Donald Trump's Acceptance Speech

The parent of the soldier was there to defend the rights of Muslims, not servicemen or their parents. Rights which the opponent wants to take away. That Trumps immature, classless, uninformed response would be forthcoming was certainly predictable but that's on Trump.
 
The man works works for a law firm that has donated big money and has done work for the clintons suprise suprise. I'm sure he's aware that many in that audience called US Solidiers murders at the time. Hes an immigration lawyer another suprise....... I wonder if he protested obamas halt on Iraqi refugees in 2011 for 6 months, yet another thing that is bypassed by everyone.
 
The parent of the soldier was there to defend the rights of Muslims, not servicemen or their parents. Rights which the opponent wants to take away. That Trumps immature, classless, uninformed response would be forthcoming was certainly predictable but that's on Trump.
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I wonder what his reaction would have been had his son been ambushed in Benghazi and Clinton was deciding not to send troops because it would show we weren't winning the war against terror.

Agree, Trump took the bait, but the guy is a political shill - Do you think he wrote the speech by himself? No one, not Trump denies that American Muslims have served honorably in the military. But by the same token no one denies we are fighting a radical Islamic enemy - well wait, Obama and Hillary deny that.
 
Exactly who do you think party's ask to speak at their conventions? Provided they are able to get folks besides their own offspring to advocate for their candidacy, of course, they will be political shills. They are there to promote the party and the candidate. I'm trying to figure out where this whole idea that a political party is an unbiased participant in this process is coming from. Dems preferred Hil because she was a lifelong Dem and generated oodles of $$$. Quell surprise. Dems brought in speakers to support their causes and candidacy while making the opponents look bad. I am shocked. Oh yeah the uproar is coming from political neophytes and the GOP folks who can't believe their own party got themselves stuck with this candidate.
 
The parent of the soldier was there to defend the rights of Muslims, not servicemen or their parents. Rights which the opponent wants to take away. That Trumps immature, classless, uninformed response would be forthcoming was certainly predictable but that's on Trump.
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I wonder what his reaction would have been had his son been ambushed in Benghazi and Clinton was deciding not to send troops because it would show we weren't winning the war against terror.

Agree, Trump took the bait, but the guy is a political shill - Do you think he wrote the speech by himself? No one, not Trump denies that American Muslims have served honorably in the military. But by the same token no one denies we are fighting a radical Islamic enemy - well wait, Obama and Hillary deny that.
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Beast, you know that both of these candidates will stoop as low as possible. One used a mother grieving the son she lost in Benghazi while the other used a Muslim father who lost his son to other Muslims. As far as fighting a radical "Islamic" enemy, semantics do not hide the fact that they (ISIS) do not represent Islam in any shape, matter or form but are modern day Muslim pirates who will sack and kill mostly their own Muslims to gain financial and dogmatic power in Muslim lands. They are at war amongst themselves first and foremost and the West secondary. Yes, they recruit psychopaths and sociopaths to harm innocent civilians in the west but that is what cowardly scum do. Their biggest casualties are fellow Muslims. The West created this mess in the middle east by invading Iraq and then supporting an overthrow of Assad in Syria and then removing all boots from the ground as sectarian war began to blossom. Think about it! You have 30-40,000 rag tag terrorists mainly from the the Caucasus Muslim states that have invaded Syria without an Air Force and they are being allowed to plunder fellow Muslims while the West and Russia, with the greatest air power in the world fly token bombing missions. Germany, France and England provide token military support and Turkey, the biggest military power in that region, rather fight the Kurds. If all these western military powers cannot fight and destroy a Uconn Rentschler Field crowd of low life terrorists waiting to be annihilated, then there is a lot more to worry about than the semantics you worry about. ;)
 
Exactly who do you think party's ask to speak at their conventions? Provided they are able to get folks besides their own offspring to advocate for their candidacy, of course, they will be political shills. They are there to promote the party and the candidate. I'm trying to figure out where this whole idea that a political party is an unbiased participant in this process is coming from. Dems preferred Hil because she was a lifelong Dem and generated oodles of $$$. Quell surprise. Dems brought in speakers to support their causes and candidacy while making the opponents look bad. I am shocked. Oh yeah the uproar is coming from political neophytes and the GOP folks who can't believe their own party got themselves stuck with this candidate.
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Actually, party operatives are upset. The electorate selected Trump, largely because of a vastly expanded dissatisfaction with the direction our country has taken. As such, he is a manifestation of the divisiveness that was not only caused by Obama, but was strategically caused. He drove a wedge so deep that it allowed a guy like Trump to emerge to represent the other side - the side that wants our border controlled, that wants law and order, that wants our military might to crush ISIS, the side that doesn't want to be lectured every time a radical Islamic terrorist guns down 1 horde of people that we are anti Muslim and that Christians did far worse, telling us the economy is great even as 50 year olds lose their jobs and can't find work or new college grads are underemployed. If there was no Obama, Trump would be focused on more golf courses right now.
 
Of course they're upset. They're also incompetent which is the real reason why Trump got the nomination.
 
I probably share the view of many, when I say I don't like either candidate. That said, it is amazing how bias the media is, always making Trump look bad and ignoring Clinton. On the other hand ,Trumps mouth is too big , and he is easy to bait.
 
I probably share the view of many, when I say I don't like either candidate. That said, it is amazing how bias the media is, always making Trump look bad and ignoring Clinton. On the other hand ,Trumps mouth is too big , and he is easy to bait.
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Totally agree with that and I'm one of the ones that was saying a long time ago the media wasn't that biased ( mainly because GWB was the worst president or at least top 2 worst in our history and deserved every bit of negative press ). The problem is ( and I'm still voting for him ) but Trump needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes and stop saying assinine things.

More wkiileak emails can't come out sooner for me just so he stops saying idiotic things and bring the focus back to Hillary
 
I probably share the view of many, when I say I don't like either candidate. That said, it is amazing how bias the media is, always making Trump look bad and ignoring Clinton. On the other hand ,Trumps mouth is too big , and he is easy to bait.
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Totally agree with that and I'm one of the ones that was saying a long time ago the media wasn't that biased ( mainly because GWB was the worst president or at least top 2 worst in our history and deserved every bit of negative press ). The problem is ( and I'm still voting for him ) but Trump needs to keep his mouth shut sometimes and stop saying assinine things.

More wkiileak emails can't come out sooner for me just so he stops saying idiotic things and bring the focus back to Hillary
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Guess you're too young to remember the peanut farmer. ;) :)
 
I'm not a Clinton fan. But let me say that Trump will exacerbate the dissonance and fissures evident in the USA today and damage the economy greatly. Trump would be a disaster for this country.
Moody's (that radical commie organ) recently surmised that Trump's proposals would, depending on how many were enacted (and he could do more than a few by Executive Order) would tangibly impair the economy in his 'first' term.
The media has enabled Trump's rise--not crimped it. How else did he trample over 15 rivals for the nomination? Few of his outrageous statements are challenged by the Broadcast Media or the Press or Talk Radio. The media report his crude insults, his outright lies, and his demagogic comments as 'news' or allow him a free lunch in pablum interviews.
Meanwhile, just about every Clinton 'tick' is reported and commented on and Hillary's self-entitled' wooden responses add to the 'noise'.
Told you. I'm not a Clinton fan. But, brace yourself, Hillary Clinton is well-qualified for the Office. Trump's 'qualifications' are a bad joke. Trump is the most unqualified Presidential nominee of any major US political party in at least a Century. I'm waiting (and I expect to have a long wait) for that moment when the media and 'we' wake up, blink, point at him and shout: "the emperor has no clothes!"
In contrast, Clinton--as pock-marked as she may be--would manage through the minefield, not blow up the country or the world, initiate a more aggressive and badly-needed infrastructure program that would grow the economy and set it on the road where the basic principle of democracy can be re-established: that of the right to vote.
Trump would be hydrochloric acid on an open wound.
Telling ya...
 
I'm waiting (and I expect to have a long wait) for that moment when the media and 'we' wake up, blink, point at him and shout: "the emperor has no clothes!"

Are you serious? The NY Times is now functioning as a flat-out PR unit of the Hilary campaign. They don't even attempt to be balanced in their coverage. CNN and MSNBC are the TV equivalents.
 
You're mistaken. CNN enabled Trump's candidacy. The media are corporate-owned. They 'report' controversy to push sales and ad dollar rates.
The NYT tracked every syllable of the slanted House Committee 'hearings' on the Benghazi incident wasting millions of dollars in an admitted (by Gowdy and McCarthy) 'witch hunt' on Clinton. (BTW we lacked sufficient embassy security at Benghazi and elsewhere because Republicans voted down necessary security funding to our embassies worldwide in 2010. 'That' wasn't widely reported. The 'hearings' were.)
Recently, the NYT has focused on Trump's insensitive attacks on the parents of the slain Captain--wow!--what 'standards'!
The media shrugged on the Ruskie hack job of DNC emails. 'Verified' btw by our intelligence agencies. God forbid, if the RNC had been hacked--ALL of talk radio, FOX 24/7 and every Republican shill in Congress would trample over themselves in outrage to the nearest camera to vilify the Ruskies trying to influence a Presidential election.
OMG I can hear the rants.
MSNBC is liberal but milquetoast versus FOX's acerbic and vitriolic fusillade of anti-Obama-Clinton-Democratic' never-ending mantra of right-wing orthodoxy.
 
The amazing thing about this thread are the many and varied perspectives of our posters, which range from the ridiculous to the sublime.

Of course, all of my posts are at the sublime end of the spectrum.
 
The amazing thing about this thread are the many and varied perspectives of our posters, which range from the ridiculous to the sublime.

Of course, all of my posts are at the sublime end of the spectrum.
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you should have seen the religion and politics form from 2000 to I guess maybe 2012. It was awesome
 
In contrast, Clinton--as pock-marked as she may be--would manage through the minefield, not blow up the country or the world, initiate a more aggressive and badly-needed infrastructure program that would grow the economy and set it on the road where the basic principle of democracy can be re-established: that of the right to vote.
Trump would be hydrochloric acid on an open wound.
Telling ya...
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Clinton manage the minefield? Working with Obama, she created the minefield of Isis. The Obama administraiton likes to speak about what they inherited. Well, in the middle east they inherited an Iraq that due to a Bush ordered surge - that both Clinton and Obama voted down and criticized, had secured 18 of 22 provinces. They "drew a red line" for Assad not to cross, and when he did just that, did nothing. Clinton and Obama supported the rebels overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya, and ISIS moved in to establish a stronghold. They announced a pullout from Iraw and bungled an orderly security transfer to Iraqi forces after they inherited a newly minted democracy there. Iraq is now a mess. We won't even speak about Benghazi, because never before in US military history did a President not send troops to aid an embassy under siege simply not to create a political mess while fighting for his re-election. You can go on and on.

Hillary's economic plan is to increase spending and increase taxes. Benjamin Franklin once said that no nation cannot tax itself into prosperity. The debt is staggering, but liberals are only concerned about the debt service on the deficit. When inflationary times return, the fed government will be unable to pay the debt and our economy will collapse.


The left likes to quote Thomas Jefferson, but ignores this quote:

“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
― Thomas Jefferson

Here is another:

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half of the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson


The left's idea of expanding government entitlements, like medicaid and weffare, even for those who are able bodied and have never worked, and for those who are here illegally, falls into that category. The left ignores existing immigration laws and favors open borders, all to expand the democratic voting tent. Unbelievably, there are states that allow illegal immigrant non-citizens to vote. All unconstitutional, but with a supreme court about to tilt to the left, all bets are off in enforcing the Constitution.

To top it off, Hillary Clinton has led a life of corruption. I love her position now on outsourcing jobs and manufacturing, criticizing Donald Trump clothing made in China. Well, if she had to remove every foreign made article of clothing she wears, including her $15,000 designer pant suits that hide her widened waistline (even multiple plastics surgeries cannot hide that), she'd be disgustingly naked. Not to mention that in her $275,000 paid speech in India in 2008, she supported outsourcing of jobs there.

I don't desire a Trump Presidency, but I will vote for him 1000 times before I cast a vote for Hillary.
 
What amazes me most is that "the most qualified person ever to run for President" has struggled so badly against an obscure 74 year old socialist and a bombastic, narcissistic, thin-skinned candidate who has the depth of a tweet. What does this say about our candidates?
 
In contrast, Clinton--as pock-marked as she may be--would manage through the minefield, not blow up the country or the world, initiate a more aggressive and badly-needed infrastructure program that would grow the economy and set it on the road where the basic principle of democracy can be re-established: that of the right to vote.
Trump would be hydrochloric acid on an open wound.
Telling ya...
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Clinton manage the minefield? Working with Obama, she created the minefield of Isis. The Obama administraiton likes to speak about what they inherited. Well, in the middle east they inherited an Iraq that due to a Bush ordered surge - that both Clinton and Obama voted down and criticized, had secured 18 of 22 provinces. They "drew a red line" for Assad not to cross, and when he did just that, did nothing. Clinton and Obama supported the rebels overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya, and ISIS moved in to establish a stronghold. They announced a pullout from Iraw and bungled an orderly security transfer to Iraqi forces after they inherited a newly minted democracy there. Iraq is now a mess. We won't even speak about Benghazi, because never before in US military history did a President not send troops to aid an embassy under siege simply not to create a political mess while fighting for his re-election. You can go on and on.

Hillary's economic plan is to increase spending and increase taxes. Benjamin Franklin once said that no nation cannot tax itself into prosperity. The debt is staggering, but liberals are only concerned about the debt service on the deficit. When inflationary times return, the fed government will be unable to pay the debt and our economy will collapse.


The left likes to quote Thomas Jefferson, but ignores this quote:

“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
― Thomas Jefferson

Here is another:

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half of the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson


The left's idea of expanding government entitlements, like medicaid and weffare, even for those who are able bodied and have never worked, and for those who are here illegally, falls into that category. The left ignores existing immigration laws and favors open borders, all to expand the democratic voting tent. Unbelievably, there are states that allow illegal immigrant non-citizens to vote. All unconstitutional, but with a supreme court about to tilt to the left, all bets are off in enforcing the Constitution.

To top it off, Hillary Clinton has led a life of corruption. I love her position now on outsourcing jobs and manufacturing, criticizing Donald Trump clothing made in China. Well, if she had to remove every foreign made article of clothing she wears, including her $15,000 designer pant suits that hide her widened waistline (even multiple plastics surgeries cannot hide that), she'd be disgustingly naked. Not to mention that in her $275,000 paid speech in India in 2008, she supported outsourcing of jobs there.

I don't desire a Trump Presidency, but I will vote for him 1000 times before I cast a vote for Hillary.
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So, you don't desire a Trump Presidency, but will vote for him 1000 times before you cast a vote for Hillary. :blush: :whistle:
If you are trying to prove that two wrongs can make a right,
then all I've got to say is
God didn't make little green apples
And it don't snow in Minneapolis when the winter comes
And there's no such thing as make-believe
Puppy dogs, autumn leaves 'n' BB guns...

.......and if you would rather be sucked into a big black political hole with the rest of the Trump aficionados then I recommend:


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In contrast, Clinton--as pock-marked as she may be--would manage through the minefield, not blow up the country or the world, initiate a more aggressive and badly-needed infrastructure program that would grow the economy and set it on the road where the basic principle of democracy can be re-established: that of the right to vote.
Trump would be hydrochloric acid on an open wound.
Telling ya...
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Clinton manage the minefield? Working with Obama, she created the minefield of Isis. The Obama administraiton likes to speak about what they inherited. Well, in the middle east they inherited an Iraq that due to a Bush ordered surge - that both Clinton and Obama voted down and criticized, had secured 18 of 22 provinces. They "drew a red line" for Assad not to cross, and when he did just that, did nothing. Clinton and Obama supported the rebels overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya, and ISIS moved in to establish a stronghold. They announced a pullout from Iraw and bungled an orderly security transfer to Iraqi forces after they inherited a newly minted democracy there. Iraq is now a mess. We won't even speak about Benghazi, because never before in US military history did a President not send troops to aid an embassy under siege simply not to create a political mess while fighting for his re-election. You can go on and on.

Hillary's economic plan is to increase spending and increase taxes. Benjamin Franklin once said that no nation cannot tax itself into prosperity. The debt is staggering, but liberals are only concerned about the debt service on the deficit. When inflationary times return, the fed government will be unable to pay the debt and our economy will collapse.


The left likes to quote Thomas Jefferson, but ignores this quote:

“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
― Thomas Jefferson

Here is another:

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half of the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson


The left's idea of expanding government entitlements, like medicaid and weffare, even for those who are able bodied and have never worked, and for those who are here illegally, falls into that category. The left ignores existing immigration laws and favors open borders, all to expand the democratic voting tent. Unbelievably, there are states that allow illegal immigrant non-citizens to vote. All unconstitutional, but with a supreme court about to tilt to the left, all bets are off in enforcing the Constitution.

To top it off, Hillary Clinton has led a life of corruption. I love her position now on outsourcing jobs and manufacturing, criticizing Donald Trump clothing made in China. Well, if she had to remove every foreign made article of clothing she wears, including her $15,000 designer pant suits that hide her widened waistline (even multiple plastics surgeries cannot hide that), she'd be disgustingly naked. Not to mention that in her $275,000 paid speech in India in 2008, she supported outsourcing of jobs there.

I don't desire a Trump Presidency, but I will vote for him 1000 times before I cast a vote for Hillary.
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So, you don't desire a Trump Presidency, but will vote for him 1000 times before you cast a vote for Hillary. :blush: :whistle:
If you are trying to prove that two wrongs can make a right,
then all I've got to say is
God didn't make little green apples
And it don't snow in Minneapolis when the winter comes
And there's no such thing as make-believe
Puppy dogs, autumn leaves 'n' BB guns...

.......and if you would rather be sucked into a big black political hole with the rest of the Trump aficionados then I recommend:


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I'd start with someone who isn't as fundamentally dishonest as Hillary who has actually accomplished something in their lifetime. Like him or not, he has built a mega sized corporation from the ground up. If you believe the propaganda that the money his father loaned him is any guarantee of that, you have no experience in building a business. Whether he began with $1 million or $5 million, or nothing, it takes tremendous ability to build a corporation. Just ask any athelte who burned through tens of millions of dollars on bad business investments.

Hillary on the other hand, even in public life, has accomplished nothing. Her most ardent supporters are hard pressed to come up with concrete accomplishments as Senator or SOS. Her best accomplishment is lining her pockets on pay for play speeches to parties interested buying influence. She couldn't even go about gaining the Democratic nomination honestly, instead scheming to have party operatives destroying Bernie Sanders run at it.
 
Organizing the electorate around who is most aggrieved is nothing new, but it does not lead to the kind of problem solving needed for the country. One suspects there are public-private partnerships that can reenergize job development and value generation and that there are both Democrats and Republicans who understand this. Unfortunately, none of them have been nominated for President. Other than Cruz and Trump, I suspect any other Republican would win the Presidency in a walk.
 
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