Fox Sports 1 Considering Their Own "Big Monday"

I thought ESPN had the ACC?
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Everyone sub-licenses out games. Only so many games can fit on network TV. Its a way for them to make a little buck back on the heavy rights fees.
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I understand that but I fgure ESPN would sub-license the ACC games, not FOX. This stuff just confuses me.
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Its Fox Sports not Fox Sports 1. Fox has always had ACC games. Sunday night if I recall correctly like 6pm game or something.
 
I thought ESPN had the ACC?
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Everyone sub-licenses out games. Only so many games can fit on network TV. Its a way for them to make a little buck back on the heavy rights fees.
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I understand that but I fgure ESPN would sub-license the ACC games, not FOX. This stuff just confuses me.
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Its Fox Sports not Fox Sports 1. Fox has always had ACC games. Sunday night if I recall correctly like 6pm game or something.
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A few years back, I had to deal with ESPN while we trying to launch an all-football network. They were ruthless about squashing upstart competition, which is how they probably perceive the "new" Fox vis a vis college basketball. Without going into boring details, I wouldn't be surprised if ESPN found a way to keep the ACC off of Fox if they felt it wasn't in their best interest.
 
Syracuse should not be thought of in the same breath as THE BIG EAST. They chose to divorce themselfs from the BIG EAST. I hope they get closed out every time their name is mentioned. I also wish we never renewed a rivalry with them.I think it gives them a distinct advantage I think we should not contribute to their physical presence in NYC. They will begin their fall as soon as BIG JIM RETIRES. We should not make it easier for them to be in NYC.
 
Maryland is closer to NYC than Syracuse by 30 minutes. Maryland the ACC's NY team! Also 5 BE schools are closer to NYC than Syracuse: SJU, SH, Nova, Prov and Gtown are all closer than Syracuse.
 
Although this is slightly off the topic of this thread, I wanted to point out something that a few have mentioned here. No one will argue that Syracuse is not geographically close to NYC in comparison to many of the Big East schools, or even schools like Maryland & Rutgers. Also, no one despises Syracuse more than I do, but they call themselves "New York's College Team" because of the size & presence of their fan base here in NYC. They do show up in great numbers, not just here, but also in other areas (Philly, DC, Boston, etc). It's up to us as fans, students and alums to change that by making our presence felt on December 15. Lets forget about geography and lets make sure we do two things between now & then; pencil that date in & make sure you have something red to wear.

We Are...St. John's
We Are...New York's Team
 
Maybe I'm crazy but while I'm sure Syracuse want's folks to read their tagline as they're New York City's Team, it clearly reads they are New York's team and they surely are, geographically as well as in sheer numbers, New York State's team. So, am I crazy?
 
Maybe I'm crazy but while I'm sure Syracuse want's folks to read their tagline as they're New York City's Team, it clearly reads they are New York's team and they surely are, geographically as well as in sheer numbers, New York State's team. So, am I crazy?
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Your right but there is a difference of advertising on a NYC cab versus the side of Mom and Pop's hardware store in bumblefrack NY.
 
Well in terms of dollars obviously, but NYC is still part of NY State, or at least it was when I lived there. Are they advertising in Albany and Buffalo? I honestly don't know.
 
Maybe I'm crazy but while I'm sure Syracuse want's folks to read their tagline as they're New York City's Team, it clearly reads they are New York's team and they surely are, geographically as well as in sheer numbers, New York State's team. So, am I crazy?
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Your right but there is a difference of advertising on a NYC cab versus the side of Mom and Pop's hardware store in bumblefrack NY.
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My geography may be off, but is bumblefrack just east of podunk?
 
Well in terms of dollars obviously, but NYC is still part of NY State, or at least it was when I lived there. Are they advertising in Albany and Buffalo? I honestly don't know.
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Sarcasm flowing steady today, eh?

There was a big hubbub when the Brooklyn Nets started advertising in Manhattan on so called Knicks turf. And that team is just a few miles from Manhattan. So for STJ fans to get pissy that a team 7 hrs away decides to call themselves NY's team, I think the criticism is warranted.
 
I agree Moose but I think that's why Syracuse has never said they are "New York City's College Team". If anything I think they are trying to say that they are the State's team and they are also saying "make no mistake about it NYC is included in that equation".
 
Well in terms of dollars obviously, but NYC is still part of NY State, or at least it was when I lived there. Are they advertising in Albany and Buffalo? I honestly don't know.
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Let them blow their advertising dollars as they please. Last I checked they play their games in Syracuse and make a guest appearance or two in NYC. Now they also lack a post season in NYC. F Syracuse!
 
it's frustrating to get an annual smackdown from the "orange". when we can consistantly beat syracuse, we'll be new york's team. until then, they've earned the right to call themselves anything they want. who can argue?

when the buffalo bills start winning super bowl championships, they'll be called new york's team.
 
it's frustrating to get an annual smackdown from the "orange". when we can consistantly beat syracuse, we'll be new york's team. until then, they've earned the right to call themselves anything they want. who can argue?

when the buffalo bills start winning super bowl championships, they'll be called new york's team.
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The Bills already are New York's team, its only NFL team.
 
Fox has "yet to cut carriage deals with three of the country’s four biggest distributors, raising the possibility that its August launch of Fox Sports 1 will fall short of the 90 million homes the channel is expected to have," according to John Ourand in this week's SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL. DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable "still are negotiating to carry FS1 on Aug. 17." The fact that "so many deals are open a month before a network launch is not unusual in the cable industry." Though talks have been described as "amicable for the most part, news that some big deals aren’t done runs counter to the widespread belief in the sports industry that FS1 will flip a switch next month and launch to 90 million homes." SNL Kagan data shows that distributors currently "pay around 23 cents per subscriber per month for Speed." Sources said that FS1 is "being offered at 80 cents per subscriber per month at first, with increases that would push the fee to the $1.50 range over the life of a multiyear carriage deal." Distribution execs originally believed that they "would be able to carry FS1 at the same lower rate they pay for Speed until their Speed contracts end." But sources said that Fox has "not made that offer to any distributor that hasn’t signed new carriage deals." One of the main issues Fox is facing "concerns the atmosphere around the high cost of sports rights." Several distributors recently have "become emboldened by keeping sports channels off their systems." But FS1 "expects to be different, positioning itself as an alternative that could help distributors keep the high-priced ESPN in check" (SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL, 7/15 issue).
 
Fox has "yet to cut carriage deals with three of the country’s four biggest distributors, raising the possibility that its August launch of Fox Sports 1 will fall short of the 90 million homes the channel is expected to have," according to John Ourand in this week's SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL. DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable "still are negotiating to carry FS1 on Aug. 17." The fact that "so many deals are open a month before a network launch is not unusual in the cable industry." Though talks have been described as "amicable for the most part, news that some big deals aren’t done runs counter to the widespread belief in the sports industry that FS1 will flip a switch next month and launch to 90 million homes." SNL Kagan data shows that distributors currently "pay around 23 cents per subscriber per month for Speed." Sources said that FS1 is "being offered at 80 cents per subscriber per month at first, with increases that would push the fee to the $1.50 range over the life of a multiyear carriage deal." Distribution execs originally believed that they "would be able to carry FS1 at the same lower rate they pay for Speed until their Speed contracts end." But sources said that Fox has "not made that offer to any distributor that hasn’t signed new carriage deals." One of the main issues Fox is facing "concerns the atmosphere around the high cost of sports rights." Several distributors recently have "become emboldened by keeping sports channels off their systems." But FS1 "expects to be different, positioning itself as an alternative that could help distributors keep the high-priced ESPN in check" (SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL, 7/15 issue).
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Surprised that Cablevision isn't causing headaches with their customers regarding this channel. Pleasantly surprised.
 
Fox has "yet to cut carriage deals with three of the country’s four biggest distributors, raising the possibility that its August launch of Fox Sports 1 will fall short of the 90 million homes the channel is expected to have," according to John Ourand in this week's SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL. DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable "still are negotiating to carry FS1 on Aug. 17." The fact that "so many deals are open a month before a network launch is not unusual in the cable industry." Though talks have been described as "amicable for the most part, news that some big deals aren’t done runs counter to the widespread belief in the sports industry that FS1 will flip a switch next month and launch to 90 million homes." SNL Kagan data shows that distributors currently "pay around 23 cents per subscriber per month for Speed." Sources said that FS1 is "being offered at 80 cents per subscriber per month at first, with increases that would push the fee to the $1.50 range over the life of a multiyear carriage deal." Distribution execs originally believed that they "would be able to carry FS1 at the same lower rate they pay for Speed until their Speed contracts end." But sources said that Fox has "not made that offer to any distributor that hasn’t signed new carriage deals." One of the main issues Fox is facing "concerns the atmosphere around the high cost of sports rights." Several distributors recently have "become emboldened by keeping sports channels off their systems." But FS1 "expects to be different, positioning itself as an alternative that could help distributors keep the high-priced ESPN in check" (SPORTSBUSINESS JOURNAL, 7/15 issue).
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It doesn't have to be ready by August 17. Just by basketball season.

Also, any respectable sports fan that still has DISH Network seriously has some questions to answer, IMO.
 
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