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9/22 is not going to win you a lot of games. Getting fouled in the act doesn't count as an official shot, so unless he hit 9 3's, you really didn't produce 27 points off 22 shots. My opinion is that if you are going to be taking 22 shots, you'd better be making at least half of them, and maybe more.
Share the wealth is all I'm saying. If Orlando was on a lesser team, he'd be putting up monster numbers simply because of his versatility.
Moose's comparison of Dee to Russ Smith is starting to look eerie. Dee is skilled enough not just to be labeled as a gunner. So why is he gunning? Does the ball even leave his hands once he touches it?
This falls on Lavin and Whitesell.
You have more than one tool in the toolbox. Use them.
Harrison has a much more difficult role than say a Dom Pointer when it comes to scoring, and his shots shouldn't really be viewed in the same light. Harrison has to take tougher shots. Nobody wants Dom shooting off the bounce, coming off screens, etc. Harrison is far and away our best option for those tough shots. Obviously, if you can get penetration and a dish or something in secondary transition, you take that from anyone. A lot of half court sets won't produce that even for the best teams, and that is where you need a player like Harrison. Harrison does an amazing job of drawing contact and he has very good vision and handle. I want the ball in his hands as much as possible. The only player that was on Harrison's level last year was Branch for a little stretch and their chemistry was awesome. From the brief highlights it loos like Harrison has the same repect/trust for Sanchez and Jordan.
I really can't believe that 27 points on 22 shots is drawing any criticism or worry from our fans!
I'll admit it, i was disappointed in seeing Harrison taking 22 shots. It sounds like more more of the same old offense.
Harrison taking 22 shots and making only 40% would not be great/could be a disaster. The ball should be spread more, and hopefully it is from point guard penetration going to the rim for easy buckets / fouls or dishes for taller guys for layups. That's more efficient basketball.
A team shooting 40% from the field, round rank around 315th in the NCAA in shooting. I know big-men that only dunk bring that average up, but still getting only 40% from your lead guy would almost certainly not be good. Otto Porter was a high volume shooter and he shot 48% from the field (42% from three). Ben McLemore shot 50% from the field. Steph Curry shot 47%. Their respective teams win games. The only guy I saw that shot 40% from the field on a good team, was Peyton Siva at only 40% - but he only averaged 10 pts a game, so he took a lot less shots.
If Harrison is jacking up 22 shots a game and only getting 40% of them to go in, we'll have a very mediocre year. Either his shooting percentage has to come up, or his # of shots have to come down. No way around it. We have to be more efficient on offense.
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Orlando was on a much lesser team at Monroe, and he averaged single digits. He's not an alpha scorer. His biggest contributions will be getting the ball off the glass and using his skill to move it around. He's a capable scorer, but we're in trouble if he has to carry the scoring load.
As for Harrison, how can we label him a gunner for yesterday if we didn't see the game? We WON. Twitter feeds said he willed us to victory. He's our best FT shooteer by a mile, he's got an airtight handle, he has good vision, he strains the defense everytime he touches the ball, and he makes things easier for everyone around him because of his offensive prowess. Maybe he was killing it off the dribble and spreading it around? We didn't see. He did what he needed to win us a close one.
I said it many times last year and ill say it again. The ball leaves dlo's hands more often than it leaves Jakarr's.
Having seen Sanchez play at Monroe CC, I agree with post above. He has never been or will be a prolific scorer. Well rounded, multi talented, but not going to be a big scorer. That's ok on this team. He can pass, keep defenses honest with decent shooting touch, play same D & rebound. He also will increase the B'Ball IQ of a squad that needs that.
Cant disagree. But part of being a good player is being a team player. This year its going to be harder for other teams to double team DLO. His FR year he was my favorite player. I don't know what specific issues he had last year, but he did not improve from his FR year. I believe if DLOs shot selection is better, we will be in better shape during crunch time.
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As I said, every time you get fouled in the act of shooting, you don't get charged with a shot attempt unless the ball goes in. Fouls not in the act of shooting costs you a possession, so I don't want to look at points scored as justifying 9/22 UNLESS a large number of three point shots were made (basically count as 1.5 shots made for every three point basket). I agree with your assessment of Harrison being able to create his own shot where others aren't as adept. At this point I'd rather see Sampson shoot from 15, than Harrison from 18-20 since Sampson is a much more reliable shooter.
My only point is that if Harrison becomes more selective, he can take 12-15 shots per game, and have his shooting % inch towards 46-50%. If he does that we will have a very good season. IF he insists on scoring 20 ppg at 30%, he will be a very poor man's Alan Iverson, and the losses will mount. 9-22 of course isn't 30%, but i'd be much happier with 9-17.
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I'd agree, but that's how it should be. Sampson should be receiving the ball in position to shoot and not running the offense.
Harrison doesn't have the luxury of being more selective. We are not a skilled offensive team even with the addition of Sanchez and Jordan. If he was surrounded by offensively talent players, it would be a different story. Our offense was TERRIBLE last year. We had no inside offensive threat and we were one of the worst three-point shooting teams in the country. Stop Harrison and you won last year...that simple.
You take the easy baskets when you can get them, but when there is less than 10 on the shot clock...guess who has the luxury of jacking up low % shots because they are the only one that can hit them? Harrison. Not fair for his shooting %s. The only time Harrison had a teammate near his level was when Branch was cruising before the injury. They had a great chemistry and I really think I saw that between Harrison and Sanchez and Jordan in the limited video. It's not fair to kill the guy that suffered because of how inept the others were around him last season.
He's not a monster scorer but he is a versatile playmaker.
My problem with Dee is that the other players may start to force shots because they don't think that they'll see the ball again. That is a serious problem which I thought with the addition of quality players, shooters and Whitesell we would have moved on from.