity to work at St John's in some capacity.
 
The Slice debacle set SJUBB back a lot economically. Because of that, we are limited w who we can hire. W Rice you will get a lot of bang for your buck. He brings things to the table that our other coaches don't. He isn't an imbicele and knows if he misbehaves his career is over , as opposed to the opposite scenario, where he could be a college head coach again if he plays his cards right.
+1
 
So do people think he is going to come in and immediately return to the Mike Rice of Rutgers. Disrespect coach Mullin, abuse the kids, destroy everything he worked hard to repair. Blow up his chance of doing what he loves best, coaching. I think he will be a very good hire. A lot of his old players at Rutgers stand by him. I do not feel as the media will kill the hire, rather support it. . I know I will
Good post. Additionally although I do not endorse his previous coaching methods let's remember young men the same age or younger than his players were join the military service every day and I dare said boot camp is probably a tad tougher than a Mike Rice practice.

That's an understatement!
I left basic training thinking my name was actually muthafckr and that I was a lady. ;)
In all seriousness, the Franciscan nuns that abused me for 8 years were a tad tougher than Mike Rice. My knuckles stayed red until my sophomore year of high school. My knees never recovered from kneeling facing the wall for punishment for talking during class. To this day I have panic attacks if I see a woman who covers herself from head to toe.

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This will be a grave mistake for the program.

Unless they give him a contract like Slice and it falls apart as quickly as Slice, I think calling it a grave mistake is a tad bit dramatic.

I am for giving him a chance.But lets look back and stop putting all the blame on slice I believe there is more to this story and CM MUST TAKE SOME OF THE BLAME
 
This will be a grave mistake for the program.

Unless they give him a contract like Slice and it falls apart as quickly as Slice, I think calling it a grave mistake is a tad bit dramatic.

I am for giving him a chance.But lets look back and stop putting all the blame on slice I believe there is more to this story and CM MUST TAKE SOME OF THE BLAME

Not sure where I blamed Slice for anything in my post. . .
 
This will be a grave mistake for the program.

Unless they give him a contract like Slice and it falls apart as quickly as Slice, I think calling it a grave mistake is a tad bit dramatic.

I am for giving him a chance.But lets look back and stop putting all the blame on slice I believe there is more to this story and CM MUST TAKE SOME OF THE BLAME

Not sure where I blamed Slice for anything in my post. . .

Forgive me i did mean you just seems that many posters tend to speak negative about him when we truly do not know what cause the riff btw friends or what or if promises
where broken.The man left a secure good job to help his buddy
 
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