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[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=283406][quote="Paultzman" post=283405]Femi I was told did his homework and looked at a lot of video of our games. He came away with impression that our offense precluded him from being able to adequately show offensive skills. We may disagree, but give him credit for preparing.

On another note, the African big man mentioned here a while ago has apparently vaporized. I sense they very well may proceed without an additional interior player. Recruiting being so fluid, that could change of course.[/quote] Owens argued the same thing. There must be something preventing the bigs from committing to us and it is concerning. A competent big would get plenty of minutes here. 2nd year in a row whiffed on grad big.[/quote]

That didn't stop Keita from coming. Look, like it or not, Chris runs a wide-open offense which features quick players. Owens was never, and will never, be an "inside" threat on offense, he left because there are too many other guys here who can shoot the J and he didn't get enough touches to showcase his abilities. He and his father fancy him as some NBA 6'11" guy shooting the 3 ball, good luck with that.

Once people stop trying to pigeon-hole bigs into their concept of what the team should look like and accept the reality that it's not Mullin's style of offense the better.

I'm not saying we couldn't use another big for depth, but it's ridiculous how every transfer, juco or unsigned player over 6'8" is anointed by this board as the answer to our "need" for a big and lamented when we don't recruit him.
 
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[quote="Section9" post=283409][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=283406][quote="Paultzman" post=283405]Femi I was told did his homework and looked at a lot of video of our games. He came away with impression that our offense precluded him from being able to adequately show offensive skills. We may disagree, but give him credit for preparing.

On another note, the African big man mentioned here a while ago has apparently vaporized. I sense they very well may proceed without an additional interior player. Recruiting being so fluid, that could change of course.[/quote] Owens argued the same thing. There must be something preventing the bigs from committing to us and it is concerning. A competent big would get plenty of minutes here. 2nd year in a row whiffed on grad big.[/quote]

That didn't stop Keita from coming. Look, like it or not, Chris runs a wide-open offense which features quick players. Owens was never, and will never, be an "inside" threat on offense, he left because there are too many other guys here who can shoot the J and he didn't get enough touches to showcase his abilities. He and his father fancy him as some NBA 6'11" guy shooting the 3 ball, good luck with that.

Once people stop trying to pigeon-hole bigs into their concept of what the team should look like and accept the reality that it's not Mullin's style of offense the better.

I'm not saying we couldn't use another big for depth, but it's ridiculous how every transfer, juco or unsigned player over 6'8" is anointed by this board as the answer to our "need" for a big and lamented when we don't recruit him.[/quot

What he said.
 
You make good points, but don't these concepts like "that's not how we play", "it doesn't fit our style", "that's not how Mullin's offense works", etc etc carry a lot more weight when they've been proven to be successful?

We got creamed on the boards last year and had a losing record. I think you could make a pretty good case that those two things are related.
 
[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=283413]You make good points, but don't these concepts like "that's not how we play", "it doesn't fit our style", "that's not how Mullin's offense works", etc etc carry a lot more weight when they've been proven to be successful?

We got creamed on the boards last year and had a losing record. I think you could make a pretty good case that those two things are related.[/quote]

So fire Mullin.
 
[quote="redmanwest" post=283377]Sorry, I can see losing a kid to Georgetown, but not to any of those other schools. That's scary and disheartening. I know we were kind of not in it at the end, but boy that stinks.[/quote]

The kid didn't want to come here. He felt were too guard focused. We didn't lose him in that respect. We lost any chance of him in another respect
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=283405]Femi I was told did his homework and looked at a lot of video of our games. He came away with impression that our offense precluded him from being able to adequately show offensive skills. We may disagree, but give him credit for preparing.

On another note, the African big man mentioned here a while ago has apparently vaporized. I sense they very well may proceed without an additional interior player. Recruiting being so fluid, that could change of course.[/quote]

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[quote="Section9" post=283414][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=283413]You make good points, but don't these concepts like "that's not how we play", "it doesn't fit our style", "that's not how Mullin's offense works", etc etc carry a lot more weight when they've been proven to be successful?

We got creamed on the boards last year and had a losing record. I think you could make a pretty good case that those two things are related.[/quote]

So fire Mullin.[/quote]

If no NCAA or NIT Tournaments (thought I think nit in year 4 isn't satisfying), then in the off-season Mullin isn't out there recruiting, if no big man recruits, if no staff changers. Yeah, alot of ifs, but if all become reality on 4/30/2019.
I'll be on here wanting Chris to be fired.

Yeah, he was our greatest bball player ever, and thank you for your great moments you provided now.
But please don't act like you can come back 35yrs later, get 2million per year, and not recruit at all and make no coaching changes at all, when everyone else you need and experience coach.

Know your job description as a coach Chris, it may help you.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=283437][quote="Section9" post=283414][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=283413]You make good points, but don't these concepts like "that's not how we play", "it doesn't fit our style", "that's not how Mullin's offense works", etc etc carry a lot more weight when they've been proven to be successful?

We got creamed on the boards last year and had a losing record. I think you could make a pretty good case that those two things are related.[/quote]

So fire Mullin.[/quote]

If no NCAA or NIT Tournaments (thought I think nit in year 4 isn't satisfying), then in the off-season Mullin isn't out there recruiting, if no big man recruits, if no staff changers. Yeah, alot of ifs, but if all become reality on 4/30/2019.
I'll be on here wanting Chris to be fired.

Yeah, he was our greatest bball player ever, and thank you for your great moments you provided now.
But please don't act like you can come back 35yrs later, get 2million per year, and not recruit at all and make no coaching changes at all, when everyone else you need and experience coach.

Know your job description as a coach Chris, it may help you.[/quote]

Thanks, dad.
 
[quote="SJ_NYC" post=283439][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=283437][quote="Section9" post=283414][quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=283413]You make good points, but don't these concepts like "that's not how we play", "it doesn't fit our style", "that's not how Mullin's offense works", etc etc carry a lot more weight when they've been proven to be successful?

We got creamed on the boards last year and had a losing record. I think you could make a pretty good case that those two things are related.[/quote]

So fire Mullin.[/quote]

If no NCAA or NIT Tournaments (thought I think nit in year 4 isn't satisfying), then in the off-season Mullin isn't out there recruiting, if no big man recruits, if no staff changers. Yeah, alot of ifs, but if all become reality on 4/30/2019.
I'll be on here wanting Chris to be fired.

Yeah, he was our greatest bball player ever, and thank you for your great moments you provided now.
But please don't act like you can come back 35yrs later, get 2million per year, and not recruit at all and make no coaching changes at all, when everyone else you need and experience coach.

Know your job description as a coach Chris, it may help you.[/quote]

Thanks, dad.[/quote]

Welcome, Sonny
 
Did Femi want to play SF here?

If that's the case, I wouldn't trade LJF for him. But it leaves us out in the cold, because any grad transfer Femi's size may want to be a SF in his last year of college, but we would need a Femi-size kid (with Femi talent) to be our starting center.
 
A lot of conjecture on why we didn't land Femi, including our style of play and not being able to offer him a chance to start. I do think these are two legitimate impediments to selling any big to come here.

That said, you have to wonder. Are we so unique that, unlike countless other programs, we simply cannot secure two serviceable big men? I would say probably not, which makes our two-year long problem a red flag.
 
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[quote="Windy City Johnny Fan" post=283415]Never said that - I really like Chris. I even tried to be complimentary of your points, just debating - no need to be cranky.[/quote]

You'll know when I'm cranky, just tired of the same old "oooh there's a big guy, why aren't we recruiting him."
 
[quote="L J S A" post=283453]Did Femi want to play SF here?

If that's the case, I wouldn't trade LJF for him. But it leaves us out in the cold, because any grad transfer Femi's size may want to be a SF in his last year of college, but we would need a Femi-size kid (with Femi talent) to be our starting center.[/quote]

I tend to doubt that. Kid is a sub 30% 3PG shooter with 18 made in his career, but last year shot almost 60% inside the arc. Averaged 7.7 rbs. The message is that bigs want to see that there is some amount of inside out structure to the offense but STJ is almost exclusively outside in and the staff can apparently not convince prospects that this was due to personnel and not due to coaching staffs preference.
 
Sense staff now feels the talent is there, without adding an additional interior player, to have a successful season. Apparently they will play a lot of small ball this year and roll dice that the few bigs they have will stay healthy. “Mystery” solved perhaps? :)
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=283488]Sense staff now feels the talent is there, without adding an additional interior player, to have a successful season. Apparently they will play a lot of small ball this year and roll dice that the few bigs they have will stay healthy. “Mystery” solved perhaps? :)[/quote]
guess they think rolling the dice is better than not rolling the dice. Why roll the dice if you don't have to or do they have to.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=283490][quote="Paultzman" post=283488]Sense staff now feels the talent is there, without adding an additional interior player, to have a successful season. Apparently they will play a lot of small ball this year and roll dice that the few bigs they have will stay healthy. “Mystery” solved perhaps? :)[/quote]
guess they think rolling the dice is better than not rolling the dice. Why roll the dice if you don't have to or do they have to.[/quote]

Great question Bama. Guessing that Staff has been unable to add "an additional interior player" for a sundry of reasons from our guard-oriented play, to a non-starting role, to the rap about the Staff's inability to 'develop' big guys.
So, faced with that, they've chosen to "roll the dice".
It helps that our roster has some great guards and potential lethal scorers as well as great athletes--but it boils down to accepting the 'reality' of the situation.
Let's go Johnnies.
 
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Paultzman wrote: Apparently they will play a lot of small ball this year and roll dice that the few bigs they have will stay healthy

I guess it is what it is. Let's pray Ponds returns and the roll of the injury dice turns out better this year than last year.
 
[quote="austour" post=283472][quote="L J S A" post=283453]Did Femi want to play SF here?

If that's the case, I wouldn't trade LJF for him. But it leaves us out in the cold, because any grad transfer Femi's size may want to be a SF in his last year of college, but we would need a Femi-size kid (with Femi talent) to be our starting center.[/quote]

I tend to doubt that. Kid is a sub 30% 3PG shooter with 18 made in his career, but last year shot almost 60% inside the arc. Averaged 7.7 rbs. The message is that bigs want to see that there is some amount of inside out structure to the offense but STJ is almost exclusively outside in and the staff can apparently not convince prospects that this was due to personnel and not due to coaching staffs preference.[/quote]

It's become rather easy to recruit against Mullin for Bigs. The ones he recruited transferred and opposing coaches point to a guard oriented offense. You hit the proverbial nail on the head.
 
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