Final 5 Games
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now that i know we are most likely going to the tournament, the fan in me wants us to be in the best position possible to make a second weekend run. In this case, that means getting to the 6 line. 4-1 with run in the BET or 5-0 plus one win in BET is probably the best way to become a 6 seed so i will be hoping for that.
Agree with the comment about Seton hall. If we go 3-2, or worse, make sure one of the wins is the game saturday
Agree with the comment about Seton hall. If we go 3-2, or worse, make sure one of the wins is the game saturday
5-0 I would be ecstatic, 4-1 very happy, 3-2 satisfied, 2-3 or less extremely unhappy.
I am truly proud of this team for how they cane back from 19 down against Nova and hope that we have now turned a corner. If that’s the case , 4-1 should be the goal. This team has been up and down in conference play so I would have to hope for 3-2 based on past in conference performance this season. If they beat Providence tomorrow, then I will say they have turned a corner and would bet on 4-1. But they still have to prove that they can be consistent in conference play.
I am truly proud of this team for how they cane back from 19 down against Nova and hope that we have now turned a corner. If that’s the case , 4-1 should be the goal. This team has been up and down in conference play so I would have to hope for 3-2 based on past in conference performance this season. If they beat Providence tomorrow, then I will say they have turned a corner and would bet on 4-1. But they still have to prove that they can be consistent in conference play.
For me, while I'd love to see us go 4-1 or 5-0, I'd be happy with 3-2 and have us make the Big East finals. We haven't been in a final since 2000 and have only been in 5 in total, 3 of which were in the 1980s. That would make us prime time NY again.
If we were to finish 3-2 (22-9), make the finals of the Big East and win one in the NCAA, Mullin will have something to be proud of and the Johnnies will own NYC.
If we were to finish 3-2 (22-9), make the finals of the Big East and win one in the NCAA, Mullin will have something to be proud of and the Johnnies will own NYC.
I agree it’s one game at a time and that we have to prove the phenomenal comeback win against Nova was not Dr. Jekyll alive for just one game as we revert into Mr. Hyde mode.
We have to prove we have found out how to play tough and focused together the rest of this season.
That said, let’s beat Providence tomorrow and go from there.
We have to prove we have found out how to play tough and focused together the rest of this season.
That said, let’s beat Providence tomorrow and go from there.
Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4
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[quote="Matty Hoops" post=323936]Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)
[quote="espken" post=323913]3-2 would be disappointing considering we are 3-1 against Villanova and Marquette.
7-7 against the rest of the league would infer lack of focus.[/quote]
Exactly, espken.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but for the folks who are "fine" or satisfied with going 3-2.... Well, it goes back to what I've said several months ago in reference to lowering expectations.
If some, and there were several few, who thought this would be our best team in practically two decades, then why be content with being a 7-10 seed? I'll take it as I have no choice or say in what happens, but that doesn't mean I'll be satisfied.
Not to mention, if we go 3-2 and say lose in our first or even second game of the Big East Tournament, right? Then you risk the chance of falling in between 7-10 seed line. Once we're grizzly bear mauled in the second round of the NCAA Tournament due to a poor matchup and not being on par as the opposition then some of y'all will see why going 3-2 the remainder of the regular season shouldn't be considered acceptable.
Saying you think we'll go 3-2 the rest of the way and being satisfied are two different things. I honestly think we're going to go either 4-1 or 3-2, but I'd be disappointed in the latter. I'll only be satisfied going 5-0 or 4-1.
7-7 against the rest of the league would infer lack of focus.[/quote]
Exactly, espken.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but for the folks who are "fine" or satisfied with going 3-2.... Well, it goes back to what I've said several months ago in reference to lowering expectations.
If some, and there were several few, who thought this would be our best team in practically two decades, then why be content with being a 7-10 seed? I'll take it as I have no choice or say in what happens, but that doesn't mean I'll be satisfied.
Not to mention, if we go 3-2 and say lose in our first or even second game of the Big East Tournament, right? Then you risk the chance of falling in between 7-10 seed line. Once we're grizzly bear mauled in the second round of the NCAA Tournament due to a poor matchup and not being on par as the opposition then some of y'all will see why going 3-2 the remainder of the regular season shouldn't be considered acceptable.
Saying you think we'll go 3-2 the rest of the way and being satisfied are two different things. I honestly think we're going to go either 4-1 or 3-2, but I'd be disappointed in the latter. I'll only be satisfied going 5-0 or 4-1.
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RyGuyRedStorm
Well-known member
We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.
[quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=323951]We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
Here’s some perspective for you. We are 3-1 against Marquette and Villanova, the top dogs in the conference. Clearly this team has shown us that they are capable of things that the past three teams were not. Fans are adjusting their expectations and hopes accordingly. And I don’t see anything wrong with that
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
Here’s some perspective for you. We are 3-1 against Marquette and Villanova, the top dogs in the conference. Clearly this team has shown us that they are capable of things that the past three teams were not. Fans are adjusting their expectations and hopes accordingly. And I don’t see anything wrong with that
[quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=323951]We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
You say, perspective and I say expectations. Expectations that was mentioned by quite a few on here earlier. Expectations also based on conference coaches per Big East preseason polls.
I also believe the "nightmare matchups" with Providence and DePaul are overplayed. Neither team has shot the ball well behind the arc this season or particularly protected the ball. So, you don't play to their strengths. Implement some zone or ramp up the ball pressure. Or, do both.
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
You say, perspective and I say expectations. Expectations that was mentioned by quite a few on here earlier. Expectations also based on conference coaches per Big East preseason polls.
I also believe the "nightmare matchups" with Providence and DePaul are overplayed. Neither team has shot the ball well behind the arc this season or particularly protected the ball. So, you don't play to their strengths. Implement some zone or ramp up the ball pressure. Or, do both.
Class of 72
Active member
[quote="MJDinkins" post=323954][quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=323951]We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
You say, perspective and I say expectations. Expectations that was mentioned by quite a few on here earlier. Expectations also based on conference coaches per Big East preseason polls.
I also believe the "nightmare matchups" with Providence and DePaul are overplayed. Neither team has shot the ball well behind the arc this season or particularly protected the ball. So, you don't play to their strengths. Implement some zone or ramp up the ball pressure. Or, do both.[/quote]
I agree and that ball pressure should be keyed by the long arms of Justin Simon in the backcourt. Both Providence and DePaul have big 6'6 guards and they have the ability to play high low. We need to minimize that strength. Keita, Trimble and the frosh will all become integral pieces as we approach the Big East tournament. 4-1 is very doable but 3-2 won't get us higher than a 9 seed unless we advance at MSG and end up with a 23 game win record. The ACC and Big are going to steal more invites than they deserve.
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
You say, perspective and I say expectations. Expectations that was mentioned by quite a few on here earlier. Expectations also based on conference coaches per Big East preseason polls.
I also believe the "nightmare matchups" with Providence and DePaul are overplayed. Neither team has shot the ball well behind the arc this season or particularly protected the ball. So, you don't play to their strengths. Implement some zone or ramp up the ball pressure. Or, do both.[/quote]
I agree and that ball pressure should be keyed by the long arms of Justin Simon in the backcourt. Both Providence and DePaul have big 6'6 guards and they have the ability to play high low. We need to minimize that strength. Keita, Trimble and the frosh will all become integral pieces as we approach the Big East tournament. 4-1 is very doable but 3-2 won't get us higher than a 9 seed unless we advance at MSG and end up with a 23 game win record. The ACC and Big are going to steal more invites than they deserve.
RyGuyRedStorm
Well-known member
[quote="Jack Williams" post=323952][quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=323951]We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
Here’s some perspective for you. We are 3-1 against Marquette and Villanova, the top dogs in the conference. Clearly this team has shown us that they are capable of things that the past three teams were not. Fans are adjusting their expectations and hopes accordingly. And I don’t see anything wrong with that[/quote]
Same team has also shown they can lose to any team in the conference just as well.
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
Here’s some perspective for you. We are 3-1 against Marquette and Villanova, the top dogs in the conference. Clearly this team has shown us that they are capable of things that the past three teams were not. Fans are adjusting their expectations and hopes accordingly. And I don’t see anything wrong with that[/quote]
Same team has also shown they can lose to any team in the conference just as well.
Moose
Well-known member
[quote="Room112" post=323944][quote="Matty Hoops" post=323936]Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Respect your opinion but if that's the case then we really aren't as good as we are all pretending.
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Respect your opinion but if that's the case then we really aren't as good as we are all pretending.
[quote="Room112" post=323944][quote="Matty Hoops" post=323936]Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Nice 112
It’s a cliche but one game at a time and not beat the remaining schedule to death...
I’d be happy w 20 Ws
I’d be happy w an invite to the Dance
After the last two decades I’m
not greedy
And for now the total focus must be the very next game
Go Storm - “March” onward
W.T. Sherman
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Nice 112
It’s a cliche but one game at a time and not beat the remaining schedule to death...
I’d be happy w 20 Ws
I’d be happy w an invite to the Dance
After the last two decades I’m
not greedy
And for now the total focus must be the very next game
Go Storm - “March” onward
W.T. Sherman
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[quote="Room112" post=323944][quote="Matty Hoops" post=323936]Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
All noted and you're right pragmatically but the question was would you be disappointed to only win 3 and the answer, vs this competition coming up, should be yes. Many if not most of us have been disappointed a number of times already this season, but not enough so to be happy with a mediocre finish.
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
All noted and you're right pragmatically but the question was would you be disappointed to only win 3 and the answer, vs this competition coming up, should be yes. Many if not most of us have been disappointed a number of times already this season, but not enough so to be happy with a mediocre finish.
[quote="RyGuyRedStorm" post=323951]We’ve had a losing record three years in a row. Last year we were 4-14 in conference. Now we’re not satisfied with going 3-2, getting a 22 win season, winning record in conference and making the tournament?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
How often do we get a special player like Shamorie? We've got two very skilled players in Heron and LJ, and 2 very serviceable guys in Clark and Simon. Of the 5 games, 3 are against teams we've lost to, so that is motivation enough and the other 2 are against a 13-13 team. If we are worried about matchups against Providence and DePaul, how can we expect to complete in the NCAAs?
Perspective around here is a weird combination of way too long and way too short.
We get 3 games and I’m thrilled. Especially given matchup nightmares with Providence and DePaul.[/quote]
How often do we get a special player like Shamorie? We've got two very skilled players in Heron and LJ, and 2 very serviceable guys in Clark and Simon. Of the 5 games, 3 are against teams we've lost to, so that is motivation enough and the other 2 are against a 13-13 team. If we are worried about matchups against Providence and DePaul, how can we expect to complete in the NCAAs?
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=323962][quote="Room112" post=323944][quote="Matty Hoops" post=323936]Most likely outcomes ranked in order:
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Nice 112
It’s a cliche but one game at a time and not beat the remaining schedule to death...
I’d be happy w 20 Ws
I’d be happy w an invite to the Dance
After the last two decades I’m
not greedy
And for now the total focus must be the very next game
Go Storm - “March” onward
W.T. Sherman[/quote]
Gen. We have 19 wins.
3-2
2-3
4-1
5-0
1-4[/quote]
Agreed. And in my opinion, most on here are setting themselves up to be disappointed! With the way the team has been Jekyl and Hyde all year, it's not realistic to EXPECT to win games we should. To me, every game is a possible loss aside from home vs Xavier. Road games are never a gimme no matter who you're playing, and we have 3 left. And Seton Hall is one of the better teams in the Big East.
So I look at it as 4 coin flips and a win. I prefer to remain level headed and see where it goes. Haven't we realized what getting too high or too low does to us?? B)[/quote]
Nice 112
It’s a cliche but one game at a time and not beat the remaining schedule to death...
I’d be happy w 20 Ws
I’d be happy w an invite to the Dance
After the last two decades I’m
not greedy
And for now the total focus must be the very next game
Go Storm - “March” onward
W.T. Sherman[/quote]
Gen. We have 19 wins.