G'Town game

I hate Georgetown. St. John's needs to look in mirror and remember this game. They killed them on court and then continued to push them around while the refs let it happen.



Those two technicals were not our fault but reminded me of the Poppa Thompson's old teams. Looked like the old Hoya dirt bags.

Rysheed looked like he was ready to start going at Starks there. Give Orlando credit for getting in between.

I think the refs were ready to T up Obekpa for the second one, but good job by them going to the replay, and seeing that Chris did nothing wrong. He showed great restraint, IMO.
 
I hate Georgetown. St. John's needs to look in mirror and remember this game. They killed them on court and then continued to push them around while the refs let it happen.



Those two technicals were not our fault but reminded me of the Poppa Thompson's old teams. Looked like the old Hoya dirt bags.

We should recognize, however, that it was one of our chippy players shooting his mouth off about GT to press before game. If you want to get cocky win some games first.
 
I hate Georgetown. St. John's needs to look in mirror and remember this game. They killed them on court and then continued to push them around while the refs let it happen.



Those two technicals were not our fault but reminded me of the Poppa Thompson's old teams. Looked like the old Hoya dirt bags.

yes they did, again I have to say it should have been st johns pressing.
 
I hate Georgetown. St. John's needs to look in mirror and remember this game. They killed them on court and then continued to push them around while the refs let it happen.



Those two technicals were not our fault but reminded me of the Poppa Thompson's old teams. Looked like the old Hoya dirt bags.

Rysheed looked like he was ready to start going at Starks there. Give Orlando credit for getting in between.

I think the refs were ready to T up Obekpa for the second one, but good job by them going to the replay, and seeing that Chris did nothing wrong. He showed great restraint, IMO.

Rysheed was great, I loved the fire in his eyes. If only the coach had so much fire. When you play a team like the Georgetown dirt bags you need to smack them down at the start. You push that bully down. If they have to foul, make it count and make it hurt. That is the problem with this team, it has been too soft. Too many mister nice guys.
 
I am still amazed by the starting lineup dynamic. Like someone who stares at the scene of a bad accident
I am simply unable to lose my mental vision of that scene. Now I really want to hear him explain what he
was doing? Can there really be a rational explanation for such an insane decision/

The announcers thought Lavin was trying to motivate his starters on the bench. Yeh, real motivation. You saw how well that worked. Lavin, try motivating your fans and leave.
 
I am still amazed by the starting lineup dynamic. Like someone who stares at the scene of a bad accident
I am simply unable to lose my mental vision of that scene. Now I really want to hear him explain what he
was doing? Can there really be a rational explanation for such an insane decision/

The announcers thought Lavin was trying to motivate his starters on the bench. Yeh, real motivation. You saw how well that worked. Lavin, try motivating your fans and leave.

I'm sure Val Ackerman and Fox are impressed! As in "What's going on at our media linchpin in NYC"? Lol
 
I am still amazed by the starting lineup dynamic. Like someone who stares at the scene of a bad accident
I am simply unable to lose my mental vision of that scene. Now I really want to hear him explain what he
was doing? Can there really be a rational explanation for such an insane decision/

The announcers thought Lavin was trying to motivate his starters on the bench. Yeh, real motivation. You saw how well that worked. Lavin, try motivating your fans and leave.

I'm sure Val Ackerman and Fox are impressed! As in "What's going on at our media linchpin in NYC"? Lol

Maybe one of the problems we have is that we have no nyc kids. Kids who are tough and know what it is to rumble in the playgrounds. Jordan is the closest we have as he comes from Philly and they can be tough down there. But other than him we don't have nyc. We had Harkless but he left after one year. I think he left one or two years too soon but he left. So who do we have from NY, who do we have to stop bullies like this GT team> ? No one. They play the video about nyc before the games but we aint got anyone from nyc. When they play that video I laugh because these kids are not nyc bred. They are not pedigree and it shows in games like today. Time to get back to our roots. These out of town kids can only serve to compliment a ny team.
 
Being fair, maybe Lavin meant by February your health will be in danger if you still root for Johnnies, rather than being a "dangerous" team. Told he is very close to a SoHo cardiologist. Hmm
 
If nothing else watching this team and how they respond over the next 2-3 weeks will be interesting.

I like Lavin and think he is good for the school, but this game is on him. Losing is one thing but no effort and poor execution is another and not acceptable. Under no circumstances is this type of effort and result acceptable. And, if Lavin is not publicly stating that then he is wrong.
 
Only thing worse than being a St Johns fan today is being a Kansas City Chief's fan
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/colleges/post/_/id/6458/what-rivalry-hoyas-stomp-st-johns-again


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The St. John’s-Georgetown rivalry died Saturday, at the age of 100 (games) and 105 (years).

These two basketball programs remain in the same conference. But they’re not in the same league.

The final blow was Georgetown’s 77-60 victory at the Verizon Center -- a rout far worse than the final score indicates.

Perfectly put.
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/colleges/post/_/id/6458/what-rivalry-hoyas-stomp-st-johns-again


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The St. John’s-Georgetown rivalry died Saturday, at the age of 100 (games) and 105 (years).

These two basketball programs remain in the same conference. But they’re not in the same league.

The final blow was Georgetown’s 77-60 victory at the Verizon Center -- a rout far worse than the final score indicates.

Yes and when Barry Goldwater lost to Johnson in 1964, the Washington papers said the Republican party was dead but they went on to win the next two presidential elections and (btw I am a democrat) you cant say the party is dead no matter what you think about them, then or now. If these players wake up, we beat the bullies from GT when they come to NY
 
I had said yesterday that "We will know tomorrow if this team (a) is prepared with a game plan to stop the Hoya guards, (b) run past Smith, the slowest center in the NCAA and (c) put together a lineup that will position us for a win. (C) is highly doubtful given Lavin's propensity for not knowing his team's strengths and weaknesses and head scratching substitution patterns."

Well, we certainly did not need to worry about Smith.  You see, the Wizard of Lavinwood totally threw off the Hoya center and coaching staff by starting walk-on Khadim Ndiaye, a 6'6" practice player to play him head to head and in his 7 minutes he totally demoralized Smith who went on to score just 5 points.
As for the Hoya guards the wizard not only lacked a game plan but the invisible defense by the hapless Harrison and supporting misfits allowed Smith-Rivera a career game while Starks just needed to play his game to totally embarrass Jordan, Branch, Greene and 3 other Johnnies who looked confused and defeated after just 8 minutes of the first half.
As for item (C) above Lavin did not disappoint!  The starting lineup was reminiscent of Jarhead in his final days as coach where he was sending everyone an "I no longer give a Fk" message.  As Lavin did last year, when he benched Harrison, he has started the dismantling of this year's team by starting walk-ons, benching his "stars" and using 13 players like the lab rats of a mad scientist to embarrass them and St. John's University on national television on a cold Saturday afternoon.
The players themselves indicated they came unprepared and unmotivated.
The mantra by some apologists that Lavin is a great recruiter has been slowly dispelled by unqualified players, transfers, non-existent player development, outright lies about players talents and the total disinterest by most major recruits.  Forget this year as the great recruiter struck out with a dozen offers.
Some are questioning Lavin's motives for the crazy lineups, including today's public flogging and benching of his "great recruits".  Well, after some discussions today with a couple of big time followers of the program, it appears the wizard is no fool at all!  The conclusion is that he has lost interest in the program and has even called off the recruiting push that Tony Chiles started with a few players this year to sabotage the program.  Why??
He has little interest in his 5th year and departing voluntarily would cost him a fat one year's guaranteed salary.  This crazy ass hypnotizing was done over a few bottles of wine so it could be the liquor talking but one friend thinks the players have gotten wind of the wizard's boredom and have translated it into inattentive and unfocused practices and resentment.  The players obviously will not get paid as handsomely as their coach if they give up but a losing attitude is like a cancer when it comes from the top.
I am hoping that when I sober up I will see things differently but when your players cannot put together an offensive play in over 8 minutes and the lineup at jump ball includes an Khadim Ndiaye and Felix Balamou you guys will have a tough time convincing me that Lavin did not "throw" this game to serve a personal agenda.
 
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