Guys on Matt’s Radar

I know we are disappointed, but can you really be surprised? What do we have to sell these kids on besides a dream? I'm sure most grad transfers want to go to a place where they can play alot and win. Winning next year is no sure thing, especially with Ponds status up in the air.
 
Room112,

Agree staff doesn't have an easy job getting meaningful grad recruit at this stage given recent record. My prior post was early morning (admittedly somewhat feeble) attempt at a little humor to start the day.
 
This is why having a full staff or at least more than 1 guy to recruit is so important. It is also important to recruit high school and AAU programs on a consistent basis in order to build relationships. This grad transfer stuff is so strange and following someone on twitter just isn't recruiting to me . Staff did this last year and we were left short handed .
 
One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding a program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, a sense of urgency should be front and center.

Hopefully staff will come through, but it is natural to be concerned after losing a big this week. Big opportunity in BE is out there with the League losing a lot of players. To take advantage of that, hopefully we have the proper complement of players.

On positive note, I share Happy’s opinion on Kaita.
 
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[quote="R S O" post=280611]Matt A. no longer follows Femi on twitter. Guessing the ship has sailed on that one......[/quote] carajo !!!!
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=280629]I guess we just have to be patient and see what gets pulled out of the hat.[/quote]

Or, pull a primate outta his ass, per WASJU.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=280666][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.[/quote]

I just don't understand this staff at all. Are Chris and Mitch that arrogant to think that kids will just want to come here based on their Hall of Fame status? Do they really care about winning? We are literally one good grad transfer away from a very good team and these guys can't do a little work on the recruiting trail? I don't blame Matt at all. It's not practical to put everything on him recruiting wise. I will say it again, If these guys don't really want to put in the time and effort needed and perform ALL the duties and responsibilities that come along with running a program then just leave.
 
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[quote="R S O" post=280611]Matt A. no longer follows Femi on twitter. Guessing the ship has sailed on that one......[/quote] Paultzman said it best. Being a fan of this team is like being a worker w a jack hammer on the LIE in August. Loosing Owens and Femi is a killer.
 
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[quote="Mean Gene" post=280667][quote="MJDinkins" post=280666][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.[/quote]

I just don't understand this staff at all. Are Chris and Mitch that arrogant to think that kids will just want to come here based on their Hall of Fame status? Do they really care about winning? We are literally one good grad transfer away from a very good team and these guys can't do a little work on the recruiting trail? I don't blame Matt at all. It's not practical to put everything on him recruiting wise. I will say it again, If these guys don't really want to put in the time and effort needed and perform ALL the duties and responsibilities that come along with running a program then just leave.[/quote]

I do believe he didn't know what the job entailed as a whole and the work that needed to be put in to bring the program back. Being that the program was slightly down, it was going to take a bit more initiative to get things moving in the necessary direction.

No stones should be left unturned and all 4 coaches or at the least three should have been out busting their tails trying to get this thing rectified.

There could be some form of subconscious arrogance from Mullin and Richmond. They may feel their credentials should be enough to warrant kids to want to play for St. John's. Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. Frankly, those two should be the ones out there grinding more than the other coaches, as they're the faces of the program (IMO), and could use their respective basketball careers to lure kids to the basketball program.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.

Hopefully staff will come through, but it is natural to be concerned after losing a big this week. Big opportunity in BE is out there with the League losing a lot of players. To take advantage of that, hopefully we have the proper complement of players.

On positive note, I share Happy’s opinion on Kaita.[/quote]

Mullin not being here for a critical recruiting visit is mind blowing. He needs to respond to the AD and President about that. I couldn't image a boss skipping out on a big client meeting without a good reason.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=280671][quote="Mean Gene" post=280667][quote="MJDinkins" post=280666][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.[/quote]

I just don't understand this staff at all. Are Chris and Mitch that arrogant to think that kids will just want to come here based on their Hall of Fame status? Do they really care about winning? We are literally one good grad transfer away from a very good team and these guys can't do a little work on the recruiting trail? I don't blame Matt at all. It's not practical to put everything on him recruiting wise. I will say it again, If these guys don't really want to put in the time and effort needed and perform ALL the duties and responsibilities that come along with running a program then just leave.[/quote]

I do believe he didn't know what the job entailed as a whole and the work that needed to be put in to bring the program back. Being that the program was slightly down, it was going to take a bit more initiative to get things moving in the necessary direction.

No stones should be left unturned and all 4 coaches or at the least three should have been out busting their tails trying to get this thing rectified.

There could be some form of subconscious arrogance from Mullin and Richmond. They may feel their credentials should be enough to warrant kids to want to play for St. John's. Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. Frankly, those two should be the ones out there grinding more than the other coaches, as they're the faces of the program (IMO), and could use their respective basketball careers to lure kids to the basketball program.[/quote]

Certainly appears Mullin may have miss calculated what the grind would be like, and doesn't appear willing to put the time in. From someone as accomplished and well off as he is, maybe essentially begging kids to come here is below him. Who knows. Imagine if we had a legit administration to hold him accountable. I'm not turning on Mullin, just observing what I see from my angle.
 
[quote="Room112" post=280679][quote="MJDinkins" post=280671][quote="Mean Gene" post=280667][quote="MJDinkins" post=280666][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.[/quote]

I just don't understand this staff at all. Are Chris and Mitch that arrogant to think that kids will just want to come here based on their Hall of Fame status? Do they really care about winning? We are literally one good grad transfer away from a very good team and these guys can't do a little work on the recruiting trail? I don't blame Matt at all. It's not practical to put everything on him recruiting wise. I will say it again, If these guys don't really want to put in the time and effort needed and perform ALL the duties and responsibilities that come along with running a program then just leave.[/quote]

I do believe he didn't know what the job entailed as a whole and the work that needed to be put in to bring the program back. Being that the program was slightly down, it was going to take a bit more initiative to get things moving in the necessary direction.

No stones should be left unturned and all 4 coaches or at the least three should have been out busting their tails trying to get this thing rectified.

There could be some form of subconscious arrogance from Mullin and Richmond. They may feel their credentials should be enough to warrant kids to want to play for St. John's. Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. Frankly, those two should be the ones out there grinding more than the other coaches, as they're the faces of the program (IMO), and could use their respective basketball careers to lure kids to the basketball program.[/quote]

Certainly appears Mullin may have miss calculated what the grind would be like, and doesn't appear willing to put the time in. From someone as accomplished and well off as he is, maybe essentially begging kids to come here is below him. Who knows. Imagine if we had a legit administration to hold him accountable. I'm not turning on Mullin, just observing what I see from my angle.[/quote]If Mullin miscalculated the grind, Why not get another assistant to take some of the load off?
 
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[quote="gman" post=280674][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.

Hopefully staff will come through, but it is natural to be concerned after losing a big this week. Big opportunity in BE is out there with the League losing a lot of players. To take advantage of that, hopefully we have the proper complement of players.

On positive note, I share Happy’s opinion on Kaita.[/quote]

Mullin not being here for a critical recruiting visit is mind blowing. He needs to respond to the AD and President about that. I couldn't image a boss skipping out on a big client meeting without a good reason.[/quote]

Mullin doesn't report to anyone. Never did.
 
For clarification, I did hear Matt met with Femi solo, but am not totally sure on that. Apologies for prematurely noting that. It was better left unsaid.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=280671][quote="Mean Gene" post=280667][quote="MJDinkins" post=280666][quote="Paultzman" post=280658]One recruiter approach in face of rebuilding s program, as Happy noted, is astounding to me. For a team desperately in need of a grad transfer big, I was disappointed Chris was not present at Femi’s unofficial visit Sunday. Perhaps there was a reason and we still may have fanned on him, but a sense of urgency should be front and center.[/quote]

Maybe, he was at a city gym taking in a HS kid workout. He has keys to gymnasiums, right? Or, he could've possibly been trying to call a custodial employee to get in, but wasn't able to reach him.[/quote]

I just don't understand this staff at all. Are Chris and Mitch that arrogant to think that kids will just want to come here based on their Hall of Fame status? Do they really care about winning? We are literally one good grad transfer away from a very good team and these guys can't do a little work on the recruiting trail? I don't blame Matt at all. It's not practical to put everything on him recruiting wise. I will say it again, If these guys don't really want to put in the time and effort needed and perform ALL the duties and responsibilities that come along with running a program then just leave.[/quote]

I do believe he didn't know what the job entailed as a whole and the work that needed to be put in to bring the program back. Being that the program was slightly down, it was going to take a bit more initiative to get things moving in the necessary direction.

No stones should be left unturned and all 4 coaches or at the least three should have been out busting their tails trying to get this thing rectified.

There could be some form of subconscious arrogance from Mullin and Richmond. They may feel their credentials should be enough to warrant kids to want to play for St. John's. Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. Frankly, those two should be the ones out there grinding more than the other coaches, as they're the faces of the program (IMO), and could use their respective basketball careers to lure kids to the basketball program.[/quote]

This is really well said MJD. I obviously have no idea what Mullin's thinking was or is or how hard he is or isn't working. But I think you almost always have a concern with a former great player, any sport, that post-playing career goes on to be a pro or college coach, that they might not have a complete understanding of how much goes into the job, or the total sense of urgency to succeed, vs. a coach whose career is on the line with the job. The sleep on the couch in the office 4 nights in a row, roundtrip Dallas same day just to see one kid play, around the clock type stuff that is not required or determinative, but is often associated with great coaches.

That's not to say that a marginal player or non-player has a greater chance of having these qualities or succeeding as a coach. But this profile is more frequently involved in coaching as a career, as opposed to an elective, which can at a minimum motivate the sense of urgency.

In any event the key point is that no matter who you are or what your background being a high-major college hoops coach is a challenging, near 24/7/365 grind as there's almost always someone trying to outwork you. There are very few HCs who can take their foot off the gas if they wanted, because the infrastructure is in place for their program to run downhill. But most of them probably don't anyway, which is likely a big part of why their program is in the place it is in the first place. They want to win the Natty every year.

SJU is probably a harder job than many of those, not only a don't take your foot off the gas job, but a go way above and beyond job in order to really build a sustainable winning program. That said, with the right staff and approach - and at the money apparently spent the right staff should be able to be secured if this isn't it - I am at a loss why this program couldn't experience the moderate success (even though it would be major improvement for SJU) that a Marquette or a Providence have the last 5-10 years. I don't think it's quite as complex as SJU has made it seem for some time now.
 
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