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[Porgyman]

[quote="bamafan" post=72923One point win over G'town in Jan which propelled us to #1 ranking was actually on the road. they then beat us twice in MSG and for the third time in Final 4.

One point win doesn't define the game. We had them by double digits late in the game and they mounted a rally where believe it or not the outcome wasn't much in jeopardy. If I remember, Berry played a great game in Landover. Thankfully, after Georgetown went on a tear in the sweater game at MSG, going up something like 35-4 in the first half, I scarcely remember the rest of the season. All I remember about being in Lexington was that we were never in the game, were horribly depressed, and despite holding tickets to the finals, sold them and went home (missing perhaps the greatest final in history) Even in our finest season in 50 years, the net emotion was painful failure.

Sorry to have to correct you again but G'town never went up anything like 35-4 you are confusing the sweater game of 85 with the game Ewing and Mullin freshmen year of 81-82 when G'town was up 41-9 at halftime. What a nightmare in the Garden and I remember arriving to my seat a little late because of the SOR crowd and Ewing was doing reverse alley oop dunks on our heads.

Re: The Landover game - you are correct that SJU held on. we were up by 18 with 10 minutes to go, and Georgetown poured it on.

Re: The sweater game. Again you are correct. We were "only" down by 11 at the half. Can anyone find a link to the running score? I remember it being much worse early in the game.[/quote]

I attended the game in 81 at the Garden. It was also my freshman year. 2 memories for me from that game. 1) Before the game and during the intros, STJ fans were chanting "Ewing can't read". This was right after a really ugly incident in a G'Town game in Providence where Friar fans were holding up monkey pictures and IIRC throwing banana peels at Ewing. Really ugly stuff. 2) Ewing came out, swatted a couple of our shots and had some really nasty dunks against us. He was clearly energized and motivated by the chants...as was the entire G'Town team.
Regarding the Final 4 game, it was not much of a game. G'Town jumped out early...I recall us making a little push before the half, but it never felt like there was an epic comeback in the making. Interesting thought: If the seasons were repeated now...would St. John's and G'Town be in brackets that play each other in the National semifinal? I would think that they would have flipped us with Memphis.

 

[beast of the east]

[quote="bamafan" post=72923One point win over G'town in Jan which propelled us to #1 ranking was actually on the road. they then beat us twice in MSG and for the third time in Final 4.

One point win doesn't define the game. We had them by double digits late in the game and they mounted a rally where believe it or not the outcome wasn't much in jeopardy. If I remember, Berry played a great game in Landover. Thankfully, after Georgetown went on a tear in the sweater game at MSG, going up something like 35-4 in the first half, I scarcely remember the rest of the season. All I remember about being in Lexington was that we were never in the game, were horribly depressed, and despite holding tickets to the finals, sold them and went home (missing perhaps the greatest final in history) Even in our finest season in 50 years, the net emotion was painful failure.

Sorry to have to correct you again but G'town never went up anything like 35-4 you are confusing the sweater game of 85 with the game Ewing and Mullin freshmen year of 81-82 when G'town was up 41-9 at halftime. What a nightmare in the Garden and I remember arriving to my seat a little late because of the SOR crowd and Ewing was doing reverse alley oop dunks on our heads.

Re: The Landover game - you are correct that SJU held on. we were up by 18 with 10 minutes to go, and Georgetown poured it on.

Re: The sweater game. Again you are correct. We were "only" down by 11 at the half. Can anyone find a link to the running score? I remember it being much worse early in the game.

I attended the game in 81 at the Garden. It was also my freshman year. 2 memories for me from that game. 1) Before the game and during the intros, STJ fans were chanting "Ewing can't read". This was right after a really ugly incident in a G'Town game in Providence where Friar fans were holding up monkey pictures and IIRC throwing banana peels at Ewing. Really ugly stuff. 2) Ewing came out, swatted a couple of our shots and had some really nasty dunks against us. He was clearly energized and motivated by the chants...as was the entire G'Town team.
Regarding the Final 4 game, it was not much of a game. G'Town jumped out early...I recall us making a little push before the half, but it never felt like there was an epic comeback in the making. Interesting thought: If the seasons were repeated now...would St. John's and G'Town be in brackets that play each other in the National semifinal? I would think that they would have flipped us with Memphis.[/quote]

It's never a flip - they often fill out the western bracket with better teams from around the country. The brackets are preset based on the regions. With 3 Big East teams in the final four it hardly mattered in terms of matchups. Villanova played a perfect game, and who knows - we could have lost to Memphis state. We always lament that had we played Memphis State, we'd have drawn Nova in the Finals and beaten them handily. But we could also have lost to Memphis State, or the way Villanova played against Georgetown, we could have gotten whipped also. Nova did match up extremely well against Georgetown, but then again, it's very hard to beat a good team three times in one season

 

[SJU85]

[quote="bamafan" post=72923One point win over G'town in Jan which propelled us to #1 ranking was actually on the road. they then beat us twice in MSG and for the third time in Final 4.

One point win doesn't define the game. We had them by double digits late in the game and they mounted a rally where believe it or not the outcome wasn't much in jeopardy. If I remember, Berry played a great game in Landover. Thankfully, after Georgetown went on a tear in the sweater game at MSG, going up something like 35-4 in the first half, I scarcely remember the rest of the season. All I remember about being in Lexington was that we were never in the game, were horribly depressed, and despite holding tickets to the finals, sold them and went home (missing perhaps the greatest final in history) Even in our finest season in 50 years, the net emotion was painful failure.

Sorry to have to correct you again but G'town never went up anything like 35-4 you are confusing the sweater game of 85 with the game Ewing and Mullin freshmen year of 81-82 when G'town was up 41-9 at halftime. What a nightmare in the Garden and I remember arriving to my seat a little late because of the SOR crowd and Ewing was doing reverse alley oop dunks on our heads.

Re: The Landover game - you are correct that SJU held on. we were up by 18 with 10 minutes to go, and Georgetown poured it on.

Re: The sweater game. Again you are correct. We were "only" down by 11 at the half. Can anyone find a link to the running score? I remember it being much worse early in the game.

I attended the game in 81 at the Garden. It was also my freshman year. 2 memories for me from that game. 1) Before the game and during the intros, STJ fans were chanting "Ewing can't read". This was right after a really ugly incident in a G'Town game in Providence where Friar fans were holding up monkey pictures and IIRC throwing banana peels at Ewing. Really ugly stuff. 2) Ewing came out, swatted a couple of our shots and had some really nasty dunks against us. He was clearly energized and motivated by the chants...as was the entire G'Town team.
Regarding the Final 4 game, it was not much of a game. G'Town jumped out early...I recall us making a little push before the half, but it never felt like there was an epic comeback in the making. Interesting thought: If the seasons were repeated now...would St. John's and G'Town be in brackets that play each other in the National semifinal? I would think that they would have flipped us with Memphis.

It's never a flip - they often fill out the western bracket with better teams from around the country. The brackets are preset based on the regions. With 3 Big East teams in the final four it hardly mattered in terms of matchups. Villanova played a perfect game, and who knows - we could have lost to Memphis state. We always lament that had we played Memphis State, we'd have drawn Nova in the Finals and beaten them handily. But we could also have lost to Memphis State, or the way Villanova played against Georgetown, we could have gotten whipped also. Nova did match up extremely well against Georgetown, but then again, it's very hard to beat a good team three times in one season[/quote]

Unfortunately, GTown did just that against us. :furious: :furious: :

 

[SJU85]

Re: the Niagara game on 12/15/1984...................I missed it, thank god. Living upstate NY for many years, sometimes the only games I could get to see live were the Niagara and the Syracuse game so I looked forward to them. On 12/15 of that year we had a snowfall of epic proportions and I gave up trying to drive in it about 40 miles short of the Falls in Batavia NY.
I got a motel room but found that the game was not televised!
I woke up at midnight and , feeling certain that StJ had been victorious, I call the sports desk at the NY Times to get a score .I had the guy check it twice before I began the sleepless portion of the rest of my evening.
They still celebrate that night in the Falls and anyone who has a button marked "62/59 Dec.15,'84" wears it proudly to their gym.
In retrospect for a position almost 40 years later, I almost understand it better today. Basketball was different then. You could get a good game out of any team in the eastern USA. Earlier that year we had lucked out wins by ONE point against Fordham and St, Bonny's. Guys who seem like pigeons today were threats then. As great a group of talent we had then, we played half a dozen or so 1 and 2 point games against Providence, BC, Syr., etc. It wasn't until March, after our first loss to the Hoyas, the "greatest college team of the second half of the century", that we got hot and really took charge from the tip off. Much of the early part of the season was trailing at the half or sometime with 10 to go,and hanging in in the last three minutes to snag a win
That season aged a lot of us prematurely. As great as the season was, the kids didn't make it easy for Looie and the fans for the first 20 games save for the 1 point win over G'town in the Garden on January 26, 1985. That was all of our most memorable moments of the Garden, of StJ and of that wonderful team.

One point win over G'town in Jan which propelled us to #1 ranking was actually on the road. they then beat us twice in MSG and for the third time in Final 4.

Attended all MSG games. Had to leave early from one of the G'town games which started at 9pm, went on to catch last LIRR train to Ronkonkoma. That made our lost even worse.

Ronkonkoma line pre electrification, ouch.

Oh come on, it's not that bad. Nassau people always make fun of me and say "oh wow that's SO FAR!". It's only about 1 hour 15 minutes now. When you consider it goes 37 MPH average making a million stops and it also takes around the same amount of time (give or take 10-15 min) to get to Manhattan from many parts of Staten Island and even Queens it really isn't that bad. To Jamaica is only about 45 min on the express trains from Ronk. They need more expresses.

The point was he had to leave the game early because he was going to miss the last train to Ronkonkoma. Add to the fact that he had to change at either Jamaica or Hicksville since the Ronkonkoma Branch east of Hicksville was diesel country as it was not electrified at that time. It was not the 24/7 line it is now. Worst case scenario he would have to wait an hour for the next train if he got out by 1:10.

 

[redmen1969]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

 

[bamafan]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

Um, monogamy is overrated?

 

[SJU85]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

I had Professor O'Henry (who later became Professor Henry) for two Philosophy classes and D plus Demaio for the other one (I either got a C or a C+. People said he had mellowed). Several people told me that the Theology of Marriage class was extremely fun..., well evidently I got the wrong professor because it definitely wasn't any fun and he (I don't recall his name) was horrible.

Been married for 20 years, so I guess I learned something.

 

[L J S A]

Is this a forum and thread about Stj hoops? These posts are ridiculous

The season hasn't started and all is quiet on the recruiting front. Are people's panties really in that much of a twist when a topic goes off on a tangent for one page? Jeez.

We have to read, from some tool who knows nothing about everything, how ppl will get raped and stabbed in E NY? I guess that has a lot to do with the teams trip to Eurpoe.

Well, that part may have been a little off, particularly where he presumed to know more about my wife than I do. But my whole point is that having to strictly adhere to the title of the thread like a robot is silly when it's summer . . . and there's nothing exciting in recruiting . . . and the Europe trip has been talked to death. I personally like to know about the lives of people who I spend so much time online with.

 

[beast of the east]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

I had Professor O'Henry (who later became Professor Henry) for two Philosophy classes and D plus Demaio for the other one (I either got a C or a C+. People said he had mellowed). Several people told me that the Theology of Marriage class was extremely fun..., well evidently I got the wrong professor because it definitely wasn't any fun and he (I don't recall his name) was horrible.

Been married for 20 years, so I guess I learned something.

A C+ from D-plus Demaio! This is a true story: There was this guy in DSP (top sports frat for years) who was a great athlete but not very bright (6 year plan to graduate from St. Vincent's College back in the days where that was almost impossible to achieve). Nice guy though. One day I saw him in the library the morning before a Demaio exam. He was reading a newspaper, casually, without a care in the world. I said to him, "What are you doing? Are you done studying? He say, "For what?" I tell him, "We've got a Philosophy exam at 11, haven't you studied at all?" He casually says, "No. Not at all. They callhim d-plus DeMaio - he gives everyone a D-plus, I figure, I don't have to study, and I'll just get a D-plus."

 

[Redmen07]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

I had Professor O'Henry (who later became Professor Henry) for two Philosophy classes and D plus Demaio for the other one (I either got a C or a C+. People said he had mellowed). Several people told me that the Theology of Marriage class was extremely fun..., well evidently I got the wrong professor because it definitely wasn't any fun and he (I don't recall his name) was horrible.

Been married for 20 years, so I guess I learned something.

I had Dr. Michael Henry for Philosophy in 2005 as a sophomore Finance major. His class was one of the top 3 hardest classes I ever took at SJU. Not to mention as a person he seemed to be a cold, miserable, and lonely man. This was the only class in college I had to get expunged from my record. He just seemed to not embody the spirit of the school if your teaching Philosophy to Finance majors have some common sense.

I re-took the class a year later with Dr. Glen Statile and what a difference it was B+ and I learned so much more. He was a fantastic professor. After looked at ratemyprofessor.com like it was the Bible.

When I look back at SJU almost always remeber the good things however when I do think of things that bothered me Dr. Michael Henry is the top of the list. I really can't stand that guy.

 

[STJ11Redmen]

Theology should not be a difficult course for most entering college Freshman, athlete or not...

My Freshman year I had to pray that I would pass the final so I could pass the theology class

I don't recall theology being hard, although I took The45 (Marriage) with Father Badia (great guy, adjunct), instead of Dr. Zamoyta. I don't recall who else I had for theology 10 and 20 (old and new testament). I do know that the philosophy with Dr. DeMaio (known as D plus Demaio) and Father Maitczak (or something like that, turns out he was a communist, which was a big deal back then) were rough courses.

Sorry to revive an older thread...I'm catching up.

The only "F" I got at SJU was " The Theology of Marriage" in the second semester of my Senior year (almost didn't graduate on time). ughh bad memories.

PS - I've been married 40 years and going strong -- go figure.

I had Professor O'Henry (who later became Professor Henry) for two Philosophy classes and D plus Demaio for the other one (I either got a C or a C+. People said he had mellowed). Several people told me that the Theology of Marriage class was extremely fun..., well evidently I got the wrong professor because it definitely wasn't any fun and he (I don't recall his name) was horrible.

Been married for 20 years, so I guess I learned something.

I had Dr. Michael Henry for Philosophy in 2005 as a sophomore Finance major. His class was one of the top 3 hardest classes I ever took at SJU. Not to mention as a person he seemed to be a cold, miserable, and lonely man. This was the only class in college I had to get expunged from my record. He just seemed to not embody the spirit of the school if your teaching Philosophy to Finance majors have some common sense.

I re-took the class a year later with Dr. Glen Statile and what a difference it was B+ and I learned so much more. He was a fantastic professor. After looked at ratemyprofessor.com like it was the Bible.

When I look back at SJU almost always remeber the good things however when I do think of things that bothered me Dr. Michael Henry is the top of the list. I really can't stand that guy.

Statile is the man. He gave our class a 50 point curve on the first test so everyone would get an A to keep class morale up.